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Thursday, Feb 08 2024

@ oh my, I'm so sorry to hear that :(, I've been there so I know how much it stinks. I also can't imagine taking the LSAT and not having your first language as English, I can only imagine the struggles you've had to overcome with this test. There were many times throughout my 2 years of studying where I felt like I was getting no where and many times I wanted to quit, but I'm so glad I kept on going. I was hitting so many breakthroughs on this test, without even knowing, just by showing up everyday and trying my best to study the materials the right way. I wish you nothing but the best of luck and really hope everything works out in your favor. Thank you so much too! I really hope law school is a lot better lol

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Thursday, Feb 08 2024

@ I'm so glad my post was able to give you some hope! After spending 8/9 months studying for the LSAT I thought I was ready and decided to take it, and I ended up scoring a 149! Which was 9 points below my average and only 5 points above my cold diagnostic. I felt defeated when I got my score back and knew that I had to push my applications back and figured out what went so wrong. All this to say, everything will work out the way it is suppose to! Wishing you nothing but the best of luck.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Tuesday, Feb 06 2024

@ I'm glad this post helped you! And no I did not submit an LSAT addendum. In hindsight, I should have reported my problems to LSAC but I felt like my reasons were not good enough for a retake (now I know this is not the case at all) so I cancelled one of my scores instead. Other than my technical difficulties, I had no other reason to write an LSAT addendum. With the test being offered online, I know it's pretty common for people to have technical difficulties and I felt like admission officers hear that a lot. I submitted optional addendum ("diversity statement") instead, and didn't want to give the admission officers something else to read that really wasn't necessary. Personally, I wanted to highlight something positive in my application then come across as making an excuse. My score progressed on paper with each attempt (except for my 4th attempt), and I hoped that this would show the admissions officers that despite my scores I was going to keep trying to aim for the highest score I could get. LSAC gives us 5 attempts for a reason and I wanted to show that I was going to take advantage of that. Hopefully this helps you out! Feel free to message me with any other questions.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Tuesday, Feb 06 2024

@ yes I had a 4.0 GPA! I realized after submitting the post I probably should have included that because I do think that helped a lot, at least when it came to getting one foot in the door. Wishing you nothing but the best of luck though! I'm sure things will work out in your favor.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Monday, Feb 05 2024

@ of course! I'm glad this post helped you. Wishing nothing but the best for you. I've learned through my law school journey that everything will work out in the end! :)

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Monday, Jan 29 2024

@ yes I think this is true to some extent. I was a reserve splitter at every school I applied to so my GPA played a big role in getting one foot in the door. I think my resume, essays, and LOR played a very big role in my scholarships though, but since I'm not an admissions officer I'll never know for sure. If I had to guess I think the supplementary part of my application was a big boost.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Monday, Jan 29 2024

@ thank you so much! And yes, it definitely helped me so much to hear from others. There's so many ups and downs that come with applying for law school, but the most important thing is to keep pushing through.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Monday, Jan 29 2024

@ wishing you the best of luck!! :) (3(/p)

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Monday, Jan 29 2024

mikalyngreenzweig213

Applying to Law School with a Lower LSAT

Throughout my time studying for the LSAT, drafting my law school application materials, and simply trying to find the motivation to continue on when the going got rough, I feel like I need to share my journey to law school story with others on here who may be experiencing the same things I once felt. I found these post to be extremely helpful when I was going through every stage of applying to law school, so hopefully this will help someone else too!

Over the past two years I have spent hundreds of hours studying for the LSAT, taking it a whopping four times, to only score a 158 on my highest attempt. Don't get me wrong, this is a GREAT score, so please do NOT feel discouraged if you are scoring in this range! I am grateful for this score, however, I feel like it did not display my true academic, or LSAT potential. Unfortunately for me, I ran into countless difficulties every time I took the test. Whether it was issues with proctors interrupting and closing out my test, unable to access the online exam, and even having my wifi cutting out during the exam, I believed these issues played a big role in me not being able to perform to my test average and because of this I felt like I was not going to get into the schools I was hoping for, let alone with a scholarship.

In November I finished up applying to all the law schools I was interested in (about 15), most of which my LSAT was below the 50th percentile, even the 25th for some. But regardless of my LSAT score, I was confident in my application as a whole and knew that deep down my GPA, resume, and essays had a good shot at making up for my LSAT score. I believed in the quality of my application and I was hopeful that the admissions committee would see this as well.

As of today, I have received my first FULL RIDE scholarship to a T-30 school where I was below the 25th percentile for the LSAT. Even without this full ride offer, I have been accepted into many good schools with great scholarship offers. Had I listened to reddit or others on the internet who told me to not even bother applying, I would have found myself in a very different situation.

I'm writing this all to say please do not give up or count yourself out, regardless of what others have to say. Shoot your shot and don't tell yourself no, let the school tell you no. Hopefully this is motivating for those who find themselves in a similar situation. If anyone wants to know more about my LSAT/application process please feel free to message me!

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Friday, Oct 20 2023

Hey there!

I found myself in a similar situation. I wrote about a high school experience that influenced me to not only pursue law school, but to continue getting involved with my community at the collegiate level. From what I've gathered, I think it's okay to talk about these experiences especially if they are integral to your decision to attend law school. However, I also do think that it is really important to mention how your high school experience possibly motivated you to continue getting involved in public service or legal work. Whether you got involved with an organization at college, majored in something related to law, had an internship, or got a legal job, I think you should mention how this high school experience led you to doing more if that makes sense. Personally with my essay, I tried not to make the sole focus about my high school experience. I kept it short and sweet, but still got to the point of why this experience was important and how it influenced me. I wanted to still show admissions what I've been doing since my high school experience so they could see how I've actively kept pursuing law. Hopefully this helps, but this is also just my opinion! Everyone's story is different and I think it's more important about how you tell your story than the story itself.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Tuesday, Oct 17 2023

Did anyone notice the typo in one of the AC on one of the LR sections? (I had 2 LR, one 26 questions, one 25) Not sure if I should report that or not.

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Wednesday, Sep 20 2023

mikalyngreenzweig213

Asking for CAS Fee Waiver

I've received a few emails from several law schools offering me CAS fee waivers if I reached out to the school and ask. Does anyone know of any good narratives to use when drafting emails for waivers?

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Wednesday, Aug 30 2023

I second @

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Wednesday, Aug 30 2023

@ thank you!! I appreciate your response and will definitely consider that.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Wednesday, Aug 30 2023

@ thank you! I didn't consider writing about point 4 from that perspective and I think that could definitely be beneficial to my application.

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Wednesday, Aug 30 2023

mikalyngreenzweig213

Should I retake the LSAT?

Help!!!

So I scored a 158 on the August LSAT, which is a little below my average score of 160. Though I am happy with my score, I most definitely feel like I could have scored in the 160's if I hadn't struggled with a game that I'm almost certain I didn't score -0, which is what I usually score. I've already taken the LSAT 3 times, so October would be my 4th and I'm at a point of burnout tbh. Right now, I'm wrapping up my essays and I was really hoping to apply as early as possible because I know that I will most likely be a reverse splitter at every school I apply to since I have a 4.0 GPA.

Part of me is saying retake, another is saying will 2/3 points really make a difference, and even then, if I don't get the 160, I'll be applying later than I hoped.

For reference, I have a 4.0 GPA, graduated a year early with a B.S. and 2 minors, I have more than a year of legal experience working at a law firm, an extensive resume with extracurricular activities and awards, and I genuinely think my essays will stand out (although I'm sure most of us think this anyways). The only weak point in my application will be my LSAT, but I'm not looking to apply to any of the schools in the top 40 (looking at regional schools in Texas and bordering states). Any advice would help!

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Thursday, Aug 17 2023

@ Same! I had 2 RC sections and thought both did a good job at keeping my attention. Some of the best RC I've seen in a while.

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Friday, Aug 04 2023

mikalyngreenzweig213

Diversity Statement Topic Help

I am currently drafting multiple diversity statements with different topics to prepare for my law school applications here in the fall. As of right now, I have a few different topics that I'm considering to write about and would love to get other peoples opinion on the topics.

Background Information:

  • I'm a minority (African American/white)
  • First generation college student
  • Identify with a low socioeconomic class
  • Became a caregiver for my step-parent, who is now disabled due to Covid-19 complications, while I was in undergrad
  • For the first three bullets, I could easily compile these issues into one essay with a good story. However, I feel like the topics may be a little generic. I'm really leaning towards my fourth bullet point. I've heard that admissions are kind of over reading essay about Covid-19, however, I think I could write my most compelling essay with this story. Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions on, 1. whether this would be considered a diversity factor and 2. should I focus my essay on points 1-3 or on point 4.

    Thanks!

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    Wednesday, Jul 19 2023

    mikalyngreenzweig213

    Updating Letter of Recommendation?

    A year ago (last may), I graduated from undergrad, and at the time, I thought I was going to be applying for law school the upcoming fall. Since then, I've decided to take a gap year to work, study for the LSAT, and get my law school applications together. Shortly after graduating, I reached out to one of my supervisor from undergrad about writing me a letter of recommendation and uploading it to LSAC. It's been about a year now and I am officially getting ready to apply for applications come this fall. Should I reach back out to my recommender about updating the letter. Maybe changing the date it was drafting and adding any additional information about what I've been doing over the past year, or just leave it as is? Does it really matter to admissions?

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    mikalyngreenzweig213
    Wednesday, Jul 19 2023

    Honestly, I think everyone's situation is different and if you have the funds to get through law school and feel like your application (LSAT, GPA, and essays) are strong enough to get you in, with scholarships, then go for it! It doesn't hurt to apply and see where you stand if you feel prepared.

    I am currently in my gap year right now, but my situation was a little different. I graduated college a year early, didn't have the money to even afford getting through my first year, and I personally wanted to take time off to focus on my LSAT and application materials without being rushed or feeling pressured to meet certain deadlines. It took me way longer to get my LSAT to where I wanted it to be, so this may be something to consider if your LSAT isn't where you are hoping come September. I've been working at a law firm during my gap year, and taking time off has been the best decision I've made by far, but I don't think it's necessary, especially in your case. I've enjoyed getting advice from the attorney's I've worked with and gaining some experience, but admission aren't really going to care either way if you have any legal experience. As long as your resume is strong and shows that you have actively been involved on campus or in the workforce, I think you'll be fine. They just don't want to see that you've done nothing during your undergrad years.

    My reasons for taking time off are a little different than yours, but at the end of the day, do what you feel is best for you! Legal experience isn't necessary. If you have it, great, if not, great. Just my opinion. Feel free to message me if you have any more questions!

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    mikalyngreenzweig213
    Thursday, Jul 13 2023

    @ Hey, to answer your question about how I decided whether I was going to take the August exam online or in-person, I decided it would be best for me to take in person. I took the LSAT in June for the second time online. Unfortunately, I had a terrible proctor. She interrupted me 4 times throughout my exam because she couldn't see my entire face when I was writing something (even though another proctor came into the room and said that I was perfectly fine), made me rescan my room during the middle of the test, didn't stop the clock each time, and reported me to LSAC where they eventually got back to me saying that they reviewed and I was okay but I would not be given the option to retake even though I lost about 7/8 on the test in total. The second half of my test my anxiety was through the roof because she threatened to cancel my test if I went out the screen one more time (even though I was already given the go ahead by another proctor). All this to say, it's not worth me going through the stress and anxiety of taking remotely again. I ended up scoring 6 points under the average and felt that if I didn't have these interruptions I wouldn't be taking it again. Though I know the proctor was just trying to do her job, personally, there's already enough stress going into the test and I'd rather take in person with possible disturbances of being surrounded by other students and a real proctor (if there are even any distractions) then go through that again. Everyone's experience is different, so I say do what will cause you the least amount of stress and worry. If you are really concerned about the Prometric test in your area, maybe give them or LSAC a call to get more information on what the process will look like on the day of the test, this might resolve some of your concerns.

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    mikalyngreenzweig213
    Thursday, Jul 06 2023

    I know you can chew gum, but I'm not sure about the mints.

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    mikalyngreenzweig213
    Thursday, Jul 06 2023

    @ yeah unfortunately I was one of the few June 2023 that had problems with the proctor. I saw somewhere online that the in-person testing centers allow students to wear head phones during the test (headphones already at the center), and that you are testing in a cubicle. I feel like these changes would help with distractions, but I'm not sure if this is true.

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    Thursday, Jul 06 2023

    mikalyngreenzweig213

    Testing Center vs Remote Testing?

    I am currently signed up to take the August LSAT and I've been debating on taking the test at an in-person testing center this go around. Unfortunately, my first two attempts taking the LSAT I ran into technical difficulties and issues with my proctor interrupting, which caused me to lose ~8 minutes on my most recent attempt in June. Would love to hear other people's opinion on in-person testing vs online before I make my final decision this afternoon. Thanks!

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