LSAC told me that my test session was being reviewed; how long do I need to wait for the score to be released? My writing portion was done prior to the April exam and not getting a score has made me anxious.
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Aside from being absolutely solid with your foundational skills (conditional logic, causal reasoning, etc.), timing, translation, question type strategies, and adequate depth of review are some of the more high value areas that can lead to broad gains across every section.
could you provide an example of question type strategies?
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In general, that’s an excellent score. What’s your target school?
I was hoping for Columbia/Chicago (a reach, I know) and NYU/UCLA/Virginia. But with the cycle being as competitive as it is, I'm pessimistic about my chances.
So the LSAT April results are out and I scored a 166 - as an int'l student, should I try applying? Or is it better if I continue on to June? Advice/suggestions are welcome!
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I think when I took it (June) the time slots were at least from like 8AM-5PM. The range of times may have been wider, but I remember seeing at least that much
Thanks for this! Is there any way for me to check this on the actual website?
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Like others have said, LR takes time. I recommend you look at your 7Sage analytics of your prep tests. Then, you should DRILL like crazy. I can't stress how important daily drilling is.
So I've covered the CC and done a bunch of question from the problem sets; for a lot of the questions I know the answers. How do I get past this?
According to the LSAC website, the Flex will be offered in a number of time slots across (I believe) a week. Does anyone what these time slots are? I’m planning to give my PTs in the same time slot as the exam, so if anyone could shed some light on the slots available, it would greatly help me in preparing my schedule.
Thank you!
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LR just takes time. You will need to see tons of questions to really solidify your understanding. BR questions to 100% certainty before moving on, be sure you know why right answers are right, and just as importantly, why wrong answers are wrong. FWIW, I do not feel the newer tests are harder, I have taken most of the 80's and wrote October and November, and I have found LR to be fairly typical in all of those.
Hi!
I've found the newer questions to be more difficult personally; could you tell me how you improved you score? I take BR seriously and I'm honest with myself about question types I'm weaker at, but going through the CC doesn't help anymore because the newer questions are just on a different level.
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Those struggling had other issues that are being exposed now.
This is probably true; I've long had issues with NA/Flaw and drilled them a fair bit and I;m seeing improvements. MSS & MBT continue to be issues for me; I think a big part of the problem is that I don't trust myself when it comes to ACs I know to be true instinctively.
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Diligently blind reviewing is HUGE. LR is an interesting section because the stimulus/ans types repeat a lot so I recommend looking for patterns in the stimulus and answer choices. Another important resource for me was Ellen Cassidy's book called "Loophole". The book provides an easier way to think about LR and helped me improve.
Random side note: If you get the chance, I'm very curious about your approach to newer RC. I've gotten -6 on old RC passages but these newer ones are really hurting my score. Did you notice this shift? What helped you?
Good luck!
Hi!
I do tend to BR diligently but the wording of the ACs on the newer questions honestly throws me off. Simply can't get the harder ones right, though on BR I do get a few correct. I don't have access to Loophole and can't really get it in time; do you have oher suggestions?
As for RC, I think I may have been a bit presumptuous with my comment. I struggled occasionally on the harder passages but by and large JY's memory method is what I use. If you don't mind me saying, I recommend doing PT79 - that one gave me an insanely hard time on RC [it was notorious for difficult passages]. We can chat about it over DMs too!
Hello everyone!
Joined 7Sage recently and I had a question I would appreciate some advice on. I’m currently in the fourth year of law school (the semester is yet to commence) in India and I wanted to take the LSAT so I can enroll in a T-14 university. The Indian undergraduate degree is a five-year program, so I’ll be eligible to seek admission into law school only from 2022.
Given this situation, I would appreciate it if anyone well-versed with the admissions process could tell me the right time to sit for the LSAT. Currently, I’m planning to take the test in January 2021, but considering that I won’t be free till mid-2022, is this a good decision?
Covered the CC fully last month & got into PTs this month; considering that my exam target is April, I've only taken exams in the 70s and 80s series. I've noticed that I tend to miss a lot of LR questions despite feeling like my fundamentals are solid post the CC. There's been good improvement in RC and LG [-4 and -5 respectively, with the potential to go -2 if I cut out the silly mistakes] since I started, but I really need help with LR questions on the newer exams which are [IMO] tougher than the ones discussed in the CC.
Decided to start PTing using tests from 2018 because of the short runway available to me -- absolutely bombed the LR section on the two I've attempted so far. LG is reasonable and RCs are occasionally tough but I'm stunned by how difficult LR questions are from Q15 onward. Has anyone else experienced this??
That's amazing, congratulations! Please consider sharing your study schedule!
I took my first ever diagnostic from Khan Academy about a month ago and scored a 152, and recently took a PT and scored 158. I’m enjoying the CC and it’s definitely helped me approach questions better, but I continue to have significant issues with MBT, parallel method and flaw questions. Any suggestions on how I can improve in these? My approach so far has been to practice the hardest questions from the problem sets. I have plenty of time before giving the actual test, but I’m hoping to see my score hit 165 consistently in the coming months. Hadn’t got time to foolproof logic games till now but will be doing that post improving my LR performance.
Suggestions on how to improve in these areas – especially from those who have recorded drastic improvements – are welcome. Help out a fellow Sager!
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I purchased the LSAT separately and then registered for the CAS at a later date. You can do that.
Thanks!
Can we take the LSAT without registering for the CAS if the plan is to apply for next year’s cycle? Or will the LSAT score not be saved for the five year period on our file if we don’t sign up for the CAS?
Like the title suggests, one of my big weaknesses is the tendency to galaxy brain ACs - it leads me to change my answer (usually the right choice) to a wrong one. I always manage to convince myself that the answer I chose instinctively is incorrect, and I do get a couple of questions right after I go back for a second attempt.
How do I avoid this going forward?
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The thing that helped me the most was reading Elle Cassidy's book: Loophole in Logical Reasoning. The chapter on translation is especially helpful. Learning to translate the stimulus and pre-phrasing are the main skills that allowed me to go from -5 per LR section to -1 per LR section on test day. In addition, I found it very helpful to develop a 'checklist' of one to two items per LR question type so that I would quickly know my task for each question type before I went into the answer choices. For example, for 'role in argument' questions my 'checklist' is: "A, CR". Where A stands for Accurate description (usually the first part of each answer choice) and the CR stands for Correct Role. If the first part of the answer choice is not accurate description then you can kill that answer without reading any further. For the answer choice (s) that begin with an accurate description, keep reading the second part of and verify that the second part describes the 'Correct Role' (i.e. make sure that every word in the second part is correct). There are 17 question types in LR and you can develop a one or two step checklist for each question type. The checklist should be very simple as a complicated checklist is likely to be forgotten on test day with the anxiety and stress of test day. The goal is to have a checklist that works 85-90% of the time as a checklist that works a 100% of the time would be too long and unwieldly. Hope this helps.
This sounds really helpful; I think externalising the process through a checklist would help in improving recall and accuracy. If you don't mind, could you share the checklist you made?
Hi, I'd love to join -- been scoring in the mid 160s over the last few tests though I'm still worried it's a blip. I'd appreciate help on specific question types so hoping to join, thanks!
Is anyone taking the test from Asia [including India]? Was hoping to create a discussion thread for the April exam where we can perhaps share tips/strategies to help one another!
I took the announcement to mean that for the 4section LSATs, we can no longer take it for granted that the variable part will be LR. Wonder if 7sage will incorporate the break in the PTs going forward.
So I'd taken the April LSAT and scored a 166 - it was higher than I'd gotten on PTs [late 70s and the entirety of the 80s] on which I'd been averaging 164-165. But the issue is that my average has dropped to 161 on the three recent tests I've taken, which are from the 60s series.
Should I go back to tests in the 70s to see if there's a change in pattern that benefited me, or is 161 a reflection of my level at the moment?
How do we implement meaningful increases in LR? I'm halfway through fool-proofing for LG & try to do Harder RCs every 2 days, but usually just look at the hardest questions for LR from the Problem Sets page under untimed conditions. It feels like this is the wrong approach; so how do I improve and cut down the errors?
If it's not too late, I'd appreciate it if you could send me the link!
Feeling extremely disheartened in recent days; I always seem to either completely screw up or make silly mistakes on RC/LG. No idea how to break out of this because something or the other always crops up to bring down my score.
Is it possible to buy the prep plus package only for a month? I haven't seen the option on law-hub so I was wondering if that's possible [though it doesn't seem to be, unfortunately].
I've done the CC and completed the problem sets but I'm just unable to crack this section. Please help.
I have the same issue - managed to up my score into the low 160s from high 150s but stuck there since. What would you say are your big weaknesses?
From what I've read, you're allowed to have a bottle and 5 pieces of scrap paper - you'll have to show both sides to prove that they're blank. There's a lot of info on the LSAC website about the requirements.
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Hi! Congrats on your improvements and I'm kind of looking for advice on if there is any mechanism/thing that you feel that helped you to make progresses in all sections (especially LR and RC)? I'm also looking for advice on how to improve the RC session, like how did you approach a passage and the questions each time if possible :)) Thanks and good luck on your upcoming tests!
Hey, Mark! Thanks a lot!!
For RC I was getting up to -12 in the beginning and now average -4. So DON'T WORRY you can make progress despite what some say. I did a couple of days of just doing timed RC sections to get more comfortable with them. Then I made a noticeable effort to try to be super present while i'm reading, but read fast. What I mean by that is I don't try to work out any logical relationships of the sentence and I just try to read it quick and remember where things are at. Then what the questions reference, I'll go back and touch-up on it if need be. I think eventually after reading fast for a while your brain starts to naturally digest the information quicker and easier, giving you more time.
LR just started intuitively making sense after some time and the answer choices seem so cookie-cutter after you do a lot of PT's to where you almost just half-heartedly read answer choices because you know exactly what you're looking for. I can't help much here, but if you feel like you need to use pencil and paper aside from MAYBE 1 question per LR i'd say you don't have a good enough grasp on the fundamentals of it yet!
I began noticing a dip in RC scores so have been practising timed sections every day; while I go -4/-5 on them, I miss at least two because of fatigue when doing PTs. Any tips on how to avoid that, especially as you practised doing three PTs [which is insane!] per day?
Scored a 166 in April, it's down to 161 in June. I'm not even sure of what went wrong; I felt good coming out of the test despite a proctor interruption. Threw me off on the final bit of LG (had only a couple questions left on the final game) but I was okay for RC which was the final section - I just don't know what went wrong.
Has anyone experienced anything similar? I didn't expect to do this badly at all
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You sure can: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-flex-score-converter/
Can this be used if we do only three sections on LawHub?
International student here, would love to join!
I too am around the same number with MBT and flaw questions being my main weakness. Did you resolve your issues with either question type? If so, could you shed some light on how you did it?
Congratulations!!! If you don't mind, could I shoot you a DM?
This is great -- congratulations! As an aside, I was hoping to message you personally if that's okay, just have a couple of questions about the exam!
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Yes, you can. But it is recommended to take it as soon as possible, as it needs time to process and be approved so that your score can be released. You score cannot be released to you if your writing section has not been approved. So take it as soon as you can! I took mine a couple of days before my test date and everything went fine:)
Thank you for responding!
When is the latest one can take the LSAT writing before the actual exam? For example, can I take it a day before?
pretty much what's asked in the title
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My was under review too, they just released my score an hour ago, it is ok, you will be fine.
thanks for responding; did you file a complaint? Or were there no hurdles to your score release?