@553962 said:

LSAT fee waiver is vital resource for low-income individuals such as me.

Thank you for mentioning that. I almost missed that.

They could have rejected you, but instead they decided to move you into the RD pile. It is not the best outcome, but not the worst.

Some will ask you to send it (UPENN did) others will not wait and will review your application. I, however, did not instruct them to wait. I feel very confident my GPA will go up so I will push to have it in before they make any decisions regarding my application. I don't think my Gpa going up by .3 or .4 will make the biggest difference lol

Are you an URM?

or at least looks at both instead of just the highest.

> @denis206 said:

> > @annabower28563 said:

> > > @denis206 said:

> > > @asher259 said:

> > > TLS gives me way too much anxiety so I try to stay away, but let us know if you find anything @denis206! I've briefly looked at Asha's blog to see if she specifically says anything about it but have yet not seen anything other than the "we look at everything" response. Although I do agree with what is said above about differentiating candidates etc. I just wasn't sure if this was speculation or related to something specific that was said to make it definitive.

> > >

> > >

> > > Haha! Yeah TLS has taught me to have thick skin. I consider it training for being a lawyer, lol. I don't think it is pure speculation, no. I personally think (and this is my opinion) that no retake is ever going to look good all things being equal, against a candidate that only took it once. That said, I think retakes matter much less than the weight we are assigning them in this thread.

> > >

> > > I looked and looked yesterday and cannot find anything specifically on Asha or YLS saying publicly that retakes specifically hurt you. I'll defer judgement until we see if @jhaldy10325 infiltrated can find that link. (Part of me does remember seeing something about it, but the TLS orthodoxy has infiltrated my mind so deep, at this point I might retake a 179, lol)

> > >

> > > ETA:

> > >

> > > After reading some more on it, and what admissions consultants had to say about it, I stand by what I already said, that it isn't helpful to have retakes. Like you and others have said, the kid who got a 175 on try one is probably going to be looked at more favorably than the kid who scored it on try 2. When every candidate has a 3.9+ and 173+ with hella extracurriculars, great PS/LOR; how else can one differentiate who to admit? I think the same is true for a lot of top schools....

> >

> > Hey Alex, any update on this?

>

> Hey Jason,

>

> This thread is from last year, so I don't exactly remember what the specific discussion was regarding. What are you looking for an update on specifically?

Hey Alex,

I was wondering if anyone found a source that says Yale averages your LSAT scores.

> @denis206 said:

> @asher259 said:

> TLS gives me way too much anxiety so I try to stay away, but let us know if you find anything @denis206! I've briefly looked at Asha's blog to see if she specifically says anything about it but have yet not seen anything other than the "we look at everything" response. Although I do agree with what is said above about differentiating candidates etc. I just wasn't sure if this was speculation or related to something specific that was said to make it definitive.

>

>

> Haha! Yeah TLS has taught me to have thick skin. I consider it training for being a lawyer, lol. I don't think it is pure speculation, no. I personally think (and this is my opinion) that no retake is ever going to look good all things being equal, against a candidate that only took it once. That said, I think retakes matter much less than the weight we are assigning them in this thread.

>

> I looked and looked yesterday and cannot find anything specifically on Asha or YLS saying publicly that retakes specifically hurt you. I'll defer judgement until we see if @jhaldy10325 infiltrated can find that link. (Part of me does remember seeing something about it, but the TLS orthodoxy has infiltrated my mind so deep, at this point I might retake a 179, lol)

>

> ETA:

>

> After reading some more on it, and what admissions consultants had to say about it, I stand by what I already said, that it isn't helpful to have retakes. Like you and others have said, the kid who got a 175 on try one is probably going to be looked at more favorably than the kid who scored it on try 2. When every candidate has a 3.9+ and 173+ with hella extracurriculars, great PS/LOR; how else can one differentiate who to admit? I think the same is true for a lot of top schools....

Hey Alex, any update on this?

> @ngir1293288 said:

> Do you have the link to where she said that? I have been searching for 20 minutes trying to find where/if she said that. I checked her blog, a few interviews, and TLS...

>

> I couldn't find the source. I'm almost positive I read/watched Asha say this and it isn't just tls heresay. I'll keep looking.

Any update on this?

@alstadtjacob243 said:

@mta7210 said:

@alstadtjacob243 said:

I started off with a 144 practice exam score and I am now hitting high 160's low 170's. I took the real thing in September and scored in the mid-160's.

I share your story. I love the positivity.

Same diagnostic as me. How long have you been studying for?

@mta7210

I studied off and on between February through May, and then about 5-6 days a week for 6-8 hours until the June LSAT. I didn't think I studied enough so I didn't sit for it. I prepped for the Sept exam over the summer studying an average of 4 hours a day 5 days a week (2 in the morning and 2 at night) while taking the Blueprint LSAT course.

I was working full-time, so I wish I could have studied more and that is why I am taking it one final time in December. I fixed my weaknesses and I feel very comfortable.

All in All, 6 months for Sept exam and 2 months from Sept to the Dec exam.

That is a very impressive accomplishment. I'm aiming for the range you are in. My studying has been quite a bit more spread out than yours, so I'll definitely need more time to get where you are at right now.

Best of luck to ya, @mta7210 .

You too, bud.

@sarahkriekle448 said:

@mta7210 how long were you studying before you saw a change in your score ? if you dont mind me asking

Hi Marie,

I struggled at first and questioned myself and my abilities. For about 2 months, I hovered in the low 150s high 140s. I then inched into the mid 150's 3 months in. By the time June came around (4 months of on and off studying) I was by the high 150's low 160's (158-162).

Then over the summer I lurked around the 7sage forum's and used a prep course and saw my score rise to the mid-160's. By September it was ranging between 165-170. I scored in that range on the real exam.

I took 1 month off after the Sept exam (was waiting on my score). I saw my score and said I can do better and fixed what I knew was my weaknesses. I started scoring in the 170's by mid October/early November. I just took a PT yesterday and it was in the high 160's.

This has been a rollercoaster of a journey. I gave up and then I was reminded I can't give up. I saw my score go up and down. It was truly an experience that contributed to my personal growth.

It is a very learnable exam. One big take away is that its not enough to practice, you need good, correct practice. Find someone who is as motivated (or even more motivated) as you to talk about your fears, your aspirations, and everything that sits in between.

Please excuse my spelling and syntax.

@alstadtjacob243 said:

I started off with a 144 practice exam score and I am now hitting high 160's low 170's. I took the real thing in September and scored in the mid-160's.

I share your story. I love the positivity.

Same diagnostic as me. How long have you been studying for?

@mta7210

I studied off and on between February through May, and then about 5-6 days a week for 6-8 hours until the June LSAT. I didn't think I studied enough so I didn't sit for it. I prepped for the Sept exam over the summer studying an average of 4 hours a day 5 days a week (2 in the morning and 2 at night) while taking the Blueprint LSAT course.

I was working full-time, so I wish I could have studied more and that is why I am taking it one final time in December. I fixed my weaknesses and I feel very comfortable.

All in All, 6 months for Sept exam and 2 months from Sept to the Dec exam.

I started off with a 144 practice exam score and I am now hitting high 160's low 170's. I took the real thing in September and scored in the mid-160's.

I share your story. I love the positivity.

@gregoryalexanderdevine723 said:

Last year the first round of acceptances came the week before Christmas. I'm guessing it will be around the same time this year.

Good luck!

Thank you, Alex.

I also have a similar question:

I applied with my Sept score and did not mention that I will take the Dec LSAT. The reason being: I am registered but I am not sure if I want to sit for it, so I might withdraw. Some schools have already interviewed me and they made no mention of my December LSAT.

Worst case scenario: If my score goes down will it negatively impact my application??

I know they only report the highest score, but I am looking for some insight to this. Please mention your source too. Sorry, I am skeptical because I have received several different, ambiguous responses to this.

Any recommendations?

@leahbeuk911 said:

As Leah said, it is a very good sign, especially so early in the cycle.

They get about 5,500 applications, and end up interviewing roughly1,300. They offer admission to 900 applicants. So you're in a great position. Congrats!

Hi Allez,

It is great to know the numbers and I appreciate the insight. I am cognizant, however, that I may fall into the 400 who are interviewed but are rejected/waitlisted.

You are greatly appreciated. I am wishing you the best in your endeavors.

@cocozhang9950157 said:

You need to be interviewed in order to get in. But it is not the case that whoever gets interviewed first gets admitted first. I was interviewed in early February last cycle but was only admitted at the end of March. But seems like you are in the first interview group! My friend was interviewed last year in the first group and was admitted before Christmas.

Hi Coco,

Thank you for keeping me grounded and giving a great response, I appreciate it. I understand that this is by no means a guarantee of admissions and I come very well fall into that 25% who are not admitted, however, it is good to know this information.

You are greatly appreciated.

@leahbeuk911 said:

Yes! That's a step a lot of folks don't make it to. From what I've read, that maybe puts you like 75% chance of admission. Not a done deal, but significant chances.

Congratulations!

Hey Leah,

Thank you for the quick reply. The possible 3-month wait has already gotten to me, haha. I appreciate your insight.

@zil020511522 said:

Hello. The female who hosts these videos is a Harvard law graduate and she gives tips/information about the application process. The particular link I provided addresses the interview. Hope this helps.

See if this will help:

Brazil, this video was very helpful. Thank you again

@samanthaashley92715 said:

No idea but omg congrats! Seriously. I hope everyone you care about is crazy proud of you.

They are and your positive energy was much needed and greatly appreciated! Thank you, Samantha!

Thank you so much! I used all of these resources and your comments were really helpful.