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Sunday, Nov 29 2015

liviamaas635

LSAT Score Drop

Hi all,

I've been studying since June, and have been scoring fairly consistently into the 170s within the last 3 months. My average is about a 173. Within the last 3 weeks, I've taken LSATs 72, 73, and 74, and I've seen my lowest scores yet (168, 169, and 167, respectively.)

I'm really freaking out about this, and I just can't believe this is a fluke since it's happened over the past 3 tests. My scores on LG for these tests was below average (at least -3) because I thought the games were unusual or tricky. However, I've also seen decreases in my RC (I usually get -2) and LR (I'm getting above -4 now.)

I can't tell if this is burn out, stress, or all of the above, but I need to decide whether I'm taking the test this Saturday. I already postponed taking the October test.

What do you all think?

General · NEW! 7sage Webinar: Reading Comprehension (All levels), "It's Hammer Time"

liviamaas635

Sunday, Oct 25 2015

I didn't hear about this until today, and I'm so bummed! This is an awesome idea. Can't wait to listen to the recording!

LSAT · PT76.S2.Q16 - when surveyed about which party they would like to see

liviamaas635

Monday, Jan 11 2016

Hi @.E.D. - thanks for your feedback! :) Your reasoning actually helped me a lot.

I also figure my prior reasoning is wrong because if a respondent wanted the legislature to be 60% Liberal, then they would want the other 40% to be a different party. In that case, you would have to put that respondent in at least two groups, which would result in an overlap and a whole lot of confusion. There's just too many assumptions in there.

Good luck to you too - we got this!

LSAT · PT76.S2.Q16 - when surveyed about which party they would like to see

liviamaas635

Monday, Jan 11 2016

Anyone? I'd love feedback on this!

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Monday, Jan 11 2016

liviamaas635

PT76.S2.Q16 - when surveyed about which party they would like to see

admin edit: here's the link to the lesson: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-2-question-16/

Hi everyone,

I understand why (C) is correct for this question, yet I picked (E) during my timed PT and I'm still not 100% sure why it's wrong. From the stim, I understood that a group of respondents was split as follows: 40% wanted conservatives, 40% wanted liberals, and 20% wanted moderates. From that info, we don't know precisely what PERCENTAGE of conservatives/liberals/moderates these respondents each want in the legislature: only that they want them. Maybe one respondent that wanted liberals wanted a legislature with 60% liberals, while another wanted it with 100% liberals. Therefore, this evidence only supports a rough estimate.

The conclusion, however, states that each citizen wants a 40/40/20 split in the legislature, which are EXACT PERCENTAGES. Therefore, I thought that (E) applied (going from a rough estimate to an exact/quantified conclusion.)

Thoughts on this are much appreciated!! :)

General · To retake or not to retake...

liviamaas635

Friday, Mar 04 2016

@ - thanks for the advice!

General · Feeling extremely discouraged

liviamaas635

Friday, Mar 04 2016

I'll be the first to say that it's completely normal for your scores to drop in the 70s PTs (not saying that everyone experiences this, but many do, including me.) It's just something to get used to. Definitely take the 70s tests multiple times to get a feel for them - you're not getting worse, the tests are just getting more subtle and, frankly, difficult (see: RC.) Once I took these tests multiple times, I wasn't thrown off by what I saw in the Feb. 2016 exam.

Best of luck :)

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liviamaas635

Friday, Mar 04 2016

My take - I would postpone until the October test. The reason is that, if you were PTing in the low 160s, you could definitely push yourself to get at least a 165. That would put you into at least the Top 20 schools and give you a better shot at $$$ and admissions. BUT, this is going to take time.

Since your diagnostic was a 138, you're probably going to have to adjust your mindset significantly. This is not impossible, but it will take time. I'd definitely recommend the LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim to help you out with that. The 7sage curriculum is also great, since it goes from basic to more complex/advanced understanding.

After a month or so of studying with the Trainer and/or 7sage, see where you're at. If you don't see improvement, I would hire a private tutor. Yes, it's expensive, but you might need that specialized attention to really hone in on your errors and faulty thought processes.

Good luck!

General · To retake or not to retake...

liviamaas635

Friday, Mar 04 2016

@ - Thanks! :D I'm applying this coming cycle and will attend LS in Fall 2017. Thanks for the advice - I'll see if I can gauge my average somehow in a valid way given that I've taken almost all tests.

@ - THANK YOU! It's been a long road of 8 solid months of studying. I'll see if I can take a couple of tests and gauge my average.

General · To retake or not to retake...

liviamaas635

Thursday, Mar 03 2016

That's a good point. I still have old tests that I haven't taken (PT 1-29), yet considering that the newer tests are so different, I'm unsure if there's enough predictive value there. Thanks though!

I found it to be very valuable. Believe it or not, you'll still make mistakes on a PT you originally took last week. Interestingly, I found myself getting questions wrong that I answered correctly the first time, and vice versa! It's definitely a good learning experience, and I 100% recommend it for the recent tests (70-77.)

General · To retake or not to retake...

liviamaas635

Thursday, Mar 03 2016

Hey @'t Get Right! Thanks for the feedback. That sounds like a good plan, yet I'm pretty sure my average would increase since I've taken most of the tests before (PT 30-77) and I'm really familiar with them (I've taken those in the 70s numerous times since they were more difficult for me than earlier tests.) So I'm not sure if an average increase would be a reliable indicator :/

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Thursday, Mar 03 2016

liviamaas635

To retake or not to retake...

Hi everyone!

First off, I'd like to say that I've been on 7Sage since 2014 and really admire and respect this community. You are all extremely dedicated and talented, and you motivate me to work harder, better, and smarter.

That being said, I need some advice: I took the Feb. 2016 LSAT, and scored a 171. My GPA is 3.78, and I'm reaching for the T-14.

I've taken the LSAT once before (June 2014, the dreaded PT 72!) and cancelled, so this was my second admin.

I'm wondering if I should retake it in June, given that my PT average was 173. I know that 171 is a respectable score, yet in terms of scholarship $$$ and the potential to hit an even higher score, I'm wondering if it's worth another go.

I'm hesitant because I know that schools like Columbia, Stanford, and Berkeley may not favor a third take (unless you scored way below target on the first two and/or cancelled, etc.)

What do you all think? I welcome any and all advice. Thanks =)

General · 7sage Love: My 18 point score increase story

liviamaas635

Thursday, Mar 03 2016

CONGRATS, you're incredible!

LSAT · PT77.S4.Q20 - selena claims to have psychic powers

liviamaas635

Wednesday, Feb 03 2016

I got stuck on this question too! :( I've watched JY's explanation and I'm still stuck - why wouldn't (A) be the correct answer here? I chose (A) because I thought that, if someone else were already shown to have psychic powers, then we wouldn't need to rely on Selena to determine whether psychic powers were possible. I guess that this is a necessary assumption?