User Avatar
maizinburly527
Joined
Apr 2025
Subscription
Free
User Avatar
maizinburly527
Thursday, Sep 30 2021

@ said:

Way to kick ass Logician! This was very insightful/helpful. The untimed sections followed by decreasing time increments seems to be the exercise/solution I have been looking for. Thanks again for the insight and best of luck through the application process!

@ said:

This was one of the most insightful conversations I have heard thus far as I am studying and trying to reconfigure my methods. I really connected with @ because I am struggling with the plateaus and getting lost in the path to choose. Thank you!

Glad to hear it helped!!

User Avatar

Wednesday, Aug 28 2019

maizinburly527

Mental Stamina: Overcoming Fatigue

Hello!

Im currently working my way through the CC and have noticed a pattern throughout my studying which i'm assuming is attributed to mental fatigue. From the start of my study day until about the half way point I feel significantly sharp, often not missing a question. From about the half way point towards the end of my day I begin to miss more questions (not because I don't understand a question but rather because I misread a question or don't correctly process the information) and find it harder to focus. I would imagine that this is rather common and is addressed over time? With that being said, does anyone have any suggestions/tips on how to strengthen your mental stamina/endurance?

all feedback is appreciated!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Wednesday, Jul 28 2021

Those fluctuations are completely normal. Each test is not equal, some may play more to your strengths while others, to your weaknesses. On top of it, unless your superhuman, your mental performance on each and every test will also not be equal. Your scores are statistically consistent, so don’t stress. Instead, focus on your execution and strategy as those are things that are completely in your control. Good luck!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Wednesday, Oct 27 2021

Amazing! Congratulations 😊

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Friday, Aug 27 2021

All the arguments in strengthen/weaken questions are invalid arguments. Remember, on the LSAT, you cannot directly attack the premises, you have to accept them as true. If these questions contained valid arguments, you wouldn’t be able to do anything without altering/attacking the premises (which you cannot do 99.9% of the time), because the premises would be forcing the conclusion to follow.

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Sunday, Sep 26 2021

I do want to chime in here and say that while improving memorization can, and i'm sure will, help to a certain extent, RC is not testing rote memorization. It emphasizes and rewards structural understanding, your ability to make reasonable assumptions, how attuned you are to the authors attitude, and drawing inferences. While understanding or memorizing details of the passage may help in this process, it's not addressing the core of what RC is testing. Additionally, I will say, just because this method worked for someone who scored a 180—who outperformed their PT's—does not mean it will work for everyone else, nor can it be attributed as the sole cause of his success; this is reminiscent of a bad LSAT argument.

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Sunday, Sep 26 2021

@ So happy to hear that! and thank you! best of luck in your studying/applications.

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Wednesday, Nov 24 2021

You’re welcome!

User Avatar

Wednesday, Mar 24 2021

maizinburly527

April BR Partner [Closed]

Looking for 1-2 BR partners for the April exam who are scoring in the 170's- preferably who's strongest section is RC. Aiming for maybe 3 to 4 more PT's by then (all in the 80's). BR will consist of a deep dive into each RC passage and any flagged/problematic questions in LR. Im on EST time and am very flexible with time.

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Monday, Nov 22 2021

Amazing, Congratulations!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Monday, Nov 22 2021

Perhaps trying a top-down approach in which we reorganize the structure of the argument from the conclusion down will prove more helpful.

Conclusion (sentence 3): Widespread effort for more restrictive air pollution controls are unlikely.

At this point you should be asking yourself why—why is widespread effort for these controls unlikely?

Support/Premise (sentence 1): people usually only care about the most obvious public health problems. NOTE: this is a direct answer to the conclusion (another way you can tell this is supporting it)

Now, looking solely at what we have so far, there is little to no support for the conclusion, as we have no idea whether air pollution is considered one of the most obvious public health problems or not. So in this case (again, looking only at these two sentences) a necessary assumption is that air pollution is not in fact one of the most obvious public health problems.

example/support for S1 (sentence 2): There is rock solid evidence that ozone (an air pollutant) can be dangerous even in quantities much lower than those permitted by law. this is an example of a public health concern that is not one of the most obvious

yet MOST people are aware that contaminated water presents a MUCH MORE widespread threat. This is an example of a public health concern that is one of the most obvious

so in terms of caring about public health concerns: contaminated water (one of the most obvious health problems) > ozone (not one of the most obvious health problems)

Looking at the answer choices:

B: This accurately describes the role of sentence 1. It is a premise used to support the conclusion that widespread effort for more restrictive air pollution controls are unlikely. Why is widespread effort for these controls unlikely? because people care only about the most obvious health problems, and based on sentence two, we have an example of an air pollutant (which is not one of the most obvious health problems), hence the author concludes widespread effort is unlikely.

C: This answer is descriptively inaccurate. The first sentence is not explaining why there exists awareness of HOW SEVERE the contaminated water problem is. Rather, the second sentence is an example that highlights what is said in the first—people caring only about the most obvious health problems (water contamination) and not others (air pollutants).

Read carefully, sentence two states "most people are currently well aware that contaminated water presents a much more widespread threat to our community (than the air pollutant ozone)." So they're aware of the water contamination health problem. Saying that people usually only notice and care about the most obvious health care problems is not an explanation of why they understand, or are aware, of THE SEVERITY of the water contamination problem. Notice & care /= being aware of/understanding the severity of the issue. You could notice that a car speeds through the neighborhood, and also care about it, yet have no idea how fast its going, or how dangerous it is.

User Avatar

Wednesday, Jul 21 2021

maizinburly527

My journey with the LSAT (146 —> 171)

Well it’s taken about 3 weeks for me to finally sit down and type this post. Now that the time has come I’d like to share my experience with the test and what I’ve learned along the way with the hope that it will help others.

My first thought: It’s weird being done the LSAT. I’m sure an abrupt stop to just about anything would garner this sort of feeling, but yeah, it’s a strange feeling.

I started studying for the LSAT around August/September of 2019 and I really did not anticipate it taking me this long to achieve a score I’d be content with. I remember seeing the lesson in the CC where J.Y says you should give yourself at least one year to maximize your LSAT score. This really blew my mind as at the time all I was acquainted with was the typical “3 month fallacy”. In any case, when I made the decision to fully immerse myself in this test, I made it knowing full well that I could invest all this time and still not end up with the score I sought. In other words, sunk costs would be sunk. I bring this up solely because it’s easy to get caught up with all the success stories we see of people studying for long periods of time and getting their dream score. What you don’t see is those who invest their time and then fall short. This is in no way meant to be discouraging but rather to shine a light on a perhaps overlooked reality. Personally, I was okay with that possibility as I knew I’d regret it even more if I didn’t try.

Side note: even if you don’t ultimately land on the exact score you want, odds are you’ll still make solid improvements if you’re putting in the effort and studying correctly.

As many people have said before me, this test is definitely learnable and you can make significant improvements. So try to find solace in that whenever you’re feeling discouraged, frustrated, or straight up fed up with the test. Something I kept telling myself along the way is that if I can’t endure the process of studying for the LSAT, riding the highs and lows, well then maybe i’m picking the wrong profession. I’m sure there will be mixed opinions about that, and yes, it’s not literal but i’m assuming it holds true to some extent (or so i tell myself). Regardless, I treated the LSAT as something that I had to systematically chip away at, much like learning a new language or instrument. Treating the test like a job and trying to approach my process as an objective observer was a skill I had to acquire.

Approach to studying

I think one of the most beneficial things i did for myself early on was go through the CC slowly and thoroughly. It took me 4-5 months, but I came out with very strong fundamentals, and fundamentals are everything; you can’t build a sturdy house without a good foundation. Once I finished the CC I started working on untimed sections. If you can’t score what you want untimed, I would wager its close to impossible to score it timed. Once I was scoring where I wanted untimed, I began to introduce time and incrementally reduce it.

LG: I foolproofed games non-stop and still could not get to -0 to -1 consistently until I changed my strategy- you don’t know what you don’t know (this is where a fresh set of eyes can be very valuable). LG is in my opinion the most learnable section of the test and is a section that everyone should try to capitalize on.

LR: I think for most people, this section requires rethinking the framework of an argument. most of us are so used to our bad, everyday colloquial arguments that we don’t know how to truly criticize or pick apart an argument. Don’t worry, this test will teach you. Put on your skeptic lens and begin questioning the arguments being thrown at you, 90% if not more of the arguments on the LSAT are BAD ARGUMENTS, they’re just dressed up. Meaning the premises do not support the conclusion, often times its not even close but it just appears that way because the questions are playing on your preconceived notions and/or biases.

RC: This sections was the hardest to improve. once again i’m going to echo what many have said before me: focus on the structure. you don’t have time to look for every detail or reference the passage for every question. The key to avoiding this is looking at the big picture. try your best to construct a cohesive narrative or framework from which to view the passage while you read: what does the author think, what is the point he/she is trying to convey, their attitude/tone? how does he/she go about constructing their argument? how many perspectives are there? you’d be surprised how far a general outline/structure of a passage can guide you.

Study groups/partners

Study groups and partners can be a complete game changer. Others will find holes in your reasoning and help you pinpoint your weaknesses. Don’t be scared to verbalize your reasoning. Everyone is learning and working towards their goal, if someone belittles you or makes you feel dumb... well I feel sorry for them. Leave and keep going until you find the right group/study partner. Personally I found big groups to be less productive. I think 1-3 people is the sweet spot for maximum productivity.

Focus on the process not the results

Instead of focusing on your PT scores (which can become irrelevant to a certain extent come test day) focus on your test taking/studying process. Don’t look for instant gratification by skipping your BR, I cannot stress how important BR is. Make notes of the questions you miss, be relentless. Find your strategy and ingrain it in your mind. Your process and strategy are some of the few things you can control on the LSAT, so take advantage of that and make them a priority.

Find a reprieve from studying

For me this was spending time with my girlfriend, playing music or watching a movie/show. Again, I can’t stress how important this part is. This test will chew you up and spit you back out, so do not let it consume you, ITS A TEST FOR CHRIST SAKE (sorry to any religious people reading). Take AT LEAST one day off per week where you don’t even think about the LSAT. Often times overcoming a plateau can be the result of Rest and Rehab. Again, you don’t know what you don’t know - this sometimes includes being burnt out.

Don’t listen to anyones negative bull**, it’s your life.**

Throughout my studies I had various people, friends and family members, hit me with the “YOU’RE STILL STUDYING??” or the “JUST TAKE IT AND APPLY ALREADY” - Tune it out. This is your journey and everyone’s will be different. don’t worry about the road you take, just focus on your destination. it may take some people 1 month, some 3, some 8, some 15, some 30. fight the urge to compare yourself to others- it will only hurt you in the end.

Lastly, thanks to everyone who helped me along the way, and to J.Y for hating the lawyer life and creating the amazing resource and community that is 7sage.

Now go get yours. Happy studying everyone and good luck!

P.S. if anyone has any questions or wants more specific information, don’t be afraid to ask.

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Monday, Sep 20 2021

Thank you again for having me!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Tuesday, Aug 17 2021

I heard it’s usually a week (possibly up to a few) after orientation.

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Monday, Aug 16 2021

Well the good news is that you definitely don't have to draw out the logic for sufficient assumption questions. However, what you'll notice (especially when you really master conditional logic) is that it's really easy to write it out, and that most SA questions lend themselves really well to this method. This is because -rather than having to do the mental gymnastics of trying to understand everything the argument is throwing at you- you can just slap labels (A or X) on the premises and conclusion and follow repeated and established argument structures (Valid Arguments).

I often find that once people really grasp what it means for something to be sufficient, these questions become A LOT easier. So below is an explanation that I hope will help.

When we think of a sufficient assumption we're thinking of an assumption (unstated premise) that when added to the argument, makes it a valid argument. So what does this mean? Essentially all this means is that when the premise is added to the argument, it forces the conclusion to follow. Typically sufficient assumption answer choices tend to be strongly worded answers, and rightly so as the task at hand is to force the conclusion to follow. So lets look at an example of a sufficient assumption.

Premise: Tom is wearing a green shirt. (lets call this A)

Conclusion: Therefore, Tom will go to the park. (lets call this C)

Is this a good argument? of course not! how can someone reasonably conclude that just because Tom is wearing a green shirt he'll go to the park? So our job when attempting to make this argument valid is to add a premise, that when added to the argument, ensures that tom will go to the park. So here's a sufficient assumption.

SA: Whenever Tom wears a green shirt, he goes to the park. (A --> C)

When we add this assumption to the argument, its suddenly no longer a bad argument (structurally speaking), in fact its an iron-clad argument, in that its VALID.

Premise 1: Whenever Tom wears a green shirt, he goes to the park. (A --> C)

Premise 2: Tom is wearing a green shirt. (A)

Conclusion: Therefore, Tom will go to the park (C)

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Thursday, Sep 16 2021

By using the term minimum, the question is asking you to reduce the number of law firm salaries (of the partners) to the smallest number. we know that every different position in the sequence is a different salary.

For example. can they all make the same salary? if so, then we would have one salary and that would be effectively the smallest number of different salaries. however, we know that one doesn't work because we have multiple individuals earning more/less than others.

So our goal for this question is to see how many partners we can give the same salary (or stack) without violating the rules. As shown in the video, the minimum ends up being 7 different salaries.

My approach to this question would be to see which game pieces (law firm partners) are least restricted in regards to where they can go in the sequencing chain. If a game piece has to be before someone and after someone, I would say its rather restricted. But that also has to be taken in context. As you can see the L - N relationship can go anywhere in the chain after K, and no one has to go after the N. This means they're actually quite fluid and almost act as floaters- to a lesser extent. so these two (L and N) are the two pieces that can be stacked/grouped into the same salaries as two other partners, effectively leaving us with a total of 7 different salaries.

I hope this helped!

User Avatar

Thursday, May 13 2021

maizinburly527

Free Tutoring Opportunity [CLOSED]

Looking to tutor 1-2 people free of cost. The requirements are that you've gone through the CC (thoroughly) and are currently in the PT/Section phase of your studies. Low-income/students with fee waivers will get preference. We'll have a brief call where you can tell me about yourself and your goals to see if we're a good fit.

I've been tutoring casually for a while now, however, I myself am still a student of the LSAT and will be the first person to admit if I don't feel as though I can help or don't understand something. Last 3 PT avg is 174.5/180 BR.

User Avatar

Tuesday, Nov 12 2019

maizinburly527

Total time elapsed not showing??

Is anyone else unable to see the total time elapsed on a LG? Its showing the time per problem but usually there's an option where if you click on one of the timed questions you can see how much time the game setup and all the questions took. #help

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Sunday, Sep 12 2021

There is a slight difference, but I would say it's negligible. So I'd definitely treat them the same. The main point is synonymous with the conclusion; a conclusion is just a claim you are trying to prove via the support from the premises. In other words, it is the main point you are trying to convey in an argument. So yeah, try not to get too hung up on the semantics, as logically, you are being asked to perform the same task.

The function of "not always" serves to deny the truth of a universal claim. In other words, if we said its not always the case that all apples are bananas (A --> B), that would equate to the statement that there exists at least one apple which is not a banana, or A some /B . So to answer your question, not always (or not all) should be interpreted as at least one is not or some are not.

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Sunday, Sep 12 2021

congratulations and great post!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Monday, Oct 11 2021

Amazing stuff!! Congrats @

User Avatar

Tuesday, Feb 11 2020

maizinburly527

LR Error Logsheet

I've got a quick question about keeping a log sheet for the questions i missed. Should I only input the questions I miss after BR? i'm assuming the answer is yes? but if not, please drop some quick wisdom on me, thanks!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Friday, Sep 10 2021

Personally, I don’t think it’s too late. I think it would be reasonable to assume that if you got the consulting package now, you could have everything done come thanksgiving time- which is still considered a solid time to apply.

User Avatar

Monday, Feb 10 2020

maizinburly527

Post cc help

So I just finished my first post CC PT (PT 36) and I’m not really sure where to go from here or how to feel about it. A couple of mistakes I made which I won’t be making again: 1) taking the test in a noisy environment (I actually had to stop and move in the middle of my last section, and well I pretty much hated everyone else in the room during the prior sections- lol). 2) moving too fast- specifically, at a speed which I was unable to digest what I was reading. I managed to get through both the LG and RC sections but for both LR sections I ended up having to guess the last 3-4 questions per section (of which I got a total of 2 correct! Not bad). I scored a 158 on my timed take and a 171 on BR. My section breakdown for my timed take LR:15/26 (-11) RC:18/26 (-8) LR: 19/26 (-7) LG 19/23 (-4). Section breakdown for BR: LR (-5) RC (-5) LG (-0).

So, my question is where do I go from here? I’m still fool-proofing games but I do feel as though I’m at the point (or near it) where I can manage 0 to -1 in games (though that section may suggest otherwise). For LR I feel as though it might be best to just stick to timed sections until I can get to the point where I’m able to finish them in time? I think I have a descent understanding in LR, untimed ill usually go anywhere from 0 to -2 with the occasional -3. My RC is not great, I usually miss a good amount of easy questions. I think that pretty much sums it all up.

All feedback is appreciated, thanks!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Wednesday, Sep 08 2021

@ already pretty much covered everything. So I’ll just add a more general outlook. When doing your written analysis, you want to make sure that you haven’t looked at the correct answer yet (Sorry to be redundant, but you’d be surprised). Your job is to put forth a written explanation as to why you believe the correct answer is correct, and the incorrect ones, incorrect. If you’re just getting started you’re inevitably going to end up in the situation that you described- not knowing whether it is correct/incorrect. However, this is by design the goal of this exercise; to state and train your reasoning- Which means you have to explain it, then rinse, repeat, and learn.

So, once you’ve written out your explanations and realize that your reasoning was faulty, make note of where you went wrong and correct your reasoning accordingly. @ has offered up a great list of the questions you should be asking yourself. Naturally when you’re starting, you’re likely not going to have the correct reasoning- but everyone has an opinion, so state yours and try to make it as convincing as possible. Try to stay away from lax explanations like “irrelevant” “it makes no sense” etc.

this process is a pain in the ass but if done correctly, you will reap the rewards.

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Sunday, Aug 08 2021

You can also check out the comments section. A lot of people have given in depth explanations to most questions out there, so make sure to utilize that resource too!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Thursday, Oct 07 2021

@ good stuff Jon!!

User Avatar

Friday, Mar 06 2020

maizinburly527

Customizable Timer for Problem sets

I was thinking that having a customizable timer for problem sets would add tremendous value, specifically for doing timed LR sections. As it stands you can't take a 35 minute timed LR section if you build your own problem set (unless there's some way that i'm not privy to), which would be really beneficial. Is this a possibility/consideration for future modifications? @studentservice

User Avatar

Monday, Aug 05 2019

maizinburly527

Best Tablet For Digital Prep #Help

Hey everyone! rather than buying a $500 surface pro tablet to take PT's on, i've been searching for a cheaper, effective alternative. Preferably a tablet in the $100-$200 range that is compatible with google chrome (for 7sage of course) and meets the same screen specifications (10 Inches). If anyone has found a substitute or has any suggestions, please don't be shy!

thanks!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Sunday, Jun 05 2022

Congrats Josh! Hope all is well with you.

User Avatar

Wednesday, Feb 03 2021

maizinburly527

For those disappointed with their scores

This morning I've been seeing a lot of disappointment posts- a lot more than usual after scores are released. In any case, I just wanted to make a brief post that will hopefully expedite the grieving process and get you back on the horse ASAP. Also, full disclosure, I also received an official score that was significantly lower than my avg PT back in October, so I can fully relate.

First and foremost I want to preface this just by saying that everyone studying for this test and grappling with the mentally taxing beast that is the LSAT deserves recognition, so give yourself a round of applause. Most of us out here do not fall into the rare group of people that have a natural (or nurtured) aptitude for this test and as a result have to work hard to get our scores up (not to say the others don't, it's all relative). In any case, seeing a lower score after all that hard work can feel, as many have put it today, "devastating". But as they say in theatre "the show must go on" (in case you are wondering, no, i'm not a theatre person). Keep in mind that a lot of (dare I say most) of the 7sage success stories did not get their amazing scores on their first attempt and would not have gotten them had they given up after a disappointing score- food for thought.

Now, for those struggling with motivation or questioning whether law is no longer the right path (solely because of an LSAT score that does not reflect the hard work they've put in) do yourselves a favor: take at least a couple days off and pick up the book "Can't hurt me" by David Goggins. This book was recommended to me by someone who helped me, and boy did it light the fire under my ass.

Lastly, I know this test has the ability to consume your entire life (been there). So please, take care of your health, go outside for walks or runs, hit the gym, get your skin some sunlight and make sure you do non-LSAT related things.

Yes, this test is important, but it is just that, a test.

Good luck!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Tuesday, Aug 03 2021

Another thing to ease your mind, if you're scoring in the range of your first 3 PT's it would be almost impossible to luck into a 165. People who are familiar with the LSAT know this. So don't worry, just write an addendum as you were advised above. Good luck!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Monday, Aug 02 2021

Good question! In terms of the LSAT, the longer you study and the more you improve the better you'll get at determining what constitutes a "reasonable" assumption. In a sense it is a skill that you fine tune. With that said, there are also simple measures you can put in place to more often than not avoid unreasonable assumptions, such as being very strict with yourself when you're uncertain. i.e err on the side of caution (of course this is also easier said than done because, well, you don't know what you don't know). Another strategy you can employ is weighing assumptions against each other from different answer choices. For instance, lets say you've narrowed the answer choices down to 3 contenders, rather than trying to measure how reasonable a given assumption is in a vacuum, measure them against each other- and practice doing this not only timed but also untimed. Every time you pick the incorrect answer, make a note and contrast it to the correct one. How was A's assumption more reasonable than B's? this will become apparent a lot quicker when you really begin to dissect and analyze these things on a regular basis. The same thing goes for when you get an answer choice correct- contrast it to your second most attractive AC. There will always be a distinguishing factor between the correct and incorrect AC that will allow the LSAC to stand behind the correct answer-your goal is to find that justification.

good luck!

User Avatar
maizinburly527
Monday, Aug 02 2021

I’ll also chime in here in regards to retaking the LSAT. The only plausible scenario in which you retake a 170+ score is if you are extremely confident you will do better, and I don’t mean one or two points better. This decision should be based on empirical data, in other words, you’d better be scoring in the mid-high 170’s VERY consistently and even then, given the margins, there exists the possibility of scoring the same or worse. I’ll quote the dean of admissions at both Harvard and Yale “I would question someone’s judgement if they retake a 170’s score”.

This is not to say you absolutely shouldn’t, but it is risky, as scoring the same or lower on another take would likely diminish the light in which your current score is viewed; which is already in the highest echelons of the test.

In any case, good luck!

Confirm action

Are you sure?