I was just wondering on average how long it is taking people to get through the core curriculum. I won't be applying to schools this year like I had planned, and wondered how many of you are able to stay on track... or have to keep editing the study schedule like I do! Thanks, Lindsey
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I am in the exact same boat as you with all of those factors, but throw a toddler into the mix. The best thing I have done, is changing my schedule to study and focus mostly in the mornings. I get up at 4.00, 5.00 or 6.00 AM depending on what is going on, but that can give me anywhere from 1-3 hours a day in the mornings. Oddly, you will start to enjoy it. (hard to believe I know!!). I get home around 6 and my brain is usually in wind down mode. So I will study for an hour relaxingly and then wind down for bed around 9.00 PM. My best advice is that mornings are your friend - when your brain is at it's strongest and fresh. Then you'll start pushing yourself harder at work if you get tired, and ultimately get more energy overall (I've noticed that with myself).
Definitely do the core curriculum first. I am 85% through it, and just now doing the practice exams. after about 10, if I am still doing crap - then I will revisit the CC. Basically, you don't want to blow through exams if you don't have a clue what is going on. I just NOW feel comfortable taking them.
Above all, time management. On the two hour car ride home, I listen to answers to questions I've gotten wrong or podcasts. sometimes you just need a break though, so music or calling home. You'll do great - just make efficient use of your time. Good Luck!
Go to bed super early starting at least 3 weeks before the exam. We're talking 9.00 PM latest. Your brain and body are going to fight it for at least a week, but start getting up at 5.30 or 6.00 am. if you need something to do that early, study. That is what I did to adopt to my morning study schedule. You won't like it, but it's for your future. good luck!
Also, some schools will take scores up until June!
I also have your same certifications (and the 24). I think Catholic has a securities law program that would fit you if you are wanting to stay in the investments/financial world. Check them out - it may be right up your alley. But all schools in DC are private, and therefore not cheap.
you DEFINITELY have a chance, it just depends on the school. My gut says look below the top 100. If you just need the paper and don't care about the school you will be able to find one. Schools off the top of my head that would be ok-ish with that score are Regents in Virginia Beach, MSU in Michigan (don't quote me on that one), possibly Catholic in DC, University of DC. I am going off of your GPA and work experience. Oklahoma City University (my state) - I think that is an OK score for them too. Granted, I did not confirm these schools when writing this. I just have spent a lot of time looking at everything and every where. (Regents because of location by the beach!!)
20 hours a week sounds like 1 practice test and BR (about 12 hours in my opinion) and some studying per week. You will want to get through the core curriculum and take a minimum of 6 practice tests (per my reading and listening to the CC from JY). I am aiming for the February exam too. I am 35% into redoing the core curriculum and going to take the 6-7 exams. I would save 1/2 of January and all of February for practice exams, and do as much core curriculum as you possibly can right now. The core curriculum basically says you need time for the information to really saturate, so you will need to be very disciplined (phone off, no distractions, etc). I think it is possible to get that score, but you need to cut everything else out aside from work and school (speaking from experience as I am doing this now too). I also am not allowing myself to purchase the exam until I know exactly where I am at on the exam registration deadline (January 7th). I've teased myself before by buying the exam and then having to cancel it because I just wasn't ready and it's such an important exam. Good luck!!
Change it. If the school is important you need to write about exactly what they are asking. Or at least go over it and personalize it to the school. Good luck!
If you are going to go, one of your best options (that I myself would do) would be to pay the interest that accrues every month on your loan with your savings. See how far you can get. They way, the interest won't keep accruing, and you will be stuck with the loan amount, rather than compounded interest on top of the loan (this is an offensive way of tackling it). I haven't done this part yet - so I cannot tell you off the top of my head, but look for a student loan amortization calculator. Add in your information or a guess. if you need to guess on the loan percentage put 3.00%. the best thing to you is to be aware of all avenues. if you can pay that interest you can save up to 50-100K of interest over the life of the loan (that figure is 100% a guess) You still want to go to law school, and NYU will pay for itself in the end, but if you can keep that debt down to the principal balance you will thank yourself 1000x over in the long run.
I have about the same as you, slightly more in the 401K. you want to let that grow and hopefully never touch it (not to mention it will be 40K minus taxes owed and the 10% early withdrawal penalty).
My sister paid off her house in 7 years by being super aggressive and budgeting everything to a penny. that is how I am looking at my loans. you are stressed now, which is a good sign. you won't waste extra loan money. Good luck!
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Hi Lindsey - I'm not sure of the answer to your first question. I would suggest contacting student services, maybe they can delete them all for you.
As to your second question - you are 100% about not taking PTs unless you fully understand the CC. I highly encourage you to finish the CC and then start taking PTs. It would be a waste of a PT if you start before you finish.
Re taking the LSAT: You write that you are not sure whether you should take it but ultimately go back to it. I suspect that this is the reason why you don't finish the CC and have had to restart twice. First, why do you want to be a lawyer? Is it a long time dream, is it because it sounds cools, is it because it would impress others? What is the reason for going to law school? I ask because the LSAT is a huge commitment for the majority of people. Yeah, there are those that can whip out a 170 in a few months but I do believe that the majority of us need to spend a significant amount of time studying and dedicating themselves to the test. I think because you are not dedicated to the test you don't finish the CC and have had to restart.
Second: what about the LSAT is scaring you? Is it the length of time to study for the CC? Is it the length of the CC? Is it the law school cost? I think knowing these answers will help us to guide you better in your decision making.
I strongly encourage you to figure out why you want to go to law school and what you want to get out of it. Once you commit yourself to the LSAT then committing to the CC is the next step.
Thank you for this! It’s very helpful. I think you are right. I am stuck in a job that I like, but cannot imagine retiring in. From what I’ve studied in undergrad (international studies), the lsat seems like the next logical step. I’ve gone back and forth considering going to law school since 2007, then actively bought 7Sage almost two years ago. I like the idea of law school and being an attorney. I’ve talked about venturing into space law or immigration law. I left a masters program half way through after realizing it was not for me (masters in international relations and diplomacy), so the fear is from realizing this is the last shot for going back to graduate school. I also have a full time job, so I will study great for a week, and then lay off if work is too much. So I’m looking for that balance. Thanks for your advice. Just reading what you wrote already brought some insights that I needed to hear.
Lindsey
@ Hey there! I actually paid for it too, and I have been on the fence back and forth on whether to even take it. I get test anxiety too at times, so I decided I am going to show up and take it, well aware that I will be scoring in the low 150's. That way, I've at least gone through the process once, and I feel comfortable enough explaining it on an addendum that "hey, I get anxiety, so I wanted to be sure and take it once just to get familiar with the process". That, and since we are likely older candidate's - I think the admissions committees will be well rounded about it.
I also just purchased the April exam. I feel like having a deadline is pushing me in the right direction, esp. because I do not plan on blowing through another $200 !! It used to be $150 when I registered for it.
Just curious, what is your first language? That is awesome that you are doing this ESL. My hat is off to you for sure, because I am not sure I could even do that! I've thought about the Economist too, but decided to just put all of my effort into 7sage. Blind reviewing takes me DAYS. D.A.Y.S. :D
Hey Everyone!
Two questions:
1.) Is there a way to erase all of my notes without going in to each one and deleting them? I am wanting to start from scratch.
2.) Have you ever just restarted the core curriculum from scratch? I am 24% into it, the furthest I have gotten to date. I've also restarted it 2 times. I am terrified of going to the practice exams without FULLY completely understanding the core curriculum. I've also been back and forth on whether to take the LSAT, but I keep coming back to it because I think I ultimately want to do it but just get scared.
All advice is welcome and appreciated.
Thanks!
Lindsey
yay!!! I think you mean "there" not "true" (last sentence) - So awesome!!! Thanks!!! I need to study the LSAT first, but I'm very very tempted!)))
Hi 7Sagers!
I am going for the September LSAT, so for me it's crunch time. I am wondering how everyone gets into "the zone". I am planning on deactivating FB / instagram, removing apps from my phone, and basically anything else that poses as a distraction during my weak moments. I was just wondering what everyone else does in hopes of gleaning some positive transfer!! :)
Any and all advice welcome for focusing & staying on track.
Thanks!!
Lindsey
@ thanks!! That was very helpful. I love the idea of going to Panera, though I am not quite there yet. I have cancelled 3 LSATs due to various reasons.I agree on not scheduling until you are ready, esp. now because the exams have increased to $200!
Thanks again for the great comment.
Lindsey
@ you are awesome! thanks for that. I feel like I literally just learned how to read after you tubing active reading!! Are you in law school now? If so, can I ask which one? I remember reading your posts a long time ago before I took a one year hiatus. I'll be on the calls this weekend. Thanks again!!
I feel like the first 45-50% is super time consuming. that's the part you just have to show up and push through. sometime's it takes way longer than the prescribed time. Once you get PAST the logical reasoning questions, the games are kind of fun and the % goes a lot faster.
I spend anywhere from 30 min. per day to 2 hours. on a weekend day i can get anywhere from 2 hours - 6 hours in. but that TAKES about 8-10 hours.
good luck!
Funny you should say that! I am doing the same thing. I am quickly going over CC for the next month, and then my plan is to take a PT, and then BR by using the Loophole strategy. I am also rereading LH on the side at the same time. So, basically, I will be doing the PT online here, and then printing out a copy and doing the Loophole strategy with pen and paper. It will be different than the typical BR, but I want to see how it goes for the first few prep tests.
Good luck!!
neither nor = not this and not that, so yes. it essentially means "not both".
35-36.
I've been thinking about since I was 23 but was too afraid to cough up the $$ or get loans.
Washington DC (my area) has LOTS of working adults doing law for a second career.
I'm a little nervous about starting at my age (and with a toddler!!), but not enough to not do it.
When will the next PT review be after this one? I am finally (nearly) done with the CC and ready to join these!! Thanks!)))
Thank you @ - that is very very helpful. Good luck to you too!! Thank you @!
This is great, thank you @.Cinco
Hey Everyone,
I'm nearly finished with the core curriculum. I started my initial PT in 2017 and I think it was 141(ish). My PT's now are low 150's. I've taken 4. Granted, I have a toddler, so after testing a section I will spend about 10 min to make sure he is set up and doing well with his activities (so it may not be a completely true score).
My question is, how do you know you are ready to move past the CC and into the PT's? Do you have any indicators that I can go by? I have been on 7sage 3 years. The first year I went through it, then had a year off due to having a baby, and then have spent the past 8 months on the CC. Anyway from 30 minutes to 2-3 hours per day.
I am wondering if I need to go back through it, or keep pushing through PT's and just working with the blind review.
Thanks!! And thank you for taking the time to read this!
Lindsey
Sorry - I should have elaborated. I think you definitely can do it if you have the focus and motivation. I chose sleep over everything. :D I can study a lot easier now. Once you get a rhythm down, it gets easier and you get a good routine down.
You know what! That WAS my goal. Until I had the baby - which was my first. The being up every 2-3 hours constantly completely altered my plans. Not only did that not happen, it took the entire 6 weeks to get back to normal again. The 6 weeks flew by so fast. I also wasn't the most motivated person on the planet at that point, so you have a much stronger chance of focusing. Good luck!!
Awesome! I cannot attend the mid December ones (out of town), are you offering them later in December? I would love to hop onto these. Aiming for the February exam.
@ @ I am so sorry for my late reply! I don't get these notifications (checking that now).. I had come across a book in this discussion forum a while ago, called the loophole in Logical reasoning by Ellen Cassidy. I thought "what the heck" and got it. I've also gone through this core curriculum, with the same feeling of geez, I need to to this again to retain it all. I am on chapter 8 of that book, about a month in, and let me tell you - it really makes you feel you are in the drivers seat and in control.. but I would NOT have felt like that having not gone through the 7sage core curriculum first. My game plan is to go through this book and then through my 7sage notes on the CC and then to go back to the prep tests one by one on here. I think these two things together make you feel like, OK.. I've got this. I just wanted to share that in case you get to the "oh rut row, I'm stuck point" because that is where I've been recently.
I am also hoping for 2021 entrance. I am aiming for the August of October exams. Good luck!!!