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Sunday, Jun 20 2021

@8633 I typically looked for specific questions on the discussion board - not really within the curriculum. While I was in the curriculum I was still trying to wrap my head around everything and found comments of others less useful during that time.

It was during my push from 160 to 170, after the curriculum was complete, that I actively sought questions of others out.

My favorite posts were the ones titled: PT1, Section 4, q21 - because it was asking something very specific usually

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Friday, Jun 18 2021

Just here to second this advice. Back when I took the test like 4 years ago I was eager to see people post questions. So I could test my understanding of it. Could I explain it? Was I too lost? - sometimes I didn’t even post the reply because it pointed out a major weakness and I had to go deal with it.

It’s a chance to help others while shoring up your own skills.

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Wednesday, May 19 2021

My personal statement was about quitting my cigarette addiction.

While the comparison isn’t that strong, because what you’ve done is far more amazing than quitting smoking, there are some really impactful themes that this topic (in my opinion) can get across to the admissions people.

1.) you are self-aware enough to identify your own weaknesses, and able to address them.

2.) you are focused and driven to achieve a goal that is physiologically against you. Nothing about this was/is easy.

3.) you are not afraid to seek help from others when you know there is a weakness you need addressed.

4.) you are willing to tackle the unknown and are able to handle any setbacks hurdles that come your way.

All of these traits matter in law school, and frankly in life. If the statement is written well I think it’s perfect. I actually disagree with some of the statements above - everyone will be supportive of your journey.

There is nothing unnecessary or unprofessional about turning your life around and improving yourself. The whole point of a personal statement is to get across who you are to the admissions people. And in fact it shows your strength of character. I unfortunately completely disagree with @jesseksachs64

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Saturday, May 15 2021

marine4life6798246

Don’t Give Up

Hey everyone I’m here to just say, don’t give up.

Four years ago I started my journey to law school with a 2.8 GPA and an extremely low starting LSAT score. After obsession over the test, and with the tremendous help of 7Sage and its community, I was able to score a 171.

Yesterday, I graduated from Northwestern Pritzker School of Law and was awarded the Wigmore Key Student award.

Your past mistakes DO NOT DEFINE YOUR FUTURE SUCCESS. Anyone is capable of being right where I am.

So if things are hard right now, if the dream seems to far out of reach, just keep going. You will all achieve your goals. Work hard, study harder. Rely on 7Sage and the community here.

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Saturday, Feb 27 2021

Don’t give up your passions! But your game time will significantly decrease during law school 😂 I’m such a hardcore nerd though that I HAVE to get gaming in somewhere during the week haha

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Friday, Feb 26 2021

Haha now it’s Valheim! And I’m a 3L just trying to graduate 😂 video games are trying to sabotage me! (Also insanely hyped for Diablo 2 and the rogue from 4!!)

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Saturday, Feb 20 2021

Adding to both of the amazing scores above - don't neglect the wrong answer in your review. You can learn just as much from the wrong answer you picked as you can from the right answer. The wrong answer you picked was attractive for a reason; a wrong reason. What was that reason? Why was it attractive? What is the error in the reasoning?

Compare it to the right answer. What does the right answer have that the wrong answer doesn't? What is the right answer doing to fill the gap in logic that the wrong answer isn't? Why was the right answer not appealing to you the first time around?

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Saturday, Feb 20 2021

I just want to add that while I agree with what everyone has said here - you need to make your own cost/benefit decisions.

T-14 or bust is almost never the right mindset; instead the mindset should be something like "how much debt am I looking at? Where do I want to practice? What do I want to make after graduation? What kind of law interests me the most? Can I afford moving away from friends and family? Do I want national recognition of the degree or is local okay?"

There is no single answer for everyone. Some instances might be closer to t-14 or bust while others might be any degree that gets them into law.

All of this is to say, make sure you're making the best decisions FOR YOU, we're all strangers and only you know what you want to do and what you're willing to risk/spend/acquire to get there.

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marine4life6798246
Wednesday, Jan 20 2021

@jpoznan0587375 said:

@jhaldy10325 and just think of how many people you are helping too !!

Yeah , after I saw your karma points I realized you meant it more as a dig for yourself lol.

did you take the exam yet?

Yeah, I'm a 3L at Northwestern! I took the exam 3 times between 2016-2017.

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Tuesday, Jan 19 2021

@jpoznan0587375 said:

why is posting considered obsessing ? I look at it as helping others while also helping myself?

I meant it more as a dig at myself. I posted far too often 😂

Posting is one of the best ways to learn the test imo

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Monday, Jan 18 2021

If you obsess over the test and website it can be an embarrassing number for how often you posted 😬

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Thursday, Dec 31 2020

@karenako539 said:

@karenako539 btw would you mind sharing your stats here or via PM? NU is technically a reach for me so I am not expecting much, but still hoping to have a somewhat decent shot haha

Yep no problem!

LSAT - 171

cGPA - 2.8

~ 10 years work experience

However the GPA is sort of misleading; after serving in the Marine Corps I went back to school and had two years of 4.0. So my college transcripts are sort of all over the place.

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marine4life6798246
Monday, Dec 21 2020

Question stem refers to a unique part of the question as a whole.

The idea is to break the question into different parts: you have the passage/stimulus where you are being provided with the world and logic the question is relying on. Then the stem is what the question is asking you to do.

Saying "the question" is usually interpreted to mean both the passage AND the stem. It's designed for clarity.

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Monday, Dec 21 2020

That last jump is the hardest to make. You're going from multiple questions being the difference between different scores to one question making the difference in scores.

Trust yourself, and really hammer down on the questions you are missing, look for patterns - maybe even record the types you're missing/the kinds of logic you're missing. It really becomes a game of nitpicking every mistake to jump from the high 160's into the 170's.

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marine4life6798246
Sunday, Dec 20 2020

I started not much different than you. After about a year and a half of studying (while working full time) I scored a 171!

This test is learnable - it just takes some desire, some hardwork, and some stubbornness. After learning the core concepts behind the test it's just about nitpicking what you're getting wrong - it's a grind!

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marine4life6798246
Sunday, Dec 20 2020

Man, I spammed this form like hell when I was studying - and I think 99.9% of the stuff I said was pretty dumb 😂 post whatever is on your mind!

Everyone here is at least a little nuts (I mean, they're studying the LSAT) and it's a great place to vent/encourage/ask for help/give help!

Also, totally liked your post as well!

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Friday, Dec 18 2020

I think at a high level, your ability to see how different rules interact and play out when used in conjunction with each other is something that you do a lot in law school. For instance the Federal Rules for Civil Procedure, or the rules surrounding Jurisdiction, can all have different impacts on a case. You need to be able to understand how they all mesh together in order to understand the procedural posture of a case.

But more specifically, the actually working of a logic game does not really come into play during law school at all. You won't really be "diagraming" or making "game boards" in the same way you do on a logic game.

Instead you'll be making large flow charts with questions/answers on how to analyze a legal problem. Eg.

1.) Does the party have standing?

If yes go on to step two, if

no throw out the case.

2.) is the case ripe? If yes go to step 3, if no throw the case out.

3.) is the case moot? If yes throw it out, if no go to step 4...

Etc etc.

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marine4life6798246
Sunday, Dec 13 2020

@karenako539 its a great school! Right on Lake Michigan so you get a great view from the library and some of the classrooms.

The staff at the school is excellent and they do their best to listen to the student body and work with us. COVID sorta ripped half my law school experience away from me though haha - I got 1L and half of 2L before everything changed. We are still remote and remote law school is NOT fun imo.

There are tons of activities at the school though and you never really feel like anyone is "cut throat" in any way. The student body at NU leans to the older side and includes students that usually have more work experience, so you get a well rounded group of individuals.

Over all I'd say NU is a great choice! Plus you're right in downtown Chicago so there is a ton to do around the school (when you find time haha)

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marine4life6798246
Saturday, Dec 12 2020

Current NU 3L, highly recommend doing the interview.

Also as @marine4life6798246 said they allow you to record and do practice questions - it's worth doing! The questions you get will be nothing out of the ordinary. Things like:

Why law?

Name a time when you faced adversity and over came it

Name a time you disagreed with a co-worker or class mate, how did you resolve it?

Etc etc

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Thursday, Nov 26 2020

@hopje336 said:

And, well ... now imagine that you have A LOT of long hair that takes a very LONG time to dry ...

Keeps you extra alert each time the cold hair touches your skin! So you get even longer lasting alertness :)

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marine4life6798246
Wednesday, Nov 25 2020

LG. Do LG all day everyday. Lg's are so learnable you can get yourself to a point of consistent 0/-1.

Then it's just a slow methodical process of hammering LR concepts home.

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Friday, Nov 13 2020

As someone in law school; I'd highly recommend you treat it as normally as possible.

Law schools are desperately trying to return to "normal" right now for quite a few reasons. Even if next fall/spring are online, they will very likely return to in-person at some point during your three years; and they'll expect you to attend.

Also on an unrelated note, online law school sorta sucks. Lol

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Saturday, Nov 07 2020

@fuiop9912193 @cmoren21808

7pm est!

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Friday, Nov 06 2020

@jhaldy10325 said:

@nasrinlin530 said:

@jhaldy10325 very hard to focus on Fed Jur with my bed less than a foot away from me haha

And Pfander's voice is so calming. It's a real struggle.

Only thing that keeps me awake is the consistent need to google half the words and phrases he says hahaha

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Friday, Nov 06 2020

@jhaldy10325 very hard to focus on Fed Jur with my bed less than a foot away from me haha

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