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I agree with the above that is a very realistic goal. Especially because you can make a lot of progress within the 150's (a little hard to make progress through the 160's and especially 170's). My best advice would be to start with getting as near perfect on logic games as you can. After that, figure out where your weaknesses are. I scored where your goal is (on the June flex) so if you want any more direct advice I would be more than happy to do so. Good luck- you will get there!

Thank you! I think improving on logic games is probably the best way to start studying again. And congrats on your score as well! And I would appreciate any further advice you have on how to improve and improve consistently.

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I think that it's realistic! I have heard that the first LSAT is always the toughest one because of the nerves and you're unfamiliar with the conditions (no matter how well we try to prepare it is unlikely to be as high pressure as the real one). I think it's definitely possible for you to do so especially because there is still about 6 weeks until August and even longer until October- so plenty of time to study!

Thank you!! I'm planning on October, since I can still apply for early decision with that exam! This was very encouraging and very much what I needed to hear :)

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Just make a problem set of the first few questions on an old test. You shouldn't check your answers, just answer a few to get the mental juices flowing.

Okay, thank you! I'm totally going to give this a try.

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Do you do a warm-up before taking your PTs? It could be that you just need to get a few questions under your belt before you take the section. The warm up could be as few as 2-5 questions just to get you in the mindset.

I don't do a warm up, since I've always been worried it would throw me off if I got some wrong, but now that's looking like a good idea! Do you have a recommendation on where to find warm up questions? Like should I just use an old PT and answer a few?

Does anyone else keep second guessing themselves because they think the correct answer is too "simple" to be the correct answer? Out of these first few practice sets, that's kind of what I'm noticing, and any advice as to not do this? #help

This is wonderful! Thank you!

Hi! Obviously I can't entirely put myself in your shoes, but I would guess that your LG regression is due to burnout, at least some of it at least. As far as dealing with the regression, I would recommend taking a break from your studies, at least for a day or two, if not more. I personally find that helpful when I am struggling with something. As well as this, I would try and rework the games untimed. Are you making silly mistakes? If you had a consistent -4, I would imagine that that's the case, since it sounds like you know the material.

As far as a timing strategy, I try to make sure I'm not spending too much time on one question, or one game. If I notice myself getting wrapped up in a question, I'll guess (so at least there's an answer and at the very least your guess may be correct) and move on. By doing this, I can get to all/most of the questions, and confidently know that I've answered a majority of them correct (I'm also pretty consistent with a -4, -5 LG).

I hope this was somewhat helpful, and good luck!

I took the June LSAT, and am retaking in October. If I remember correctly, the tests are different each day, but I am not 100% sure! I would bet on them being different though.

I'd have to second everyone saying the Powerscore bibles! They helped me quite a bit. Also, if you wanted the 2020 one, amazon has them all; I just got it as an ebook so I could start using them right away!

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@ @ You can still do 4 section PT's as @ and @ are doing, but then convert your score to 3-section using the tool: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-flex-score-converter/

Remember whatever section you do 2 of, choose the worst of the 2 to properly simulate worst possible score/conditions.

And as others have said, be sure to take a 10 minute break (mandatory) halfway through (between sections 2 and 3 of 4 total).

Thank you for this recommendation! That is what I have been doing-I tend to score pretty evenly across all sections, which is why I think my scores tended to match up when I re-grade them using the converter.

I was also wondering this! I've just been PT-ing with all 4 sections, but I wasn't sure how "accurate" the scores were, since only 3 sections will be scored on the actual LSAT. If anyone has any insight on this I would also greatly appreciate it!

Okay,I'm coming back to edit this comment, and I'm not sure if this is confusing, but I just converted some of my recent PTs that were graded on all 4 sections (I believe that's how 7sage grades) and re-graded them, only using 3 sections and grading with an LSAT-flex chart that's only out of 75/76 questions, and the scores were the same. So I would be under the impression that the scores are accurate, in case you were wondering that too. As far as only testing with 3 sections, I would recommend against that. You never know if the 4th section could be one that isn't the experimental, and I think it's really helpful to practice having the mental stamina of taking all 4 sections. It also gives further practice since you get exposure to more questions.

I hope this was somewhat helpful, and not too confusing!

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2 RC for me, one being very easy and the other super difficult... Easier section had a passage about Outkast. Anyone with 1 RC remember this?

I had one RC and didn't have anything with Outkast! My RC had a passage about paranormal activity, that was the comparative one.

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just finished a bit ago. lr felt normal, rc was fine and 2 lg games tripped me up which sucks. but i think i did ok. so glad it's over. hoping my score is decent so i can just move on from this test forever. even if it's not decent i think i'm done lol. the most challenging thing i've ever done with working full time and doing a masters program. best of luck everyone!

I feel the exact same way! It's kinda comforting to see that certain parts of the exam were hard for a lot of people (on here anyways!) Here's to hoping for a semi-decent curve for those LGs!

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Has anyone heard anything about if all of these technical difficulties may delay the release of the scores from the October 27th date?

Even if you have to test later, like if your test on Saturday got messed up due to the outage, (that's what happened to me) you should still get your score on the 27th

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Also, do any of you know when we are getting the refund?

According to the email, they're not refunding us, just giving us two free law school reports and moving you to a November test date, if that is something that you would want!

Just called - we are getting refunded. They haven't processed them yet, but we are getting out money back.

Is this even if you are still taking the October test? I'm rescheduled for this Thursday. Also someone mentioned above that this may only be in Canada, are you in the states?

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Also, do any of you know when we are getting the refund?

According to the email, they're not refunding us, just giving us two free law school reports and moving you to a November test date, if that is something that you would want!

I would not write an argument for both sides. The instructions are fairly clear to only make an argument for one choice, so I think attempting to do both, could hurt you. It may be a good or valid paper/argument, but it wouldn't be following the instructions.

Hi! I had the exact same dilemma; I started studying in January, and am now taking the June LSAT. I think there's too much pressure to take every single PT. Once I was done with the core curriculum, I was trying to take them every other day. After finishing a very hard semester, I was extremely burnt out, and I ended up in a serious plateau. So, my advice would be to trust yourself, and take them as you see fit for your mental health/your schedule. Taking them every day, or every other day won't help at all if you're burnt out. For me, what helped the most was taking 2-3 day breaks in between each PT, and not even reviewing them until the day after I had taken them. I would really recommend doing something like this, because like I said above, imo, there's too much pressure to take as many as possible, and that's just not feasible for everyone!

That's really helpful, thank you so much! I'll try and take a more objective approach like you suggested, I hope that it helps!!

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Fool proof fool proof fool proof. You just have to practice. There's no trick really. I learned LG on my own (I never took the 7sage curriculum), and you just have to find methods that work for you. Start by trying to play each game under 10-15 mins (depending on how you're scoring now). Play the same games again under 10 mins, push the time down to 8, and try to get down to cracking in 5 mins. When you blind review, play all the sections again.

I think this was my mistake the first go around-not fool proofing my games as I should have. Hopefully this is what I need, since I have the foundations for everything.

That’s really good advice! I do tend to do change my answer when i’m going back over the questions either during the timed sections, or during blind review. I always finish all the questions though, so timing isn’t particularly an issue for me! But I will definitely try to keep this in mind for next time I take a PT and see how that helps!

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If you can increase your LG score, I think this is very possible!

Improving on LG seems to be like the general consensus on where to start, so i definitely hope that helps! If you have any words of wisdom/advice on improving I'd love to hear