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Wednesday, Aug 30 2023

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Wednesday, Aug 30 2023

@ thank you!! I appreciate your response and will definitely consider that.

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Wednesday, Aug 30 2023

@ thank you! I didn't consider writing about point 4 from that perspective and I think that could definitely be beneficial to my application.

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Wednesday, Aug 30 2023

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Should I retake the LSAT?

Help!!!

So I scored a 158 on the August LSAT, which is a little below my average score of 160. Though I am happy with my score, I most definitely feel like I could have scored in the 160's if I hadn't struggled with a game that I'm almost certain I didn't score -0, which is what I usually score. I've already taken the LSAT 3 times, so October would be my 4th and I'm at a point of burnout tbh. Right now, I'm wrapping up my essays and I was really hoping to apply as early as possible because I know that I will most likely be a reverse splitter at every school I apply to since I have a 4.0 GPA.

Part of me is saying retake, another is saying will 2/3 points really make a difference, and even then, if I don't get the 160, I'll be applying later than I hoped.

For reference, I have a 4.0 GPA, graduated a year early with a B.S. and 2 minors, I have more than a year of legal experience working at a law firm, an extensive resume with extracurricular activities and awards, and I genuinely think my essays will stand out (although I'm sure most of us think this anyways). The only weak point in my application will be my LSAT, but I'm not looking to apply to any of the schools in the top 40 (looking at regional schools in Texas and bordering states). Any advice would help!

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Monday, Jan 29 2024

@ yes I think this is true to some extent. I was a reserve splitter at every school I applied to so my GPA played a big role in getting one foot in the door. I think my resume, essays, and LOR played a very big role in my scholarships though, but since I'm not an admissions officer I'll never know for sure. If I had to guess I think the supplementary part of my application was a big boost.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Monday, Jan 29 2024

@ thank you so much! And yes, it definitely helped me so much to hear from others. There's so many ups and downs that come with applying for law school, but the most important thing is to keep pushing through.

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Monday, Jan 29 2024

@ wishing you the best of luck!! :) (3(/p)

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Monday, Jan 29 2024

mikalyngreenzweig213

Applying to Law School with a Lower LSAT

Throughout my time studying for the LSAT, drafting my law school application materials, and simply trying to find the motivation to continue on when the going got rough, I feel like I need to share my journey to law school story with others on here who may be experiencing the same things I once felt. I found these post to be extremely helpful when I was going through every stage of applying to law school, so hopefully this will help someone else too!

Over the past two years I have spent hundreds of hours studying for the LSAT, taking it a whopping four times, to only score a 158 on my highest attempt. Don't get me wrong, this is a GREAT score, so please do NOT feel discouraged if you are scoring in this range! I am grateful for this score, however, I feel like it did not display my true academic, or LSAT potential. Unfortunately for me, I ran into countless difficulties every time I took the test. Whether it was issues with proctors interrupting and closing out my test, unable to access the online exam, and even having my wifi cutting out during the exam, I believed these issues played a big role in me not being able to perform to my test average and because of this I felt like I was not going to get into the schools I was hoping for, let alone with a scholarship.

In November I finished up applying to all the law schools I was interested in (about 15), most of which my LSAT was below the 50th percentile, even the 25th for some. But regardless of my LSAT score, I was confident in my application as a whole and knew that deep down my GPA, resume, and essays had a good shot at making up for my LSAT score. I believed in the quality of my application and I was hopeful that the admissions committee would see this as well.

As of today, I have received my first FULL RIDE scholarship to a T-30 school where I was below the 25th percentile for the LSAT. Even without this full ride offer, I have been accepted into many good schools with great scholarship offers. Had I listened to reddit or others on the internet who told me to not even bother applying, I would have found myself in a very different situation.

I'm writing this all to say please do not give up or count yourself out, regardless of what others have to say. Shoot your shot and don't tell yourself no, let the school tell you no. Hopefully this is motivating for those who find themselves in a similar situation. If anyone wants to know more about my LSAT/application process please feel free to message me!

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Wednesday, Apr 26 2023

mikalyngreenzweig213

Struggling to Improve RC Score

For the past 10 months I've been studying part time for the LSAT. Out of all the sections, RC has consistently given me the most trouble and has been the most difficult section for me to improve on. From my diagnostic test to now, I've only been able to manage going from -15 to -10 (sometimes -8/-9 on a good day). I'm at a loss and I'm not sure what else I can do to improve. This section has been holding me back big time and is part of the reason why score fluctuates so greatly. If anyone has any tips on how I can improve, study, and review this section better, please let me know. I think my biggest issue is not having a strategy when going into RC and immediately feeling intimated/nervous about completing the section. Any advice or words of encouragement would be appreciated.

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Wednesday, Dec 21 2022

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Any Tips for Navigating Scholarships?

I wasn't sure how to title this discussion post, but hopefully someone reading can give me some advice.

I am looking to apply for law school in the next upcoming cycle (applying as early in the cycle as possible) and I plan on taking the LSAT in January (and another exam if needed). One of my biggest concerns with going to law school is making sure 1. I can afford it, and 2. Hopefully receiving enough scholarships to make that possible. I know that your LSAT is probably one of the biggest factors that the admissions office look at when considering how much scholarship money you will be awarded (I am aware that they look each individuals application holistically and there are other factors they take into consideration, but I'm sure most of us are aware that LSAT and GPA are undeniably important).

So my question is, does anyone have any insight/advice on where I should be scoring on a schools percentiles to receive, lets say a full ride to their school? I'm aware that scoring within a schools median is a good place to be, but if that's the case, does this mean I will for sure be receiving aid from that school if I'm hitting those numbers, or should I look to be score higher than the schools median? Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated! I'm more just confused on how a school decides on how will receive scholarships/aid.

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Sunday, May 21 2023

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Wednesday, Sep 20 2023

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Asking for CAS Fee Waiver

I've received a few emails from several law schools offering me CAS fee waivers if I reached out to the school and ask. Does anyone know of any good narratives to use when drafting emails for waivers?

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Wednesday, Jul 20 2022

mikalyngreenzweig213

Study Group for 2023 LSAT (Groupme)

Hello everybody! Looking to start a study group/groupme for those planning to take the LSAT in 2023. Currently shooting for the upper 160's and hoping to take the test in February/April. After studying for only 2 months while working full time and only getting through one section of the LSAT, I've brought my score up from a 144 to a 152. Although it's not great yet, I personally believe it's possible to improve even more, especially with the help of others. I'll link the groupme below for anybody interested!

Groupme Link:

https://groupme.com/join_group/87974319/aZcVO2GA

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Friday, Oct 20 2023

Hey there!

I found myself in a similar situation. I wrote about a high school experience that influenced me to not only pursue law school, but to continue getting involved with my community at the collegiate level. From what I've gathered, I think it's okay to talk about these experiences especially if they are integral to your decision to attend law school. However, I also do think that it is really important to mention how your high school experience possibly motivated you to continue getting involved in public service or legal work. Whether you got involved with an organization at college, majored in something related to law, had an internship, or got a legal job, I think you should mention how this high school experience led you to doing more if that makes sense. Personally with my essay, I tried not to make the sole focus about my high school experience. I kept it short and sweet, but still got to the point of why this experience was important and how it influenced me. I wanted to still show admissions what I've been doing since my high school experience so they could see how I've actively kept pursuing law. Hopefully this helps, but this is also just my opinion! Everyone's story is different and I think it's more important about how you tell your story than the story itself.

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Wednesday, Jul 19 2023

mikalyngreenzweig213

Updating Letter of Recommendation?

A year ago (last may), I graduated from undergrad, and at the time, I thought I was going to be applying for law school the upcoming fall. Since then, I've decided to take a gap year to work, study for the LSAT, and get my law school applications together. Shortly after graduating, I reached out to one of my supervisor from undergrad about writing me a letter of recommendation and uploading it to LSAC. It's been about a year now and I am officially getting ready to apply for applications come this fall. Should I reach back out to my recommender about updating the letter. Maybe changing the date it was drafting and adding any additional information about what I've been doing over the past year, or just leave it as is? Does it really matter to admissions?

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Wednesday, Jul 19 2023

Honestly, I think everyone's situation is different and if you have the funds to get through law school and feel like your application (LSAT, GPA, and essays) are strong enough to get you in, with scholarships, then go for it! It doesn't hurt to apply and see where you stand if you feel prepared.

I am currently in my gap year right now, but my situation was a little different. I graduated college a year early, didn't have the money to even afford getting through my first year, and I personally wanted to take time off to focus on my LSAT and application materials without being rushed or feeling pressured to meet certain deadlines. It took me way longer to get my LSAT to where I wanted it to be, so this may be something to consider if your LSAT isn't where you are hoping come September. I've been working at a law firm during my gap year, and taking time off has been the best decision I've made by far, but I don't think it's necessary, especially in your case. I've enjoyed getting advice from the attorney's I've worked with and gaining some experience, but admission aren't really going to care either way if you have any legal experience. As long as your resume is strong and shows that you have actively been involved on campus or in the workforce, I think you'll be fine. They just don't want to see that you've done nothing during your undergrad years.

My reasons for taking time off are a little different than yours, but at the end of the day, do what you feel is best for you! Legal experience isn't necessary. If you have it, great, if not, great. Just my opinion. Feel free to message me if you have any more questions!

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Thursday, Aug 17 2023

@ Same! I had 2 RC sections and thought both did a good job at keeping my attention. Some of the best RC I've seen in a while.

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Tuesday, Oct 17 2023

Did anyone notice the typo in one of the AC on one of the LR sections? (I had 2 LR, one 26 questions, one 25) Not sure if I should report that or not.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Thursday, Jun 15 2023

I have no words of advice, but just wanted to come on here and say that you are not alone. Took the June test this past week as well and I was interrupted 3 times by my proctor and lost a total of 6/7 minutes in total while taking the test. My proctor complained to LSAC saying she "couldn't see my full face when I was writing stuff down" (of course you can't?), and in return they also brought in another proctor and I was anxious throughout the entire duration of my test. This wasn't my first time taking the test in the setting I was taking it in. Afterwards, I received an email from LSAC saying they reviewed the footage just for them to say I was not in violation of anything but wasn't going to be granted for a retest, even though I lost a great amount of time...All that to say, I will unfortunately have to retest in August and I'm crossing my fingers that in-person testing will be better, because this is ridiculous.

Considering how difficult the LSAT already is, it is very frustrating that now as test takers we can't even take the test in peace no matter what we do on our end. I really hope LSAC gets back to you. I also have Cisco on my computer for work and my proctor also double checked to make sure it was closed down beforehand, if your proctors did the same, then I feel like this was a mistake on their part and not on yours. They should've notified you before you even started the test.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Thursday, Jun 15 2023

Not a team member, but I did this past week on the June LSAT

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Thursday, Jul 13 2023

@ Hey, to answer your question about how I decided whether I was going to take the August exam online or in-person, I decided it would be best for me to take in person. I took the LSAT in June for the second time online. Unfortunately, I had a terrible proctor. She interrupted me 4 times throughout my exam because she couldn't see my entire face when I was writing something (even though another proctor came into the room and said that I was perfectly fine), made me rescan my room during the middle of the test, didn't stop the clock each time, and reported me to LSAC where they eventually got back to me saying that they reviewed and I was okay but I would not be given the option to retake even though I lost about 7/8 on the test in total. The second half of my test my anxiety was through the roof because she threatened to cancel my test if I went out the screen one more time (even though I was already given the go ahead by another proctor). All this to say, it's not worth me going through the stress and anxiety of taking remotely again. I ended up scoring 6 points under the average and felt that if I didn't have these interruptions I wouldn't be taking it again. Though I know the proctor was just trying to do her job, personally, there's already enough stress going into the test and I'd rather take in person with possible disturbances of being surrounded by other students and a real proctor (if there are even any distractions) then go through that again. Everyone's experience is different, so I say do what will cause you the least amount of stress and worry. If you are really concerned about the Prometric test in your area, maybe give them or LSAC a call to get more information on what the process will look like on the day of the test, this might resolve some of your concerns.

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Monday, Jun 12 2023

Felt like this was one of the more reasonable test I have taken, but having two RC passages definitely takes a toll on you during test day. Thought the passages about AI and whales were very interesting, so I'm happy that they were able to keep my attention.

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Monday, Apr 10 2023

mikalyngreenzweig213

Personal Statement Resources?

Hey guys,

I'm in the process of getting my application together for 2024 and was wondering if anyone had any additional personal statement resources, tips, or advice I could use when beginning to write (other than what's on 7sage)? Anything related to diversity statements would be very helpful too.

Thanks!

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Tuesday, Nov 08 2022

mikalyngreenzweig213

When to Sign Up for LSAT

Hey guys I could use some advice. I've been on the fence about signing up for my LSAT in either January or February and I am currently scoring between 159-161 with my BR ranging from 165 - 167. My goal score is a 165 but I'm not sure how far out in advance I should sign up for the test as this will be my very first one. Do I go ahead and sign up and aim to make the necessary improvements between now and Jan/Feb or wait until I've done so with my PT's? I'm also not sure what my study plan should look like between now and then if I do go ahead and sign up. I plan on applying for the next cycle so I am not in a rush to get my score sent to any schools right now. Any helpful advice about testing dates and study plans would be greatly appreciated!

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Thursday, Feb 08 2024

@ oh my, I'm so sorry to hear that :(, I've been there so I know how much it stinks. I also can't imagine taking the LSAT and not having your first language as English, I can only imagine the struggles you've had to overcome with this test. There were many times throughout my 2 years of studying where I felt like I was getting no where and many times I wanted to quit, but I'm so glad I kept on going. I was hitting so many breakthroughs on this test, without even knowing, just by showing up everyday and trying my best to study the materials the right way. I wish you nothing but the best of luck and really hope everything works out in your favor. Thank you so much too! I really hope law school is a lot better lol

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Thursday, Feb 08 2024

@ I'm so glad my post was able to give you some hope! After spending 8/9 months studying for the LSAT I thought I was ready and decided to take it, and I ended up scoring a 149! Which was 9 points below my average and only 5 points above my cold diagnostic. I felt defeated when I got my score back and knew that I had to push my applications back and figured out what went so wrong. All this to say, everything will work out the way it is suppose to! Wishing you nothing but the best of luck.

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Tuesday, Feb 06 2024

@ I'm glad this post helped you! And no I did not submit an LSAT addendum. In hindsight, I should have reported my problems to LSAC but I felt like my reasons were not good enough for a retake (now I know this is not the case at all) so I cancelled one of my scores instead. Other than my technical difficulties, I had no other reason to write an LSAT addendum. With the test being offered online, I know it's pretty common for people to have technical difficulties and I felt like admission officers hear that a lot. I submitted optional addendum ("diversity statement") instead, and didn't want to give the admission officers something else to read that really wasn't necessary. Personally, I wanted to highlight something positive in my application then come across as making an excuse. My score progressed on paper with each attempt (except for my 4th attempt), and I hoped that this would show the admissions officers that despite my scores I was going to keep trying to aim for the highest score I could get. LSAC gives us 5 attempts for a reason and I wanted to show that I was going to take advantage of that. Hopefully this helps you out! Feel free to message me with any other questions.

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Tuesday, Feb 06 2024

@ yes I had a 4.0 GPA! I realized after submitting the post I probably should have included that because I do think that helped a lot, at least when it came to getting one foot in the door. Wishing you nothing but the best of luck though! I'm sure things will work out in your favor.

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Thursday, Jul 06 2023

I know you can chew gum, but I'm not sure about the mints.

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Thursday, Jul 06 2023

@ yeah unfortunately I was one of the few June 2023 that had problems with the proctor. I saw somewhere online that the in-person testing centers allow students to wear head phones during the test (headphones already at the center), and that you are testing in a cubicle. I feel like these changes would help with distractions, but I'm not sure if this is true.

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Thursday, Jul 06 2023

mikalyngreenzweig213

Testing Center vs Remote Testing?

I am currently signed up to take the August LSAT and I've been debating on taking the test at an in-person testing center this go around. Unfortunately, my first two attempts taking the LSAT I ran into technical difficulties and issues with my proctor interrupting, which caused me to lose ~8 minutes on my most recent attempt in June. Would love to hear other people's opinion on in-person testing vs online before I make my final decision this afternoon. Thanks!

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mikalyngreenzweig213
Tuesday, Jun 06 2023

If you convert your test to a paper version you can go in an select what you would have for BR. You will have to complete the section as a separate drill, then go to the PT and enter your BR answer. Hope this helps!

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Monday, Feb 05 2024

@ of course! I'm glad this post helped you. Wishing nothing but the best for you. I've learned through my law school journey that everything will work out in the end! :)

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Friday, Aug 04 2023

mikalyngreenzweig213

Diversity Statement Topic Help

I am currently drafting multiple diversity statements with different topics to prepare for my law school applications here in the fall. As of right now, I have a few different topics that I'm considering to write about and would love to get other peoples opinion on the topics.

Background Information:

  • I'm a minority (African American/white)
  • First generation college student
  • Identify with a low socioeconomic class
  • Became a caregiver for my step-parent, who is now disabled due to Covid-19 complications, while I was in undergrad
  • For the first three bullets, I could easily compile these issues into one essay with a good story. However, I feel like the topics may be a little generic. I'm really leaning towards my fourth bullet point. I've heard that admissions are kind of over reading essay about Covid-19, however, I think I could write my most compelling essay with this story. Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions on, 1. whether this would be considered a diversity factor and 2. should I focus my essay on points 1-3 or on point 4.

    Thanks!

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    Wednesday, Feb 01 2023

    mikalyngreenzweig213

    Should I cancel my score?

    Just got my January LSAT results back, and unfortunately I performed the worst I ever have on a test. This was my first official LSAT however I've been studying and PTing for the past 8 months, so I know for a fact that it is not an accurate reflection of my potential, or even close to my average PT scores. I'm debating on cancelling since I already purchased the score preview, however, I'm not too sure whether it is a good idea to cancel vs not to cancel since this is my first official test. I'm not applying til next cycle so I'm wondering how will this affect my application when I do go to apply?

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    Tuesday, Nov 01 2022

    mikalyngreenzweig213

    LSAC Removing Logic Games

    Today I got an email (and I'm sure most people have as well), about the practice LSAT field study for the new alternatives to the logic games section that will be administered in December. I know LSAC announced that they are looking to announce the changes to LG sometime in 2023, but I was wondering if anyone knew specifically when these changes would be implemented? I'm shooting to take my LSAT sometime early in 2023 and I'm going to be really bummed if I'm studying LG for no reason right now.

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    Thursday, Dec 01 2022

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    Are the live classes worth it?

    I plan on taking my LSAT in January and I'd say I'm pretty far into my studies, however there are a few areas in LR and RC that I'd like to polish up between now and my LSAT date. I haven't heard much about the live classes but I was wondering if it would be worth it for me to upgrade for the month and join in on a few before taking my test, or would it be pointless. I'm not sure how in depth the classes are, but I am definitely past the basics of the LSAT and wasn't sure if the classes would benefit me much.

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    Thursday, Jun 01 2023

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