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I would just use your phone, assuming it has enough storage space. I don't remember where I bought it (probably eBay) but I have a "gorilla pod" type tripod that's designed to be used with most phones. Works well and I can easily adjust the angles.

awesome, I'll check it out

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Any recos ladies?

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I just tried photobooth which seems like it'll work! However, for me, having a laptop on my desk while working is too distracting.

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mentioning he uses a selfie stick. I just bought one to record myself doing logic games, but I need to figure out how to mount it as well! Would love to see what other people use.

I got a selfie stick too. I was hoping I would be able to fix it in place somehow, but I realized I need a mount for sure.

@ Side note: The cashier asked if I was going on a vacation. The look on her face when I told her what I was actually using it for was priceless.

LMAO. I can only imagine aha.

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@ This works pretty well for me and it didn’t break the bank:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0126JQ9G6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Looks pretty good, I may actually go for this. Thanks!

Awesomee!

@ If your next week is looking less crazy, how about doing your PT today and then BRing both today's and last week's PT's during the week?

This. Seems like best of both worlds.

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I really think I haven't been doing this enough. I skip some, then for some reason, I try and grapple with others I can't understand and that is most likely what makes me not end up being able to get to all of the questions.

@ Skip the question and come back if you have time. You want to make sure you're getting all of the questions right that you can..rather than getting #22-#26 wrong because you burned 3 minutes each on

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#21

, you skip 20 and 21, and are able to get the last 4 right because you're not in "high-pressure-holy-shit-time's-running-out" mode. Does that make sense?

Makes total sense, I think that's precisely what's been happening.

@ This enables you to begin getting through sections and only having trouble on ones that you are aware are giving you a hard time. It's a lot easier to beat an enemy that you can identify than one you can't even see.

Great way to put it! It's only now that I realize such a disservice I've been doing to myself by BRing everything and not building my ability to be certain about what I know and what I don't. I'll start practicing using this approach.

Thanks for your help!

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@.gill.sanford So it depends - are you kicking ass at these games and then just not doing well when you see fresh materials? Why are you scoring -8 on games? You will have to determine why that is happening.

Scoring well under J.Y's time is definitely not the norm for me. Thinking about it, I probably would benefit from going back and really ensuring I am well under his time for PTs 1-35.

Perhaps through the process something will "click" for me.

@.gill.sanford My main piece of advice is to try to figure out the issue with LG and focus there for a while. Once you're down to -2 average, go back to PTing.

Thanks so much for clearing things up Allison!! I'll buckle down with LG and see how far I can go.

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Allison,

A final thought here is I am wondering if it would be best for me to return to PTs 1-35 and fool-proof em or would it be a better use of my time to continue to take full-length PTs from 36-60? (only because I have done the games in these PTs but have otherwise not seen any of the other sections).

I figure by doing full-length PTs from 36-60 I am still gaining practice on LG sections that I have seen before (whereby I can try focusing on timing and staying calm a little more), but the other benefit I see is that I can practice LR at the same time, implementing strategies like skipping which I haven't otherwise done.

Am I spreading myself too thin? Or is drilling LG alone quite likely the most effective use of my time at this point? (I'm hoping to write the LSAT in June).

Thanks again for the guidance.

Awesome webinars btw!

@ At some point I was so obsessed over it that I got super nervous about PT - didn't want to take it, put it off, etc

Hah, that sounds like me this week. I'll take that as a sign to try and ease up a little.

Thanks again.

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Hey mimimimi, thanks for sharing your experience.

Hearing it, I'm definitely going to plan ahead and do some of the 170s much earlier than test day when I get back into PT phase.

I'll likely also experiment and take it a tad bit easier on my prep schedule to see if it might help.

I figure the more I can change things up at this point, the better.

@ being able to recognize the cookie cutter nature of problems, so that you can get rid of your POE approach and go hunting for the correct answer will allow you to answer questions in well under a minute and that is just money in the bank for those harder questions at the end. (by the way, I am mercilessly plagiarizing

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I agree, this would be ideal. I'm going to check out his webinars now, thanks!

@ I’m also going to throw in that you probably need to skip more questions like it’s your job. Think of it like this: Your goal is to spend the least amount of time on the questions you will inevitably get wrong.

yes, you're right. I've been trying to work on this but haven't found a way to make it work yet. When I do skip questions, I usually am not able to return to them at all and am left grappling with even harder questions near the end of the section which I don't skip because I feel like I've skipped so many questions already. In hindsight, I can now see this as the wrong approach, I should be skipping those difficult questions too and then returning to the questions near the start of the section that I skipped initially and work my way through to the end again).

@ I’d also recommend recording yourself so you can exactly how you spend your time. If you get a question right, but it takes you 4 minutes, then you have to see that as a serious loss, even though you got it right.

I thought about this before but I now realize how crucial it is. I'm going to do this for sure (just gotta go out and buy a stand for my cellphone). It is quite likely the case that I am spending far too long on certain questions but just haven't realized it. Recording should help.

Thanks for the awesome suggestions!

@ Wow. Thank you for the advice and inspiration. Hearing that you've gone through a similar experience and got out of it is really encouraging. I think I'm going to go back and foolproof all the game sections I've taken (1-60) before returning to full PTs. Hopefully the "click" will happen.

@ If you're studying 8+ hours a day, when are you taking your PTs? At the beginning of that study session or towards the end? If it's towards the end, fatigue could be an issue. Regardless, I think you may be doing too much as well as putting too much pressure on yourself.

Hey Elle, I've only recently returned to PTs after doing the curriculum for 2 months. Prior to this, I took 10 PTs over the course of 4 months while mixing in drilling. The last 2 PTs I've taken have been in the morning, and I've been following a pretty disciplined routine of taking it at the same time, eating the same foods, working out etc. so I don't believe fatigue is at issue.

I also don't believe I'm burning out yet. However, there is pressure (but it's really odd, because I don't believe its an overblown pressure or anything, just pressure coming from the fact that I've been stuck at the same score for quite a long time).

@ When you PT, you may need to work on your confidence/mindset because it seems like you make a lot of mistakes due to panicking. With LG, perhaps focus on being calm, reading carefully, and not letting any particular section or question throw you. If you encounter problems, you have to be able to put them behind you and move on to the other questions with a calm mindset.

I think you may be right. To some extent, panic is a factor especially with weird LG games.

I'm going to work on this.

Thanks for the advice.

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Thanks for the advice. You're right. I haven't been developing my confidence in my ability to get certain questions right, and second-guessing may be eating up my time. I'm going to start working on this for sure.

@ I’d also infer that you’re not thinking strategically about questions. Are there LR questions that you’re getting right within 30-50 seconds?

Yeah, i think not thinking strategically about questions maybe something I have to work on (hoping a webinar can help clear this up as well). I can get certain SA questions correct within 1 minute, but I don't usually get LR questions in 30-50 seconds unless its at the very start of the section.

@ “Do you take a pause or a moment before going into the questions to think about how each of the rules works together?” Like Corey Janson says, more often than not, you have to slow yourself down to speed yourself up.

Yes, I've been doing this, but perhaps not effectively seeing that I am still taking relatively long on games for timed PTs that I haven't seen before. Maybe I'll return to LG from the first PTs and be extra cognizant of this.

anyway, thanks for the input & webinar page link, I'm going to check them out now.

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@.gill.sanford Have you drilled all games from 1-35 until under JYs time?? There is no reason you should accept scoring -8 on games consistently.

Hey Allison, yes I have. I usually hit JY's time exactly or just under. On some of the harder games, admittedly I don't, but then I redo those games 5+ times and then return to them later. I drilled games alone through this process and Pacifico's attack strategy for almost 2 months.

Now that I think of it, it seems that I might be getting psyched out subconsciously under timed pressure which leads me to making silly mistakes (such as misreading a rule, misreading the initial setup etc) that results in me taking up too much time on the first 3 games that I am not able to get to the last one in time.

That, or I am just not proficient enough at games as I think I am, in which case I should re-do all games sections from PT 1-60 before attempting any new PT. Thoughts?

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Hey Ron, I may be a little, but I think that overall, time is my biggest hindrance (as I'd imagine it's everyone's though?) For LR, I am always struggling to finish each LR section in time. I usually will only attempt 22-23 questions per set because I can't seem to get to all of them in time. When I do speed up, I end up not really understanding the stimuli for other questions and my performance just gets worse.

@ If you have a good grip on the fundamentals, poor time management may be hurting your performance more than you realize

I think my fundamentals are ok (but I may be wrong?) because I am BRing nearly perfect, -4ish for the entire test. Do you have any suggestions on how I can improve time while keeping accuracy?

@ I usually BR every question on a freshly printed section.

@ Congrats Nicole!!

Can Canadian students get involved? If so, count me in :)

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did you follow his advice to not write case briefs? Do you think that is good advise? Do you have any other suggestions or recommendations?

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Great stuff nicole!!!