http://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/lg_10-hardest-logic-games.cfm
Hey guys, i'm wondering if any of you have any suggestions or tips for keeping yourself engaged and continue with a stable level of momentum throughout the PT. I've noticed recently that i tend to get these mini-burn outs around the end of the section where i start to lag in situations where i should be going a quicker.
I'd have to say the dream i had about the LSAT... it involved me waking up in the morning, getting to the test center on time, sitting down and turning to the page to see a logical reasoning section. The first question had no question stem, and the stimulus only said "YES" in big block letters. The answer choices were A) Yes, B) No, C) Maybe, and D) Refrigerator.... that was by far the funniest and most memorable LSAT related moment to date.
Hey guys, i had a quick question. I'm currently going through the Manhattan LSAT LR book right now following "The NoodleyOne's Foolproof Guide to a 179 for Retakers" from TLS ( link = http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=195603) and i'm wondering how many questions is good enough/too much/not enough for drilling after finishing a chapter on a specific question type. I'm currently doing around like 20-25 questions after the chapter with a mix of difficulty in the cambridge packs, doing timed and then BR-ing after... should i be doing more?
i agree with blah170blah. key to getting faster is more familiarity and accuracy. Make sure when you're BRing to really break down the questions you got wrong and figure out what lead you to that decision... what was it about the question that threw you off. You want to figure out what your reasoning was leading up to that decision and what caused you to choose the wrong answer. Also i recommend doing this for the ones that you got right. I personally write it in a notebook and then refer back to them later on for review to ensure that i understood it correctly. So far thats the best advice i can give. Also if you're not getting 23/23 on logic games, then you can easily see improvements in that area by doing the fool proof logic games method in conjunction with the cambridge packets that organize LG by type... what i did was i went through each different type, doing anywhere from 2-5 games of that specific type, referring to the 7sage explanations to get the time, and just repeat till i got it in perfect time and felt like i killed it. This helped me get from only getting to 3 - 3.5 games on PTs to getting to all 4 with 5 minutes to spare =).
Accomplished everything on my list. For this week i'm doing Ch 19 - 25 in the trainer and the drills that accompany those chapters.
Hey guys, so i was wondering if i could get your opinion on my study plan. I recently finished taking Blueprint Prep course around 1 week ago and since then i've just been doing timed sections from preptests 33 - 37, with one full timed PT.
I have no time restrictions at all since i graduated from UG and have money saved up, so i don't need to work for the time being. Since Blueprint used real PTs in their materials it only leaves me with like 14 Fresh practice tests to use to get a score from, so i'm using those maybe once every 2 weeks or so to measure my progress.
As for materials to practice from, i have all of the practice tests to date and have gotten them printed out and coil bounded. My last timed fresh PT that i did with blueprint i scored a 153, and my most recent BR that i did was around 173, so i'm using that as my most recent score to base my focus on and still working on my accuracy until it gets above a 175+. My plan for the next 8 weeks is as follows:
Month 1: My focus is gonna be improving my BR to be consistently above 175+. This is the schedule i have in mind:
- Monday & Wednesday: Full 5 section PT w/ Blind Review.
- Tuesday & Thursday: Drilling areas i'm not great at + hammering the Memory Method for reading comp and repeating games from the Full PT that i wasn't getting in perfect time or missed questions on.
- Friday: Day Off to prevent Burn Out.
- Saturday: Full 5 section PT w/ Blind Review (2 of these in this month will be Fresh to measure my score).
- Sunday: Review Day (Going back and reviewing each problem i got wrong during blind review and review it + drill any question type or game that i'm having trouble on)
Month 2: Switch gears to timing and endurance:
- Mondays & Wednesdays : Full 5/6 section PT w/ Blind Review.
- Tuesday & Thursdays: Individual Timed Sections + Any drilling if need be.
- Friday: Day Off
- Saturday: Full 5/6 section PT w/ Blind Review (3 of these will be fresh).
- Sunday: Review Day.
Doing this will leave me around 6-7 Fresh PTs to have just in case i'm not at my target score (170+) by the February test. If that happens then i plan on continuing the same plan until the June test.
Any opinions on things that i can add to make it better or if this is too intense?
Thanks Guys!
- Naveed.
Also one thing i've realized is just how important BR is. I WISH i would have found 7sage sooner. Although Blueprint taught me great foundational stuff, i know i could have learned it faster with 7 sage and improved wayyy more, mainly because all the intense amounts of work and studying i did with blueprint... i could have been BR-ing and learning a ton more in terms of improving the way i approach problems and tweak what works for ME. My original diagnostic was a 152, and the highest i ever scored after taking blueprint was a 157 with constant fluctuations. I felt like i had accuracy down but it wasn't until i did my first BR and i got a 163 on accuracy that i realized that there were deep foundational mistakes that i needed to improve on before i could hammer on timing. Only after 2 weeks of BR and drilling i've been able to improve my accuracy to 173 already, so seriously thank you 7sage for your free resources, you guys are amazing!
Awesome, i ended up just taking a break for an hour or two and finishing it up anyway. Today was the first time i saw a 170 in BR so i'm definitely improving my accuracy =)... my goal is to get to 175+ in my BR score and then just continue taking PTs, hammering more on timing until the february test.
Is it okay if you take a full prep test one day and BR it the next? The reason i'm asking is because i just finished taking a full 5 section prep test and i just BR-ed 2 sections and i'm going through the 3rd but i can't think straight... would it be super detrimental if i put off BR-ing until tomorrow?
-Finish Chapters 6 & 7 in the trainer
-Skim through logic games section in the trainer.
-Drill both Logic Games and LR based on chapters in the trainer that i covered.
The main pattern i'm noticing isn't necessarily an inability to do the specific question type but more a failure to break down and understand the arguments...
I've been doing that after the fact on the ones that i'm getting wrong post BR by putting them in a journal, but i think thats an even better idea. I'll write sentences for the 2-3 answer choices stating why i believe its right/wrong. Thanks Guys.
Also thanks for the timing estimate turnercm, i don't have a 7sage account so i wasn't sure. I just finished up Blueprint, so i'm using the extra practice problem sets that they use and they don't specify timing for them.
Hey guys,
So after going through various timed sections of LR i'm noticing that i'm not getting to every question but even when i do BR i'm only getting like 20/25 alot of the times. I'm wondering besides reviewing explanations for that question, is there a way to increase accuracy on LR? I've read on the forum that doing drills works, i have sets of extra practice problems that are grouped by the question types, so i can use those. I'm just wondering, how much questions should I be doing when drilling? Should I be timing it?
@ same exact thing here on the timing... it totally messed up my rhythm as well for the other sections because i just kept doubting myself throughout the exam... it was a confidence killer for sure... realllly hoping that first one was the experimental... otherwise i'm gonna have to study more brutal questions for next time just in case that happens on the june exam
@ Same here! i had three LR sections it felt the same way... my section one was bruuuutal, and the 2nd and 3rd one was more familiar in terms of following the pattern of how usual preptests follow in terms of difficulty.
I got 3 LR sections... that RC decimated me... especially the last passage... the LG seemed easy enough, nothing super suprising on there... was considering canceling before... but at this point... fuck it... whatever happens happens... gonna take a week off and study for june's exam though since i'm applying for next year anyway
Checking in and joining this amazing thread =) ended up getting 158 on my feb lsat, and i plan on retaking june with a goal of at least a 165. I recently started/finished the manhattan LR book 3 weeks ago, and just created a study plan to tackle the lsat trainer. weirdly excited for the upcoming weeks...
One of the things i did to get past what i refer to as the "ego bruising" you take from the questions you get wrong is realizing that this test is skill based and not content based. With skill based tests the only means of progression after learning the fundamentals is making mistakes and discovering the reasoning behind them. I think its beyond necessary to get past the validation of correct answers and invalidation of incorrect answers in order to allow yourself to learn from the mistakes. In the end for me it was just learning to love the process and realize that the end result wasn't merely an LSAT score but a development of the skill in my own logical reasoning abilities. Knowing that no matter what the score is, i will have gained something from the experience and journey that the LSAT has taken me through. Yeah its a difficult test but i feel like that is indicative of everything in life thats worth achieving, and once you achieve it... it feels so much sweeter than just getting that score handed to you.
Hey licknee10, tomorrow's my last day of the blueprint course and i'm kinda in the same situation, don't feel ready for the december test so i'm postponing to feb. As someone who has finished the BP course and has purchased 7sage, do you feel like it covers anything that blueprint hasn't? I'm trying to decide whether to extend my myblueprint account or instead just use the money to buy a starter course on 7sage.
same here, doing a PT tomorrow, then thursday for some light review and friday off.
Hey Guys, i woke up this morning and had a cool realization that i thought i'd share... So far i've been studying for about 4 months, planning on taking the February exam, with intentions to also take the June exam because i'm still not averaging where i want to be. But as these months have passed by so quickly i've come to realize that this test is indicative of most journeys people take in life towards success. The thing about success is that it isn’t linear. I'm sure some of you already have come to that lesson when finding out that your score doesn't increase per week or per month based on a set amount of studying. Instead i feel like how it really works is getting rid of your ego, eliminating doubt and doing the tedious hard work necessary that will add an invisible .01% everyday. You may not be able to see the results or progress, but it will eventually add up and result in the huge gains. That's why i believe focusing on enjoying the process (instead of solely focusing on the score increases) as much as possible is something that helps prevent that feeling of frustration when you hit a plateau.
Practicing and improving your reasoning skills through drilling and PTs is only part of the process too. Check your ego at the door and embrace the mistakes you make as well. Your ability to look at mistakes as learning lessons and use them to do deep thorough review of both why the wrong answer is wrong and why your reasoning skills led you to that decision is crucial. It's one of the reasons why i'm so grateful for finding 7sage and learning about Blind review. I remember before i found out about 7sage i would be drilling and checking answers, then getting frustrated at myself for the questions i got wrong, and that would end up blinding me from truly reviewing to figure out why.
I feel like thats why some people aren't able to increase their scores. They just get frustrated and give up because they aren't seeing the result they want, while repeating the same identical process over and over again. You need to learn from these mistakes, and realize that the process will take however long it takes, and trust that you will get there. It could be 3 months, it could be 6 months, it could even be a year. It's all up to you. Also it's important to realize that this test isn't the end all be all either. There is much more work to come in law school, and even more work as an attorney. So, how bad do you want it?
For those of you that are taking the February exam this Saturday, i wish you good luck and am excited for what the future holds.
Side Note... whenever i begin to freak out and have anxiety about this test, now i just think of this guy = http://imgur.com/gallery/OFL3N0F and all of it fades away lol
Thanks for the advice guys. i withdrew from the december LSAT and enrolled in the february one. I plan on going through and drilling the questions based on group/category that i'm getting wrong on LR sections in Blind Review so i can improve my accuracy, and plan on printing out practice tests that i've already done to practice timed sections. I'm gonna do a mix of both each week, and do a full practice test every 2 weeks to measure my progress. After implementing blind review i feel like i'm learning muuuuch muuuch more than i have in the past 2 months with the prep course i was taking. I never realized how essential it was to the learning process until now.
Hey Guys,
So i just finished a prep course and i'm not scoring exactly where i want to be. My diagnostic was 152, and my score has been fluctuating with the highest score being 157 and the lowest being 150. My goal is to score 165. I just recently discovered 7sage and the whole blind review thing and have started to implement it. My Blind Review score was around 163 the last time i took it. The main issue i have is with timing. I'm only able to get to 20 questions in LR, 3 Games in LG, and 3 Passages in RC. Reading Comp is my worse section, and Logic Games is my best section. My goal is to be able to finish each section but i'm not exactly sure how to practice timing outside of just taking timed sections and practice tests.
Also another issue i have is that the prep course i took kinda implemented questions from each practice test, and essentially left me with only 12 fresh practice tests that haven't been used. My plan is to just do timed sections from those older practice tests that they've utilized and hope that i don't remember much for it to affect my score/timing significantly. Since i only have 12 fresh practice tests i'm thinking i'll just do one a week, leaving me with 4 additional ones. If anyone has any advice i'd love to hear it. I feel kinda screwed in the sense that i don't have alot of unused practice tests left and i'm not scoring where i want to be.
Lets break it down:
1. IF replacement parts for the old sirens are difficult to obtain ----> THEN the government will purchase and install new severe weather sirens for this area next year.
2. IF the new sirens were to be installed ------> Then as the news paper claims, public safety in the event of severe weather would be enhanced.
3. The Local company for which replacement parts were purchased last year has since gone out of business
CONCLUSION: So, if the newspaper is correct, the public will be safer during severe weather in the future.
So the sufficient assumption that we're looking for would bridge the gap between the premises and the conclusion.
(C) is tempting because the fact that a local company is the only company in the area that sold the replacement parts and they're out of business seems to fit the idea that they are"difficult to obtain", but it still leaves open the possibility of getting the parts from elsewhere. Just because the local company is the only company that sells the parts doesn't mean that they can't get replacement parts out of the area, or order it online... So it wouldn't 100% lock down the idea that parts will be difficult to obtain.
(D) is correct because it fills in the gap perfectly by saying that if the government cannot obtain them from the company it purchased them from last year ----> then the replacement parts for the old sirens will be difficult to obtain. If you connect this with premises 1 & 2 above, it comes out to a valid conditional statement where it follows:
Government cannot obtain old siren replacement parts from the company it purchased it from last year -----> Old siren replacement parts are considered difficult to obtain -----> The government will purchase and install new severe weather sirens -----> In the event of severe weather public safety will be enhanced.
I hope that explanation helps! and also for future explanations this might help = http://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/blog/2010/05/14/lsat-questions-answers-explanations/