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Sunday, Nov 27 2016

@ if you could get someone to take a look a this question for me that would be really helpful. :)

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Sunday, Nov 27 2016

Let's Analyze this argument:

Conclusion: It is important for the maintenance of a healthy back, to exercise the muscles on opposite sides of the spine equally.

Premise 1: The muscles on opposite sides of the spine must pull equally in opposing directions to keep the back in proper alignment.

Sub-conclusion/Premise 2: Balanced muscle development is needed to maintain a healthy back.

This is a necessary assumption question. The answer will be one that, if false, would invalidate the argument. The answer choice may or may not be sufficient for the conclusion.

A) This is saying that equally well developed muscles ALONE are ENOUGH to keep the back in proper alignment.

Let's contradict this: equally well developed muscles ALONE are NOT ENOUGH to keep the back in proper alignment.

As you can see, this does not invalidate the argument. Even if equally well developed muscles are not SUFFICIENT for a healthy back, they may still be NECESSARY. I.e. there are other factors at play in keeping the back in proper alignment (posture, genetics, etc).

B) This is saying (unequal exercise of spine muscles) --> (Unbalanced Muscle Development) --> Unhealthy back.

Let's contradict this: Unequal exercise of spine muscles DOES NOT lead to unbalanced muscle development.

As you can see, the above would invalidate the argument. If unequal exercise of spine muscles didn't lead to unbalanced muscle development, why would it be important to equally exercise the muscles in the spine. The above absolutely HAS TO BE the case (it is necessary) for us to draw our conclusion.

Hope that helps!

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Sunday, Nov 27 2016

@ thanks for your help :)

@ or @ if you could that a look, that would be really helpful! This question is driving me crazy haha.

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Sunday, Nov 27 2016

@ thanks, that does make sense! I understand the concept of B occurring without A weakening the argument just "a little", but what confuses me is when there is a better answer choice available.

I know you haven't done PT 79 yet, but amongst the answer choices were 2 options

1. effect w/o cause

2. (In my opinion better) A does not cause B, but rather B causes A

Is it possible to have 2 answer choices that could conceivably weaken the argument? I was under the assumption this whole time that there would only be one.

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Sunday, Nov 27 2016

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Weakening Questions

I read the following (I think on one of the Manhattan prep forums) about weakening questions.

On weakening questions, when the argument posits a causal relationship, we seek an answer choice that does one of the following three things.

1. Provides an alternative cause

2. Provides an example of the presumed cause without the presumed effect

3. Provides an example of the presumed effect without the presumed cause.

I don't understand why/how 3 would weaken the argument, unless we are also assuming that if A causes B, then A is the ONLY thing that would cause B (i.e. A is necessary for B)

Can someone elaborate on this?

Also, on "most seriously weaken" questions, is it correct to think there will really be only one answer choice that weakens the argument? I am asking because of questions 21, section 1, on PT 79. Both answer choice A and E weaken the argumnet (According to the above), but E is clearly better.

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Friday, Nov 25 2016

@ thank you for the explanation!

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Wednesday, Nov 23 2016

Can someone elaborate on point 2?

(2) Assumption: usually involves a shift in scope like SA or NA questions (idea X -> idea Y). These types rely more on your intuition and answer choices will almost always address the jump.

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Sunday, Jan 22 2017

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Thank you! I now realize this relationship is completely context dependent. Your explanation is amazing!

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Sunday, Jan 22 2017

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Causation vs. Correlation vs. Conditionality

Hi All,

Does the below statement make sense? I am trying to get a big picture view of these 3 ideas.

CAUSATION --> PERFECT CORRELATION* ( ---) CONDITIONALITY

Causation implies Perfect Positive Correlation.

Correlation (regardless of strength) does not imply causation.

Causation implies Conditionality. I.e. If A causes B, we can also say A is sufficient for B).

Conditionality does not imply Causation. Just because A is sufficient for B, does not mean that A causes B. It could be, for example, that A

Perfect Correlation (and only perfect correlation) implies conditionality

Conditionality implies perfect correlation.

*I am assuming A ALWAYS causes B. Is this the case on the LSAT? Can we say that if A causes B, A always causes B?

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Friday, Jan 20 2017

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Causation Question Strategy

Would somebody mind looking at the strategy below and letting me know if it makes sense/I've included everything?

Thanks!

On weakening questions, when the argument posits a causal relationship, answer choice does one of the following:

Conclusion States: A Causes B

1. Provides an alternative cause (no competing cause) (C also Causes B).

2. 3rd competing cause (C causes both A and B)

3. Chronology inconsistent - B happened prior to A/Reversal of Cause and Effect

4. Competing Dataset --> Competing Results

5. Proof the entire occurrence was the result of Coincidence A/B

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6. Provides an example of the presumed cause without the presumed effect

7. Provides an example of the presumed effect without the presumed cause.

(Examples of weakening through correlation. Correlation can strengthen or weaken an argument, but is not sufficient support for an argument)

On strengthening questions, when the argument posits a causal relationship, answer choice does one of the following:

Conclusion States: A Causes B

1. Block an alternative cause/explanation (no competing cause)

2. Block 3rd competing cause NOT (C causes both A and B)

3. Chronology consistent - A happened prior to B/No reversal

4. Corroborating Dataset --> Corroborating Results

5. Block Coincidence A/B

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Monday, Jan 16 2017

Hi,

I can relate to this. I don't actually review LSAT material with my boyfriend, but we usually sit next to each other/in the same room and work in silence. We take breaks to eat together or go for walks. Sometimes, if I have a hard time understanding something, we talk through it together. I think it helps that my boyfriend has things to study for as well and tons of work to do.

Having said that, I personally find that explaining LSAT concepts to somebody completely unfamiliar with the exam is a waste of my time. Unless you are the very beginning of you prep, explaining basic concepts like conditional statements or argument structure is not going to be of much help. I've found myself wasting a good 30 minutes going over something basic just so I can talk through the advanced concept I'm trying to understand.

If you are the type of person that needs to study with someone, I'd find a study buddy- either online or in person. Also, encourage your significant other to study for something as well. If he is an professional field, is there a certification he can go for? Is there anything he can do to go above and beyond for work in his spare time? I'd make the most out of the fact that you are studying for your lsat. Your significant other should use this time to be productive as well.

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Sunday, Oct 16 2016

http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2009/04/steps-solving-weaken-logical-reasoning.html I found this really helpful!

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PT147.S1.Q21
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Tuesday, Jan 10 2017

I understand why E is correct, but can someone explain why A is wrong?

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Monday, Oct 10 2016

Thank you! I do think it could be due to the fact that I recently started tutoring. I think the act of explaining it to somebody else really helps solidify understanding.

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PT123.S3.Q16
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Wednesday, Nov 09 2016

Questions Stem: Most logically completes… so this is an argument full of premises and we want to understand where these premises are compelling us to believe.

The author here is a philosopher.

Context: Nations are not people. They have no thoughts or feelings and perform no actions. As a result they have no moral rights or responsibilities.

Argument:

Sub conclusion/Major Premise: No nation can survive unless many of its citizen attribute moral rights or responsibilities to it.

Premise: Why is the above true? Nothing but attributing moral rights/responsibilities to a national could prompt people to make the sacrifices national citizenship requires.

Obviously, then, a nation should be attributed moral rights/responsibilities.

A- It's not saying this. In fact it's saying that the belief a nation has moral rights is the ONLY thing that would allow a nation to survive.

B- Yes, taken together, this is the conclusion. Citizens have to have these beliefs. The author has stated these beliefs are literally false.

C- Maybe, sure. But not the main point.

D- Doesn't say this at all.

E- Doesn't say this at all.

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PT123.S2.Q8
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Wednesday, Nov 09 2016

Questions Stem: Most logically completes… so this is an argument full of premises and we want to understand what these premises are compelling us to believe.

Proponents of…okay right away this is context…

Context: Proponents of electric cars maintain that when technical problems are solved these cars will (1) be widely used and (2) result in an abatement of the environmental degradation caused by auto emissions.

AO: Now we get to the argument. The author is saying "wait it's not this simple! Unless we dam more rivers, because of the sources used to charge batteries in electric cars, the environmental damage will not be reduced as much as we think"

Okay, so conclusion will be something along the lines of

Thus, the electric car will cause more environmental damage than we think.

A- Yes, exactly this.

B- Not saying this

C - Saying opposite of this

D- We don't know if it will increase or reduce.

E- Have no idea (similar to D).

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PT116.S3.Q23
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Wednesday, Nov 09 2016

Context: Many different human hormones can by themselves raise glucose in blood.

Conclusion: The reason for this is probably a metabolic quirk.

Premises: To see this,

- Brain cells use only glucose

Sub conclusion: Thus, if blood glucose levels fall too low, brain cells will rapidly starve, leading to unconsciousness and death.

A- No- this is context. We want something that says the reason for this is probably the metabolic.

B - Yes, exactly

C- No, premise

D- Sub conclusion

E- No, not at all. This may be true but is not the main point of the argument.

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Sunday, Feb 05 2017

Does anyone remember how many questions were in the last game?

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Monday, Oct 03 2016

Thank you for all the replies! This was really motivating. I will just keep working at it and see how far I can get.

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Monday, Oct 03 2016

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Does everyone have a natural plateau score?

I have been studying for the LSAT for close to 5 months now. I don't know what my diagnostic score would be as I never took one. The first practice test I took, I scored around a 165, and I am now scoring in the 171-173 range. I took the LSAT in September 2016 and I am not confident I hit my target score of 173. I want to retake in December, but the question is - Should I aim higher? Is there a point in postponing until February? It's such a small score improvement that I think I am capable of scoring higher, but I do not want to waste another 3-4 months working at something where I really don't have a chance of improving much.

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