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mmiglio708
Friday, Jan 31 2014

Wow.

You both had some very insightful advice for me, thank you.

As I reread my post, I noticed one of the sentences didn't make sense and I repeated myself once; that's the kind of unaware state of mind that I enter after taking the LSAT, lol.

As far as doing all those things jwynne2 suggested, I'm not doing any of them, heh. I've been cramming the LSAT really, really hard, and it's been substituting for all of my other normal activities. My LSAT is at 8 AM, and I've just been doing them mid-noon or in the evening.

Today I'll try to fix these things.

Hi everyone.

My brain tends to go on shutdown during the latter half of the Reading Comprehension sections, and the last quarter of the LR sections.

No matter how many times I read, I get tired.

Will this go away during test day due to adrenaline, perhaps? I'm just so tired of taking practice tests and thinking to myself "screw this."

In my last LSAT Prep Test I missed EVERY QUESTION for the last reading passage, my brain just says "screw this" and starts day dreaming. Even with this mentality I've been scoring in the low 160s.. I really think if I can fix this problem I'll score in the 164-170 range.

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mmiglio708
Friday, Jan 31 2014

Yes, I am. I also have been getting scores in the 158-164 range lately, which is a pretty big jump.

I definitely would LIKE to study in a group--it would keep me even more on task than I already have been. To be fair, I study 8 to 10 hours a day anyways. I'm not sure if you can make that kind of commitment but even if we only got together to go through a practice exam and run through the answers that would be fine, too.

Are you still close to the Tampa Bay Area?

I've been studying in the USF library. However, the Cooper (CPR) building, which is located adjacent to the library, usually has many open classrooms at random points in the day and throughout the evening.

We can use the computer, surround sound system, and pull-down screen to play the proctored tests, watch explanations to answers on the big screen, etc.

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mmiglio708
Thursday, Jan 30 2014

Hey Emily; I live in Tampa and am taking the June LSAT. I'm a college senior in USF--my highest practice test thus far is a 155, but if I took it now I think I'd hit 160. So, that's kind of where I'm at.

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mmiglio708
Thursday, Jan 30 2014

Space Bar 8)....

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mmiglio708
Wednesday, Jan 29 2014

More than just liking, I think the one with the most upvotes should be brought to the top of the page, or perhaps all the comments should be filtered in order of the most upvotes.

Then the new comments would be all the way at the bottom though; so there'd have to be a way to sort it by newest posts... sounds like a pain haha.

Hey guys/gals,

I'm a very serious undergrad doing 8 to 12 hours of studying LSAT a day, the rest is dedicated for sleep and school.

Shooting for a 170+

Let me know if anyone is in my area and wants to be as serious, or if someone wants to study online by doing the same LSAT tests, problems, comparing our answers/logic, etc.

English major.

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Wednesday, Jan 29 2014

mmiglio708

'Like'ing posts and why it would help.

I find myself often finding something very helpful within the comments and discussion for different lessons.

It would be nice if students could bump up / like / upvote / etc comments so that the most relevant and insightful comments/discussions can be seen.

A feature of this sort will help most later in the site's existence when there are hundreds or thousands of comments on one video.

Okay, so I'm far from a respectable source of knowledge on Law School admissions, but I know many of you have applied (or are already in).

Is anyone else finding it drop-dead incredible how responsive and accepting law schools are being lately?

I know that admission is down by 16%, but to give you all an idea: I have a 3.1 GPA and a 157 on the February LSAT. I've been getting emails and having very, VERY promising correspondence from schools that I don't even meet the 25th percentile for. How is this possible? I even had a great talk with the Dean of Admissions at the University of Virginia, and they're ranked 7 or so.

Now, granted, I did start two businesses, have a lot of extracurricular activities and did a lot for my community, however they didn't know all of that when they sent me an email and asked me to apply free of charge, or in some cases even offered me scholarships.

All that they knew about me was that I had a 3.1, a 157, and am Puerto Rican.

My best guess is that they need Puerto Ricans for affirmative action or something,or that the 16% drop in admissions this year had a much bigger impact than I thought it would.

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mmiglio708
Monday, Feb 10 2014

Anyways, long story short it looks like most people found the game to be the curve breaker of the LSAT.

For those of you that completed it without a problem, I congratulate you, excelling is the purpose of this course.

To the rest of us, I hope we get the scores we set out for ourselves or do better next time. :)

I'll be taking the June LSAT, so I'll see you guys and girls around.

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mmiglio708
Saturday, Feb 08 2014

My friend had three LR sections. Her logic game section also had the circular game, confirming that it is real.

Also, I feel like there was no easy logic game in that test... The first 3 were medium to medium-hard, and the circular one was REALLY F*cking hard and time consuming. I thought it was really unfair of them to do that to us in the real LG section.

My experimental LG section was normal, in that the first was easy, the second and fourth were mediums, and the third was pretty hard. However, the third had a serious grammar error so I knew it was an experimental :\...

It sucks that they don't do the LSAT curve per test, and they do it by whole years instead. Otherwise, we might have stood a chance. but I think our scores will suck now.

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mmiglio708
Saturday, Feb 08 2014

That LG with the [redacted] really screwed me though. ran out of time...

*edit* sorry for violating TOS, thank you for redacting part of the comment, lol..

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Saturday, Feb 08 2014

mmiglio708

February LSAT outcomes, thoughts, etc.

Many of us took the test today.

I have no idea how I did, I'm simply incapable of judging myself the way I usually can after doing a PT.

So, how do you all think you did?

If anyone needs help figuring out which section was experimental, I'd be happy to help.

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mmiglio708
Saturday, Feb 08 2014

Keep in mind you'll have adrenaline either on your side or against you, depending on how hard it hits you.

This seems to make or break people's focus on test day, and you cant really get the same sensation in a PT.

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mmiglio708
Friday, Feb 07 2014

Lol...

I was forced to take 2 days of break because I had an abundance of normal schoolwork i've been neglecting.. I just took a practice test today, and I literally had to stop mid-test because of how many I was missing...

I didn't take section 4. And in section 1, 2 and 3 I got a -35, which is lower than any whole-test grade I've ever done.

I have no idea what's wrong with me. Everything seems so much harder to understand and comprehend now. Every question in this test (PT62) was more or less difficult. I don't know if I'm still suffering from mental fatigue, if I'm temporarily burned out, if this test caught me off guard, or what...

One thing is for certain, my faith in doing well on Saturday is nonexistent.

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mmiglio708
Wednesday, Feb 05 2014

It seems like some, or many, of you may be older and more experienced than I am.

I am passionate about being an attorney, I do want a job, I would like 70k or more starting.

I don't know anyone. I'm graduating from my undergrad this May. I'm trying to start law school this August.

I was looking at making it into George Washington University, because I read somewhere that they have very high employment rates and a great program on intellectual property law.

Is there something that I might be overlooking? Is there a really good reason to wait a year, or to go into a specific area of law?

The thing I like about the IDEA of being an attorney is that it can allow me to be a source of knowledge to help others, and a functional, respectable member of society that has both security and power.

Am I being duped, though? Is this degree not worth $150k+ to go out of state and attend a top 25 law school? Is there really no need for lawyers, and if that's true, do you think there's room for new firms?

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Tuesday, Feb 04 2014

mmiglio708

Law Admissions Down ~16% for 2014

To: Everyone in the 7Sage community.

As some/most of us may know, law school numbers are down desperately. We all know that this is going to, most probably, lower the accepted GPA and LSAT scores across the board, and extend admissions deadlines.

However, what does the drop in law school students say for those of us that plan on being lawyers?

What are your educated thoughts? (Please be as credible as you can, so we don't get any completely unrealistic responses that take us off topic.)

I'm thinking there's two possibilities here.

The poor economy and panicky articles over the past 2 years has effectively scared a large amount of 0Ls from pursuing a career in law because they fear that the employment opportunities and average wage are not worth taking on between $100k-$250k in debt to attain a JD.

1) They are right, the law field is a bad place to be, and we are all entering a very insecure field. For most of us, entering law school may be a bad choice.

2) They were wrong, the bad economy and panicky articles were overdramatized, and due to the very large drop in admissions and, therefore, class sizes through law schools, most people who are trying to attain a JD NOW as opposed to later are going to ride a wave of success due to the increase in demand for lawyers. Likewise, the decrease in lawyers is going to have more schools accepting a wider variety of GPA/LSAT scores, increasing our odds at placing into the school of our choice, or a school we would usually likely not be eligible to attend.

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mmiglio708
Tuesday, Feb 04 2014

You have to purchase it as an addon.

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mmiglio708
Tuesday, Feb 04 2014

Yeah... no more adderal.

I'm taking a break today, this is the first LSAT thing I've looked at in the past 24 hours.

Not sure if it's a good idea, but it was one of the most common suggestions...

I'm going to take the February LSAT and apply to schools. My score, however, will determine whether or not I go to Law School right after I graduate, or if I wait a year and find something to do in the meantime...

I refuse to go to a school that isn't Tier 1, but I'm also doing late admission, so I really need a high LSAT score if I plan on getting into those schools (I'm thinking at least 160.)

So.... Yep. I have no questions or anything else to say at this point, lol.

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mmiglio708
Sunday, Feb 02 2014

;_; I'll do another PT Wednesday. Or maybe Tuesday.

Thank you for the morale booster.

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mmiglio708
Sunday, Feb 02 2014

Lol, I'm sorry you went through the trouble... I recently typed out a long question and a bunch of my reasoning that equated to a thousand words or so, only to discover the flaw in my reasoning at the very last sentence that I wrote..

backspace.

Thanks for the links

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mmiglio708
Sunday, Feb 02 2014

@ I answered A, because I was positive that the statement had a Main Conclusion followed by a Premise + Sub Conclusion. While I was compelled to pick B, I didn't understand it because I'd never encountered the words claim and explanation.

@ Name is Al I will review that lesson.

What do you mean by your #1 point? I switched the two sentences around and it still made sense to me. "Because x, then z. In the long run, y." or "In the long run, y. Because x, then z."

Is that the kind of flip you meant?

I see how you can convince me that it's a casual explanation, I just don't understand the relationship between Claim + Premise / Explanation + Conclusion.

How is a casual explanation different from a premise and conclusion?

Do casual explanations not make assumptions or draw connections?

Are casual explanations merely information and facts?

If casual explanations are just showing cause and effect, how do we know that the author is a credible source and that his cause and effect isnt making any assumptions, and do I care if he's credible or not?

What does "casual" explanation mean, and how is it different than a plain explanation?

@ I saw, in this same exam (prep test 56) the word sub conclusion used at least once. I don't understand why they're switching their terminology around so loosely. I understand that it is English, and English has many ways to throw up the same argument, but what I'm really trying to figure out is if the second sentence IS or ISN'T, 100%, a premise and conclusion.

If it's not, and it's just a claim and explanation, then this is some new terminology that I haven't seen on the LSAT thus far and must do research on.

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mmiglio708
Sunday, Feb 02 2014

Al, yes I see a pattern, at least for logic games. When there are more than 3 variables, it takes me much longer to complete.

For example: Students ABCDEFGH are assigned to groups I, J and K.

but then the second rule will say something like, if A is on team J, then team J is before team K. Introducing the fact that the order of the teams also matters, hence 3 variables (students, teams, placement.)

I missed every question in a game just like this one today...

As far as reading comprehension and LR goes, I'm just not taking the authors literally enough. I keep taking invitations to make assumptions, or even when I think I'm reading carefully I tend to miss a vital word such as "can" or "except."

This is all that I have learned about myself by taking today's PT and doing awful. Thank you for asking me that question so that I could type it all out and show myself, it helped put things into perspective.

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mmiglio708
Sunday, Feb 02 2014

1 day = 7 hours of sleep, 2-3 hours of classes, 2 hours of homework. 10-12 hours of studying LSAT. The remainder goes into showering/eating/travelling.

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Saturday, Feb 01 2014

mmiglio708

Dear 7Sage, I'm depressed.

These are my scores, as follows:

First ever score (no studying done, ever:) 155

Second Score: 158

Third Score: 161

Fourth Score: 164

Fifth Score: 157

Sixth Score: 153.

The following information is vitally important.

For my first to fifth scores, I did them all timed and proctored, and only did 4 section tests. Meaning I didn't add an additional section to replicate test-day. All of these tests were taken either in the late afternoon or the evening, alone.

For my sixth test, I wanted to simulate actual test day.

However, literally all of these things I don't normally do.

*note*I know JY says to get into a 2 month pattern, but I lack the time available. I started studying only 3 weeks ago, because I found out on January 10th that I was being forced to take the February LSAT due to overwhelming circumstances.*end note*

I woke up at 7:30, Saturday morning.

Made some normal breakfast, had coffee with sugar, swallowed 25mg of Adderal (bad idea? I read a story of a 150 scorer getting a 175 and the only difference was that he took some Adderal. I bought some, just to experiment. I am not normally on Adderal, but I used to take it as a child.)

Put all of my belongings, 4 penciles, a sharpener, etc. into a ziplock bag.

Got to the official test site where the February test will be taken next week, on time.

Sat down. Started playing the 5section proctor audio file.

The sections were LG LR LR break RC LRexperimental.

During the break, I stretched out, walked around, did one or 2 slow pushups, massaged my eyeballs, looked at my phone (im sorry, 15 minutes was a long time to wait doing nothing,) and then sat down for the last 3 minutes.

I did my writing portion and then scored my test.

My first 3 sections were about average, but I did especially poor on the Logic Games: -9, -7, -7.

My 4th section, RC, I did worse than I ever could imagine was possible for me. I'm an English major, I've been reading nonsense for 4 years, how could I score a -14 (out of 27 questions) on this section?...

For the 5th section, I got -6, a little better than average for LR.

I ignored the 5th experimental section score, and my resulting LSAT was a 153.

Worse than I did even before I began studying.

What the hell happened.... I want to give up.

Prest Test 56 - section 2 - Q25.

Question removed. Please see video for question:

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-56-section-2-question-25/

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Now, before I list the answers, please read my thought process so you can better understand where my head was at.

"In the long run... to use insecticides." --> Main Conclusion.

"Because insects... with insecticide use." --> Premise.

", farmers have to... to control insect pests." --> Sub Conclusion / Conclusion to the Above premise.

That's what I was thinking.

A.) It is the argument's main conclusion, but not its only conclusion.

B.) It is a CLAIM for which a causal EXPLANATION is provided and which itself is used as direct support for the argument's only conclusion.

C.) It is the argument's only conclusion.

D.) It is a claim that is used as direct support for an intermediary conclusion, which in turn is used as direct support for the argument's main conclusion.

E.) It identifies a phenomenom for which the argument's main conclusion offers a causal explanation.

*spoiler*

The second choice is the correct answer. Which implies that my labeling was wrong. The answer states that it was a claim (what i would consider to be a conclusion) and that it's accompanied by a "casual" (what the heck is that supposed to mean, LSAC,) "explanation," which is supposed to be the premise. It further states that this "claim" is used as direct support for the argument's ONLY CONCLUSION.

How is this the only conclusion!?? When the LSAT says Claim and Explanation in the answer choices or question stems, does it mean Conclusion and Premise or are these two phenomenon something different entirely?

I apologize if JY explained this in one of his lessons, but i seemed to have missed it and tracking it down seemed more time consuming than asking the forums.

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mmiglio708
Saturday, Feb 01 2014

What Madpanda says.

I think it would be less helpful to rely on the presumption that there may be a difference in formatting. The current format couldn't get much "tighter," so if you practice on that and you get used to little space, the extra space will only be advantageous on the day of the exam.

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