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recognizing syllogism patterns in LR. I highly recommend getting a logic book (something a college class in logic would use, not something trivial without substance), you'll have lots of lightbulb moments
LR will suddenly jump out as more cookie cutter in its forms
I don't think they're allowed to talk about game types ...
http://northwestern.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants?order=desc&sort=scholarship might give you an idea ... but remember, we're in a weird numbers time.
http://texas.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants?order=desc&sort=lsat
Take note of high LSAT scores (with not-crap GPAs), who seem to also be applying to the 30+ ranked schools.
@melisulusel212 thanks for the reply! Good luck in 2L
scores are out, log into your account
Did you read any prep books before you started 1L (were they helpful?)? I'm starting 1L this fall and I've been reading the E&Es to try to learn terms in advance ... . Did you use LEEWS?
Thank you so much for sharing this, it is so insightful
@98919 my internet went out briefly also in the first break between sections - - that temporarily disconnected notice gave me a shock. So, I don't think that's the issue, esp since you didn't report it and it didn't affect your test. It's possible you had something show up from your room scan, but that also seems unlikely based on your description. I'm hopeful for you that it is your score, and woohoo if that IS the true cause of the hold. The score hold has come up in discussions before - - they've done it to others per forum posts, like above just mentioned.
They might be reviewing your test because of a large score increase.
It helps to do a drill set style where you 1) read the stimulus, then 2) try to reiterate it. Do a run-through where you specifically target modifier words - look for them and take notice of them. Then try to reiterate that stimulus after that comb through. THEN work to answer the question. For the tests in the 80s, as their answers became more complex than earlier tests, do the same slow comb through with the answer choices. Target modifier words.
as you do this over-and-over, and obviously you can't do this at the start in 1-1/2 minutes, you'll start to spot those words instantly and you'll remember what's going on in the stimulus without having to reiterate it.
I recommend working this on weakening, strengthening, and flaw questions before moving into other question types.
I've been reading Plucknett's A Concise History of the Common Law and I just finished Simon Schama's 3-book set of the history of Britain - which ironically as I'm now reading Kurtz's Introduction to the Law of Real Property is SO HELPFUL. There was a comment sometime back recommending these (or I think these). When certain events are mentioned in the property law book, I have an instant reference from the British history books. The Schama books have an easier writing style compared to the Common Law book, which is more appropriately 'dense.' I've been using these as my 'fun' evening reads, daytime now full of prepbook reading. I love history books, and ironically some of the topics have been helpful for RC passage topics ... . Reading on Roman law might also be helpful/relevant and 'fun' esp for lovers of history
what font did you use? some fonts at 12 pt are smaller than other fonts at 11 pt. Times New Roman (even though it looks awful) is really compact compared to some of the sanserif fonts. also: you can 'condense' your font to squish it a little more (try 0.15 or max 0.25), you might just save the space you need doing that - with a 12 pt font.
There are ways to 'fudge' the fonts without breaking the rule. ... I love Helvetica, but prefer to condense it, it's a font that is mammoth compared to TNR also (check out Helvetica at 11pt compared to TNR at 12pt), so maybe do some print-out compares (hold them up to a window). I wouldn't start deleting parts of your essay yet until you've tested out options ... Try even to squish your margins a little: if you have them at 1-inch, try 0.98 or 0.95 max. It won't be noticeable to the eye and can help make words that bumped the line down, instead fit.
If you DO switch to a different font, make sure you use it throughout your application material. Then it looks like you're more graphically minded v. trying to fog the boundaries.
highlight your text, right-click, 'font'
advanced, spacing - pull down to condense, change the number from 1pt to 0.15-0.25. 0.3 and up are noticeable to the eye. Personally, I don't like to go over 0.2, but sometimes it's an emergency ;)
if you ever use InDesign, you can actually mess about with your font size, take it from 12 pt to 11.75 pt. I think in word you can do 11.5 pt, but that it only works in 0.5 increments.
No, you'll have no idea how you performed other than overall score - no breakdown
I use plain printer paper and fold it in half - it makes it more manageable on the desk. I usually fit two games per side, needing only one sheet. .. but I still use a no.2 as i was replicating the old test-day conditions; never imagined I'd ever acclimate back to using pencils!
Totally agree about paper thickness - esp if for some reason one needs to erase v. cross out. I used lined paper in JAN, but I went back to printer paper for JUN. If you go for lines, you might prefer that your lines are not that dark ... that was my problem with the paper I was using.
I'm really worried my argument may have committed a reasoning flaw (I don't remember how I worded it and at the time , I was aware of dancing around this flaw, so as NOT to commit it .. but I'm worried about it!). I could go back and read the PDF copy, but I don't see why - it was approved a few hours after I took it on Sunday and if it reads poorly and flawed, I don't want to be reminded .. Part of me thinks it was approved so quickly to lock in the goof - - - I'm so worried that I look like an absolute moron
I didn't have to redo the writing, since I had a JAN writing sample, but I did 'just in case' they were stored for only up to 6 months (don't think this is the case), and because I have since been reading prep books and felt that I was more familiar with composing a more adequate argument. I'm kicking myself for not having read yet Delaney's Exam book, I think it would have helped more than his Legal Reasoning book that I have finished. gah to our worries!
@abdusnajmi7818 THANK YOU so much for posting this game. I just did the PT75 set (and took the test in Jan) and that last game reminded me of the newspaper game. Rocking this game section also gave me a lot more confidence in my LG score heading into my test for tomorrow.
Do you have a copy of the LSAT Trainer? For me with those question types (anecdotal), reading that section (the subjective question types) and then practicing some drill-set-style questions VERY SLOWLY at first helped immensely with these subjective question types. Especially to work slowly with the stimulus to: 1) identify that conclusion, 2) identify the premise(s); 3) pinpoint the flaw-gap that the author makes in their statement that 'conclusion because premise.' [Assuming that two characteristics are analogous, ... think of the four big loophole types from the Loophole book]. Pinpointing the flaws in the strengthen and weakening questions really sped up my 'flaw spotting.' Which helped on the flaw questions also. MSS is objective, so I might push that to the last spot to improve, working on the question types that are MOST likely to occur in the test on Sunday. Good luck! My test is also on Sunday, I'll be wishing you the best :). To be honest, I no longer read the question stem first, because NOT doing so forces me to identify the conclusion and break down the stimulus. (again anecdotal)
same here. Every other day; I saved the last ones also, except I did M20 a few weeks ago, have 87, 88, 89. And on review days doing timed LR sections from repeat tests. I figure this is also an endurance build for 1L's workload! Granted, at this point, not needing to review many questions, and the half-day twiddling my thumbs made me antsy - hence the extra Qs. I make sure to stop by 5pm and then relax on something mindless with a glass of wine.
I used GRE vocabulary resources when I first started studying and I feel that they really helped, I see a lot of the words in RC .. and LR.
I scanned the pages, digitized them, and turned that into audio files to listen to
And stay away from people that could get you sick! Do what you can to prevent and strengthen your immune system - keep your mind sharp and able to focus!
@mrinaliniv92227 if you're able to pick up your laptop and revolve it around the room and under your desk, that works (I unplugged mine, did this, and then plugged everything back in; I think I also unplugged the usb mouse but left the internet plugged in). It would be easier with an external webcam. I didn't like having to twist the laptop so much to show under the desk, but it worked w/o causing harm.
@x1amp989865 it worked, thx!
Anyone else not seeing any time slots ... where it says "It appears the time you selected is not available. Please search again."
I can see the dates, it just doesn't show any time slots. Strange to see Monday available instead of just Sat, Sun & Tues. (Sat through Tues showing) I'll keep checking (I want to stay focused on taking a PT for the rest of the day), just curious if anyone else just noticed this. ?
resolved whew!!!! Good luck every one
@claremont525 I have the login info from the January test. I signed up really close to the last day, so I'm going to just keep hitting refresh. WOOHOO that you signed up already! And shared the info :smiley:
I spent all of yesterday trying to check my system and had to reset my laptop - gwar. But, I've passed the checks on chrome and firefox. I can only guess that something I had to install to use the school I'm accepted at's orientation stuff (or the virus program they recommended). I can't wait to sign up and have that 'stress' out of the way. .... to go back to pts!
or maybe LSAC is dumping everything into the system in the order of signup, so later signups will appear is a little bit ???
thanks for the post - i already checked today and I wasn't going to check again until tomorrow. now I know to be on the look out.
@cynthiaabreuca908 look at your school's bookstore recommendation for their logic courses; my school used one by Brooke Moore (Critical Thinking), but it was on critical thinking versus an intro to logic (and I felt like it was written for high schoolers ... ). I like Copi's Intro to Logic, personally. Others that are short are not intensive with logic as much as general grammar bits. Ruggero Aldisert Logic for Lawyers is out-of-print, but libraries might have a copy. It looks at formal logic structures as applied to court opinions. In combination with an 'intro' book, it is helpful and relevant. But the logic course intro books are more in-depth and informative. They're the light-bulb moments.