Yeah im with @ iv seen major admittance to splitters in wustl. And some with large money. With a high LSAT score there is alot of opportunity
It means a flaw in an argument that we see many times throughout tests for example we see the author confuses necessity and sufficiency all the time so I would note this in the effort that I realize it faster the next time I see it
this applies to all strengthen. weaken flaw and SA questions and very often for NA questions
I really think the CC is good make flash cards and go through them for a couple of days 2× times a day.
Also make it a habit to employ identifying cookie cutter flaws during BR. many LSAT questions repeat but w different words. you will start to notice patterns in Flaws and make sure to write it down every time.
also during my own personal BR I write down the conclusion first and than work backwards to the premise no matter the structure it presents itself in the stimulus this has helped me loads.
I write:
conclusion
why?
Premise:
flaw:
and than I analyze the AC.
this brought me from -6/-7 to around -3.
hope this helps
I think this is something that many people don't fully come to but once you realize that every flaw, weaken, strengthen, SA are the same, .A flaw ask you to speak out the problem, A weaken asks you to actually identify the flaw and expose it with a scenario. every strengthen question asks you to shore up the flaw in the argument. and SA questions ask you to find the link between premise and conclusion which is a flaw.
Memorizing common flaws will help you with at least 3 of the 4 above and is a game changer for speed and accuracy
hi,
yeah LR is a very complicated section. There is a lot more going on throughout an LR section then LG and even RC. I would appreciate if you could give a little more background. Do you struggle with every LR type or just a a few specific question types?
for myself what has brought me down to consistently missing 1-2 was memorizing common flaws and getting down formal logic.
when it comes to structure it helps if you zero in on what's important i.e. if it's a MP I just look towards which direction the structure of the stimulus is headed.
If it's a flaw, we want to isolate exactly why the premises don't logically lead to the conclusion.
I would tell you that if you have trouble identifying conclusion and premises you should revisit the Grammar section of the CC and perhaps the LR section on Main Conclusions.
hope some of this helps
@ as always your insights are much appreciated. I agree with you about being disappointed with this question. Throughout my lsat journey i have become sensitive to what assumptions the test allows for. And i have run into questions that would clearly allow this sort of assumption. But then in this question it hinges on not allowing that assumption. Either way. Its a good learning point even though i dont think there is another question this nitpicky. Thank you
I wanted to get the community's concensus on this question.
[A] after an intense BR is wrong, i beleive, bc the proponents of papercrete dont ever claim that its promising for small scale projects. They just beleive its promising for large builidings. Thoughts?
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I start by only going over questions that i circled. I write out conclusion and premises. I then locate the problem and try to fit it in a cookiecutter format. After i locate the AC i think is correct i compare that to what i chose on the timed test. And if its different i write out why i changed AC and, if applicable, my faulty reasoning. If my BR choice matches my actual choice. I write out why i had any doubt to the correct Answer. I then go through ALL the questions from the whole test and fit them into a cookiecutter mold if possible. I make sure to go through ALL the AC and clearly articulate why they are wrong or right. I then mark the test. And look at what i got wrong. I then repeat the BR process over again using LSATHACKS or 7sage explanations for all the questions on the test. I then enter anything i got wrong into a spreadsheet. And anything i circled i take a picture of on my phone and move it into an LSAT folder. Which i review a week later.
Havent hit it on test day yet. But it took me around 11 months to break into the 173 range. And i still drop to a 168-169 every 3/4 tests. My diag was 147
Hey @ i believe it was pt67 s2 q19 AC (E) employs "should"
If the stimulus is formal logic and does not mention the word "should" and an AC is almost identical but uses the word "should" [i.e. "A" should be exercised only to "B" or to "C"] is this enough to disqualify it?
IMO it should be enough bc if the AC continues saying we have "A" and its not "B" therefore conclude = "C" this is not 100% bc maybe the person is not doing what he "should" do
Is my line of reasoning false?
@ i dont see why the attorneys i brought are any more anecdotal than the ones you spoke to. I didnt clarify in my post but none of them work in boutique firms and are all pretty intelligent people (they got full scholarships).
They became pedigreed by the schools they went to and when they wanted to move firms they could not bc of (the claimed) the school they went to.
P.s. you could be 100% right, and that they are having a hard time is unrelated to what school they went to. But i have no reason to beleive that they arent being honest with me. And im just trying to look at it objectively
Yeah i am inclined to agree with @ i know this is anecdotal but i know 3 lawyers that went to university of Baltimore a couple years ago with full schollys and are still suffering bc of this decision. But i know another lawyer who attended that very same school and is extremely successful.
My point is that everyone has a slightly different experience and is afforded different opportunities and by attending a top school one can maximize his chances of opportunity and, somewhat minimize the threat.
But you are definitely correct in that people should not run into schools blindly just bc of their relative ranking
I visited the D.C law fair yesterday and struck up a conversation with the assistant head of admissions at a t14 school, we have been emailing back and forth and i was wondering what the chances are that she will get a look at my application. What do you think? Does everyone on the board of admissions see an application?
Hi, so I would tell you that unless the school is Yale or possibly Stanford I doubt they will average your scores. It is known that almost no schools really average bc it is against there better interest. All schools are obsessed with their rankings with the US news and it is there prerogative to only report the highest score of their applicants. All this said I doubt you have to worry abt scoring a 175. would you mind telling me what the schools average is ?
I figure that 3 safety schools and 4 semi reach schools are enough for me, what about you?
@ thanks! Yeah my parents are really amazing. Im blessed to have them. My mom moves her beds out of their room when the synagogue gets packed to make more room. I dont know how she does it lol
I am trying to sink my teeth deep into RC and i am starting to realize i dont have a solid understanding of what every question type requires
Author inference questions (which view would the author most likely agree with)
Is this a MBT? Or more like an MSS?
Is the answer in the passage?
i took it abroad and had a better experience then in the states it was super chilled and the Procters were great
Do you by any chance know the different Max lengths for the T14 schools?
it would seem that many schools have a 2 page limit for the personal statement. Do you guys think i schools will care if i were to make the margins abit bigger to accommodate a bit of a longer essay? i dont think they need to follow a specific format APA..etc, it would seem the only requirement is double space
Apart from the schools that specify you have to be a URM. I know that some schools leave the prompt for a diversity statement open.
I wanted to get the concensus of what you guys think about this justifying a diversity statement.
I grew up ( and currently reside) in a home that doubles as a synagogue. For the past 14 yrs my father has been the preacher in a synogogue that is the back half of my house. I have cleaned it every week and do the general maintenance on it (painting,lights, yada yada) for the past 14 yrs ( i am only 22 so i can definitely say it has been a huge part of the majority of my life). P.s. i do this all for free. I dont get paid at all for any of this. I do it as a community service
Waking up in the morning to find congregation members traipsing through my house to use my bathroom is part of my M.O. lol
The reason i am considering writing a statement for this is that i beleive it has really affected who i am today as a person and that it has had an affect on my future career goals,( to help others) AND that I will add a different dimension of diversity to a university
P.p.s i am not writing this to gain anyones respect or to blow my own horn. I would really appreciate your honest input. Be brutal.
Thanks,
Nathaniel
Hey sagers,
I have finally come to the conclusion that i need some help w/ taking my RC to the next level. I am averaging -5 per section but its prettly volatile and i can get as little as 2 wrong or as many as 8. Who would you suggest as a tutor for RC methods and time management
So after taking the december LSAT and underscoring. I have resolved to get my PT average from 172 to 175+ my sectional scores for the 2 most recent tests i have taken have been:
PT53/ LR -1 LR -2 LG -0 RC -6
J07/ LR -2 LR - 2 LG -1 RC -6
Clearly the only thing holding me back from a 175- is my RC
I am really struggling for a way to work on my weakness in RC. LR and LG are so rote and systematic in the way that we approuch improving. However RC is a completely different animal. I dont really have a sectional strategy apart from reading for structure and keeping my eyes on the MP. I am a slow reader so i spend around 4 minutes on the passage and 3.5 to 4.5 on the questions. Any advice from slower readers like myself would be much appreciated
so sorry about your ordeal. i had a really bad testing condition problem on my LSAT in September and after contacting LSAC they allowed me extra time to cancel and included a letter in my file confirming the story i had told, which will go to the schools along with the cancellation. best of luck
So i think i have a pretty good understanding of the difference between an analogy and an example. But i ran across a question in LR that hinged on the difference [PT53.S3.Q24] and although i chose the correct answer i had to think for an extra few seconds about it. I wanted to ask if anyone could draw a binary cut between them. So i dont find myself second guessing again.
when taking timed PTS DO NOT PAUSE THE TIMER for anything. shut your phone off. try and condition yourself for what it will b like on test day
Can i get anyones take on this one, i dont really understand the argument, or the flaw
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-4-question-24/
Haha. Wow good for you that you don't watch TV, your automatically 10× more productive than I am
Abit burnt out of studying and thought I would share this during my 15 break lol
I was just rewatching suits and when rachel got her rejection letter from Harvard I realized that Sheila really must have held it against loius even though she claimed she didnt. Rachel had a 172 , I'm assuming a stellar GPA from a top undergrad and she is a URM.
I'm no conspiracy theorist but.....
hey guys, sorry i completely forgot to mention that the real impetus for building the gym was that my academy had 120 guys in it that all needed a gym but were unsuccessful in soliciting the school to build one. everyone in the school used the gym free of charge and i still hear from people there that they use it daily
@ @ pretty funny post but pretty sure its a bot
i was doing some brainstorming on ideas for my personal statement
and wanted to get the communities take on them.
i studied abroad in the middle east for 3 yrs and the academy i studied in lacked a gym . the closest gym to us was about an hour away and exorbitantly expensive. i am a fitness fanatic and after a year of working out in my room with whatever objects i could use as weights i decided that this has to end. i went to the school and petitioned them to give me a room in the dormitory to use as a gym, after many long arguments, they agreed to give me a small room as long as the school would have no expenses from the gym. I then went out and fundraised money for gym equipment and new flooring. i was able to raise a few thousand dollars. i travelled 2 hrs to closest gym supplier and purchased whatever machinery and weights we could afford and the flooring, they shipped it to the academy. and i spent a week installing the flooring myself and building all the equipment, for the next 2 years i did the maintenance and upkeep of the gym until i came back stateside.
any thoughts on this idea would be much appreciated . thanks for reading!
Can someone please rip apart AC (E) and explain why claiming that older children who slept with night lights as infants and still suffer from nearsightedness does not weaken the conclusion?
Is it bc AC(E) says "several" and several isn't a significant claim bc it could mean 4 or 5 out of 100 which could be chocked up to being outliers?
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-53-section-1-question-08/
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Can anyone giveme a hand with this question?
PREMISE:
Studies suggest that no matter what type of short term therapy one receives one will have a similar amount of improvement
CONCLUSION:
Therefore, it must be that all these therapies share a common factor that is responsible for this improvement
To me the argument sucks but i cant pinpoint the exact problem.
Thanks
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This question absolutly sucked, anyone wanna take a crack at it?
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-4-question-23/
I just spent more than an hour studying and trying to understand the passage about riddled basins. I think i got it but what was LSAC thinking when they allowed this to be published. It is such an intricate passage and the questions ask for an actual understanding of what riddled basins are, not just testing our ability to understand reasoning structure
Was wondering if there is a difference between a question asking for the overall conclusion of an argument vs main conclusion vs summarizes the main point ?
Iv noted that some AC summarize the MP, and some will literally restate the sentence that has the MC,
Thoughts?
So i plan on taking the june administration and i have 12 fresh PTs sprinkled from 50-83 i plan on spreading them out over the next 4 months so that i can use them as a proper benchmark. My question is should i supplement older PTs [from 35-50] which are untouched or should i reuse the tests i have taken from the 60s. Thanks in advance
Im having a bit of a mental block as how to knockout AC B, i know E is right but can someone help me get rid of B?
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-73-section-4-question-03/
hey, I am sorry to hear about your medical condition. many schools have a prompt for an optional essay, you can definitely submit it there. many schools also allow for a diversity statement that is left open ended, meaning that you can write about anything that may add to the diversity of the campus. if you can explain how your condition has affected you and made you diverse I think it may be fine. I believe there are only a few schools such as NYU that specify that the diversity statement has to be addressing URM status. 7sage has a guide to the requirements for schools which is a great resource.
Nate
the general consensus is to foolproof LG which can take a month or so I personally took a PT right after I finished with the CC
So i have a superficial understanding of this methodology, but i just cant wrap my head completely around whats happening, can i get someones take?
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-4-question-14/
What do you guys eat the night before, eat for breakfast and snack on, for stamina? Trying to get a rhythm going in preperation for December
Im trying to isolate why i found this section so hard. Anyone else have a hard time w it?
Hey yall, im back!!
Just wanna make sure im understanding AC E
[E] says that: "an increase in demand for consumer product is compatible with an increase in demand for a competing product."
Here goes my thought process:
Since the price for domestic wine dropped, people started buying tons of it and it was sold out. Since there was no domestic wine left,people started buying the imported wine, this lead to an increase in sales of imported wine. Thoughts?
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-52-section-3-question-22/
So i am wondering exactly what softs i should put in my resume.
Example, i am a Caring Network volunteer, which entails that i run around and do favors for people who are having medical issues- its not an official position and i only do it when i am available. Should i put this down?
hey @ i was just up in binghamton yesterday, gorgeous views