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I've done 70, 73 , 69, 68, 66 before. Today I did 71, and my score dropped by 6 points! I really don't know why and don't know what to do.
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nackasha496
Monday, Jan 25 2016
Thank you @ and @ :) I need to see everything by the 20 minute mark. How? Do you suggest doing couple of questions from each game then come back to finish them later?
Once I hit the 20 minute mark, even that I have 15 minutes, I start to panic. When I hit the 30 minutes, I just flip. Especially if I am not half way through my fourth game.
I have been following your strategy for some months now. It works very well, especially at the beginning when I used to make mistakes. But now this timing problem is killing me.
Thank you all
nackasha496
Monday, Jan 25 2016
@ , is there a situation where you say, oh, let me jump to the questions right away before trying to internalize the rules? I usually take some time to understand the rules, decide whether I should split or not, and try to make some hypothetical examples on how the rules will interact. Afterwards I start doing the game. With this, I usually spend at least 3 minutes. The questions sometimes flyby. But sometimes I regret spending this set up time because the questions wouldn't really need it.
I feel that my enemy is grouping. It is not like I don't know how to solve it, but my stupid brain doesn't seem to make the inferences as fast as sequencing. I now printed all grouping games and doing one by one (again).
nackasha496
Monday, Jan 25 2016
Hello
@ thank you. I like your idea, but would you skip the game if you didn't finish it?
@ thank you very much. True, but I see most of the time is spent up front trying to digest the rules. So if I know the game well, then that setup wouldn't take that much time. Once I setup the game and familiarize myself with the rules, the questions go by really fast. For example, I did PT66 today. I finished first second and fourth game then I was left for 5 minutes for the third game. By the time I finished the setup and learning the rules, the time was over. I couldn't finish more than 2 questions. Even though the questions were flying by.
nackasha496
Sunday, Jan 24 2016
Thank you very much. Do you suggest on keep doing these games even if I feel that I memorizing them (foolproof method)?
The thing is, I've been at this stage for some months now!
Hello,
I have been having this problem for some months now. I can't finish 4 games. I finish three games and won't have more than 3 minutes on my fourth game. I don't go in sequence. I usually tackle the sequencing ones or the ones that seem easier first.
I have done all the games until PT39. I've done many of them multiple times as well. But I don't seem to be able to break this wall. I usually finish two games within 12 minutes.
I noticed that grouping questions drain a lot of my time. Should I just practise this type of questions more?
Please, I very appreciate your input,
nackasha496
Tuesday, Sep 22 2015
That's great. Thank you very much @ . Talk next Wednesday then.
nackasha496
Tuesday, Sep 22 2015
Hi @ , apart from tomorrow, when is the next BR group meeting and what PT would it be? I wish to join, but I can't make it tomorrow. Thank you for your work.
Hello, I am having a trouble understanding this rule:
H occupies the aisle seat immediately behind G's aisle seat. Why are we putting G in the aisle seat? What about this:
3 _ H
2 G _
1 _ _
Isn't H still immediately behind G's aisle seat?
Thank you
nackasha496
Tuesday, Oct 20 2015
So if you drill by section, would you eventually be able to see the patterns in each question type? I keep jumping between the two ideas: drill by type versus by section.
nackasha496
Saturday, Sep 19 2015
Thank you all. @ @ , are you serious? I may disagree that having an accent can have any advantage to be honest :)
nackasha496
Friday, Sep 18 2015
Thank you very much all. I very appreciate it. @ also suggested listening to audiobook, which I am doing now. Before I started studying for the LSAT, in other words when I had more time, I used to read novels. And a lot of that. But that has nothing to do with understanding RC :(.
Does it happen to you that you read an LR stimulus or RC paragraph and say: what the hell did I just read?
nackasha496
Friday, Sep 18 2015
Hi @ , true. No strategy intended. I didn't get a response when I posted in the afternoon so I posted in TLS afterwards in the evening.
I am probably targeting a very small group with my this question. Sorry to all 7sagers who may understand my intention differently.
Hello Folks,
If you check my posts, I have timing problems. When I do the test untimed, I get more than 20 points higher (160s) than the timed test. Any input is very appreciated.
If you check my posts, most topics are worries about burning questions. It is usually mentioned not to burn PTs from 38+ until you drill previous questions and know the material well. This makes great sense to me. Here is my worry: let's take Cambridge Main Point question type as an example. There are 67 questions in the package. So what does keep drilling mean? I can finish these question in couple of days. How can I drill Main Point questions afterwards?
Thank you
So I started preparing for LSAT recently (last week), and I have bought the 3 bibles along with previous PTs.
What's your opinion about the bibles?
Is it true that the bibles are a waste of time? That's what I concluded from several people who studied the bibles then found out about 7sage. I consider myself lucky to find 7sage at an early stage.
I am really confused at this stage. My current thoughts are to study with the bible for the first couple of months then jump to 7sage buying the starter package(3 months) but, of course, there are worries along with that including getting confused with different approaches, burning some tests, wasting time with powerscore.
Your input is greatly appreciated.
Last thing, I am planning to write it in June 2015.
nackasha496
Thursday, May 14 2015
Hey @ , I read the pinned thread now. I would love to be in. As long as I will be done with then curriculum then I can join you :)
Hello Folks,
Title says it all. I am around 75% of the curriculum and haven't done any PTs apart from my diagnostic. Do you suggest doing some or wait until I finish the curriculum. Also, I really feel that I forgot so many things already :(
Thank you in advance :)
nackasha496
Friday, Nov 13 2015
@ and @ thank you both again and again for all you help :) @ , I have 26 fresh ones left.
nackasha496
Friday, Nov 13 2015
Thank you @ :) As for the BR, so am I not the only one who spends that much time? I always thought when people BR, they spend let's say only 2-3 minutes instead of 1:20 minutes which is allocated in timed condition.
nackasha496
Friday, Nov 13 2015
Thank you all very much for your input. I will stop PTing and head back to the curriculum again. When I went through the curriculum second time, I didn't watch all JY's solution for the problem sets. I will do that this time. Thank you :)
nackasha496
Friday, Nov 13 2015
Hello, thank you. I usually take a lot time during BR. I take around 3 hours per section. That includes solving and checking the answers. I think this is the problem, right?
During BR, I make sure that I understand the stimulus completely. I think that's a wrong thing to do. Sometimes I spend more than 5-10 minutes per question. However, during timed PT, I just roughly understand the stimulus.
A dumb question, do you fully understand the stimulus when you do a timed PT? Sorry, it is a dumb question, but I am dumb.
I tried two methods, one is by trying to go over as many questions as possible to collect the easy ones. But what happened is that I lost accuracy. I didn't do well. I was averaging 12 wrong per LR section. Today I tried to spend as much time as I need per question and was thinking even if I leave 5-6 questions then I would still be better than what I am at now. Nope, it still didn't work.
@ , I am afraid that I am wasting PTs too. I am rushing up during PT and panicking too that I don't understand the stimulus.
Hello folks,
Here it is me whining again. When I BR, I score in the 160s but when I do timed PT, I can't pass the 146-147. I did most of 7Sage's video twice, and I am redoing The Trainer again now. I really don't know what to do any more. I feel (which probably wrong) that I know the material. Currently I am doing two PTs a week, and I BR after every PT.
I improved by 10 points since I started last December. My diagnostic was a horrible 130's yet my current score is still horrible!
Please, I need your advice :)
I want to establish a practising habit. I know that later on I will be doing proctored PTs with BR, and this will be on PTs of 38+. Apart from that, when am I to do timed questions?
Let's say I am studying inference, after reading the theory, I will be doing inference questions from LSAT (1-38). Do you advise of doing these ones timed or not timed? I was initially thinking of doing them not timed to digest the concept well. What if after doing that, I find myself to be very bad with timing? Also when do you advice of doing full sections instead of categorized sections? and will that be timed or not timed?
I don't want to burn precious questions.
Many thanks
nackasha496
Monday, Oct 12 2015
Thank you very much @ and @ . I will drill flaw by question. I didn't know that I can select what PT to include in the analytics, so thank you for that. I selected the last 5 and I apparently suck at flaw questions :( It is 51% for the last 5 while it is 40% for the whole 10. Still bad but at least some tiny improvement.
Quick question: the analytics doesn't reflect your BR, right?
By today I finished 10 PTs. LSAT Analytics reads that my accuracy in Flaw is 40% ! I was planning to do section by section drilling but after seeing this number I thought I probably need to drill Flaw type questions from the Cambridge Bundle. What do you say?
I think that I am good at Flaw questions especially after finishing The Trainer, but still this what LSAT Analytics shows. The number is reflecting older PTs which were taken before reading The Trainer. My worst types are NA and Flaw.
Thank you very much
nackasha496
Friday, Sep 11 2015
Thank you very much @ and @ . I was doing PTs in order but now will be skipping a 10 then repeat, what do you say? Like I will be doing 41, 51, 61, 71 then 42 etc etc. Am I wasting PTs this way? I feel I still need to hone down fundamental so I am a bit worried.
nackasha496
Saturday, Jul 11 2015
Thank you @ and @ so I think you are leading me in the right direction as probably I am confused about something. I am not talking about Flaw/Descriptive Weakening question type in particular, I am talking about finding the flaw in every questions regardless whether it is strengthen, weaken, etc. Mike Kim starts with finding the flaw in every question and so as J.Y. says that every argument in the LSAT has a flaw. So I am talking about this flaw.
Finding a flaw in every question or finding the flaw in Flaw/Descriptive Weakening questions is the same, isn't it? Let's say, is the question flaw in a weakening question would lie within the 19 types the @ mentioned? Or these are only for the Flaw/Descriptive Weakening question?
Up until now I was assuming they are the same and that's why I started drilling Flaw type in Cambridge because I thought improving in this one would improve everything else.
nackasha496
Friday, Sep 11 2015
Thank you @
Thank you @ :) I will do that on my next PT. If I can circle less than 100 questions then that's a win ;) Hopefully the number will go down gradually.
Hello All,
I finished 7Sage's curriculum and now working on The Trainer. I see how they complement each other. I have an essential question and very appreciate your input. I am having difficulties finding the flaw after isolating the argument.
After you isolate the argument, do you sit and critically think of a scenario on when this premise doesn't support this conclusion? J.Y. does it all the time and so as Mike Kim, but I fail to do so. Most of the times I rely on the answer choices to lead me on the line of thoughts.
Using my small brain to come up with a dumb example:
"Louis is carrying a cup of water; hence, he is thirsty."
How would you go about the thought process?
The way I try to approach questions:
1- I think: carrying a cup of water doesn't mean he is thirsty (I just try to fail the argument).
2- Why the hell is he carrying a cup of water then? Ummmm, in my case I stop at this stage most of the time. Do you guys think: Oh he probably wants to water the plants. (I don't usually come up with a scenario and even when I come it is in many cases wrong.
I bought Cambridge LR recently and started with Flaw questions. I am doing them untimed and trying to stay on each question many minutes to dissect it inside out, but I think this is wrong too. I am not supposed to pay a lot of attention to the context info but concentrate of the argument only.
I very appreciate your help
I usually take a timed PT and then do the whole PT again untimed (BR all questions). Afterwards I review the answers for all questions using LSAT Analytics. For explanations, I use JY's videos for the questions I got wrong in the BR, and I use Manhattan for the questions I got right. This process is taking hours upon hours.
I want to do 2 PTs a week but that's not happening with this process with a 3-4 hours/day LSAT study time allocation. I also desire to drill LR and follow @pacifico LG drilling technique.
Your advice is very appreciated
Hello,
I will (hopefully) write June's LSAT. From the schedule in 7sage and help from other folks in 7sage, I will be doing recent PTs (35+) timed and BR towards the end of my prep. My question is, now, and during reading prep material, what can I prepare with? I learned I should do that with the earlier PTs (35-), but how?
In other words, I will be studying weaken questions, strengthen question, assumptions, cause and effect etc, but how would I practice my understanding?
Many thanks
nackasha496
Thursday, Jun 04 2015
That's great, thank you, and time is good. I was thinking of doing just odd or even PTs as Oct will be my first time taking the LSAT. So in case I don't do well I will have some fresh PTs to work on for December. What do you say?
See probably I will come in either Weds or Sats.
Hello,
I will start studying for June's test. Following the starter schedule, it says that I do full tests at the end of my prep i.e. last some weeks. My question, how relevant are the older tests? let's say 19's or early 2000's? When it says to practise a section, which year am I to choose and which ones do I leave for the full exam? I assume that the sections I chose for training shouldn't be part of the full exam.
Good luck to all Saturday's writers.
nackasha496
Sunday, Aug 02 2015
@ thank you :) my BR is usually in 159-160 but my actual test score is too low (embarrassing 140 :( ) .
@ thank you very much. That's a great wake up slap. I very appreciate it. I will keep swimming. I know nothing can change my mind about law school.
Thank you very much @.hopkins . I didn't know that I need that many PTs :). Do you suggest joining your BR skype? Should I stop PTing and do more of drilling now? I am scared that I am wasting these PTs. What do you say?
Thank you @ , do you use sections from olders PTs?
Thank you all for the encouragement. I will keep swimming.
nackasha496
Tuesday, Feb 02 2016
Thank you very much all. I will do PT75 tomorrow but I won't score it :)
Hello all,
So here I am whining again. I started PTing from PT36 and now I am at PT39. Between PT38 and PT39, I did 50 questions of Flaw and 50 questions of NA from Cambridge, and I got most, if not all, correct.
My score on PT39 went down by 6 points from PT38. I am devastated and don't know what to do. There are so many great stories in this forum but I see that might not be applicable to me. I am trying and trying but I just can't see improvement. I seriously want to cry while writing this message.
I am drilling but I am not improving. When I BR, I do way better, duh!
Be honest, is it possible that there are people who can never improve in this test?
Thank you very much. I will keep swimming :)