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Tuesday, Oct 21 2014

Interested as well! morgancyang@cai19930321867.com

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Tuesday, Sep 30 2014

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Another question about cancelling..sorry

Hi guys, I took my first LSAT this past Saturday aiming to break 170, but realistically, I think I probably scored more within the low-mid 160s. My target schools are Berkeley, UCLA, and NYU. I'm planning to retake the LSAT in December and I'm hoping to get in my application by the end of October. My question is whether it's better to apply with a cancelled LSAT score or whether it's better to apply with a low LSAT score (as compared to the medians at those three schools). Are there any disadvantages of applying with a low LSAT score? Will they not consider my application because of the low score? My GPA is 3.7 and I'm an international student (Canada), if that information is relevant. Thank you in advance for your help!

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Tuesday, Sep 23 2014

Thank you!

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Tuesday, Sep 23 2014

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Recent LG: Misc Games?

Hey guys, I've been hearing from various sources that pattern games have been popping up on the recent LSATs. However, I'm not sure what exactly a pattern game is. Could anybody refer me to some examples of pattern games? Tried googling already, but didn't find much :/ LSAT blog's classification page says PT 20 Game 3, and PT 23 Game 4 are pattern games. Just wanted to confirm and maybe find some other examples.

Also side note, I noticed that every PT question explanation vid has tagged keywords. Is there a search function on the site that lets you search for questions based on keywords?? That would be really helpful!

Thanks!

[Mod note: edited original title that read "Recent LG: Pattern Games?"]

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morgancyang101
Monday, Sep 15 2014

Adding on/clarifying:

I think answer choice B is confusing because the LSAT writers are counting on you confounding the ideas of generality and irrelevance. When you read Sydonie and Stephanie's arguments, you get the sense that Stephanie isn't quite addressing the same issue as Sydonie, and then reading answer choice B tricks you into thinking that it's generality that's the issue (Stephanie says that parents want schools to provide discipline, while Sydonie talks about differing beliefs about discipline, so it does seem to be the case that Stephanie's argument addresses something more general than Sydonie's), when really, it's the irrelevance of Stephanie's argument to Sydonie's argument. Stephanie is trying to make the case that Sydonie's conclusion is incorrect, but she doesn't address Sydonie's point.

It's like if somebody was like: People differ in their food preferences, so this cheesecake is bound to displease some people. And then somebody tried to counter this by saying: That's not true. Everybody likes food.

Both shitty arguments, as you can see.

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Monday, Sep 15 2014

I initially couldn't figure out why B is not correct either. Using the two-step checking method for flaw questions, I think I figured out why B is wrong. B is incorrect, because while Stephanie is addressing a more general issue than Sydonie is (descriptively accurate: yes), the fact that she's addressing a more general issue is not the flaw (describing the flaw: no).

Take this argument for example:

A: We should drive to school rather than walk, because school starts in 15 minutes, and if we walk, it will take an hour, but if we drive, we can get there in 10 minutes.

B: I disagree. We shouldn't drive to school, because driving is bad for the environment.

You could say that Person B is addressing a more general issue (the environment) than Person A is, but that by itself, is not why the argument is flawed. The argument is flawed because Person B is not countering Person A's argument. Yes, driving is bad for the environment; but Person A's argument that they should drive because otherwise they will be late still holds. To counter Person A's argument, Person B would need to say something like: "We shouldn't drive to school, because driving is bad for the environment, and doing what's best for the environment takes priority over being on time for class." Or something like that.

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