Thanks @mariawilkinson024! By in the 160s, do you mean possibly above 164, or highest probably should be 164?

Is it just me or are RC passages waaayyy easier in the newer PTs than in the older ones... I’ve been exclusively doing old RC but for this PT I felt like for once they were speaking to me in my native language...

@nicoledg19723

Thanks a lot for your answer, so encouraging! This definitely gives me some ideas of what I can do. How did you drill RC when you did time?

Also, could you suggest any tutors to me? I’m looking for one at the moment. Feel free to private message.

@lucykelly459 said:

I feel like I understand. I talk out the stimulus and answer choices to myself and I feel okay

I think that's your problem here. You're not ready to go into the test if you're reviewing answers based on it feeling right and how it sounds to you. You should be able to write out a foolproof argument for why the right answer choice is right and why the wrong answer choices are wrong. I felt like this last year when I studied, like, I think about it, I read over it, I watch the videos. I get it, this makes sense, and I would move on. That thinking doesnt work for the lsat.

Hi @lucykelly459 I was wondering if you think it’s super important to actually write it down. I started doing that before and ending up stopping because sometimes I would write down things guessing (since it’s BR) and sort of solidify wrong things after, or sometimes I just wasn’t sure no matter how long I stared at it if it was contingent on something I just plain didn’t know. Now I just write some notes if I feel I need it on my PT and sometimes write them in a notepad after. I just can’t bring myself to explain why each is wrong, I feel like it’s a waste of time since it’s usually quite clear why in my head anyway. How do you see it? How do you avoid this?

Totally right @hejazifariba929, i did the same thing, and I couldn’t have said it better. In my case I was interning in China, part time teaching, taking other courses, and studying for the LSAT. When I came back I cut out all my worries and did some hard core self-comforting after my (failed) LSAT of last year December, and cutting out a ton of mental clutter was crucial for me to focus and keep going and not be discouraged. My motto after was “one thing at a time, well”. But this is because it’s already been a year of studying for me and I really wanted to hurry up to make it in time for this year. I’ve improved 8 points since March, and still could have a way to go, we’ll see how the June test goes.

Of course, if you can’t cut out, don’t be afraid that it takes more time, it’s not the end of the world, I dunno what your concerns are, but prolonging really isn’t usually a problem. Have patience.

Just remember to keep it up and when you don’t want to just tell yourself you’ll do “a little” studying (for ex 1 RC, or 2 games) and see how much you can muster after that. It’s usually enough to get me in the mood, and at worst, if you’re doing a little every day, you are actually progressing, no matter how slow.

I’d also suggest keeping the LSAT to the morning when your mind is in best shape. And self compassion, be nice to yourself when you are naughty (lol), but kick yourself in the ass to do more. Recognize when you start “frying” and take a step back, or realize that you’re slacking and give yourself a push, it’s a difficult balance.

So I’m just wondering, source bias can never weaken a question in the least?

#help

If A→B→C are the premises like here, and the conclusion is X→C. Couldn’t a correct answer also link X to B? Not just X→A?

#help

Haha I get it, well as long as there’s no numerical categorization then I’m not worried! I definitely feel it has contributed to who I am and am thankful for it. Thanks for your comment @nicoledg19723

You can do this @gregoryalexanderdevine723! Is there a way to cut down on work? Before I also tried to study while working looong hours, but it’s much more difficult to be on your top if your mind is tired and used. Your mind is not inexhaustible at all. It can be overworked. Good sleep, less mind clutter (cutting out things that way on your mind at all), will make it much easier. Also, be thorough, don’t just half watch the videos or half take notes. You have to be 100% there when you study and be methodical and record your progress. Those are mistakes I made in the beginning.

Hi @anonclsstudent104 I always get drastically lower scores when I’m stressed or tired (like today... 156 when I usually score around 162- devastating still). You can do this. I used to get those scores and now I stepped back and eliminated all the crap out of my life that was taking out of my mind energy. I think that’s important. If you understand the concepts well then it’s mostly about the nerves and the confidence I think. Make sure you have a cut off time where you say “you’ve done enough hours” take a break and do something totally different for the rest of the day without thinking about it. Also make sure you’re getting like 8 hours of sleep, at least that’s important for me. Taking time in nature is also a mind saver.

Of course I get the most wrong on the easiest passage and none on the hardest :/

I don’t get my RC results, and I don’t know how to analyze them :(

Nooo... does that mean I'm going to lose everything and I don't even have a choice? :( I'm gonna cry.

I saw @marine4life6798246 helping with similar problems, don’t know if you’re still around? :)

haha JY's commentary on this one made me laugh >u<

On question 1, the reason I eliminated B was because of "trends in modern art"... wheeeere did that come from... also it says "an" innovative style, where there were numerous ones... sigh... when it comes to weighing which answer choices are more wrong, I just never know which to choose.

I just couldn't wrap around how you can only cover basic material, but in depth. Didn't get what that would look like- which is why I didn't see D. But still, it seems contradictory.

The conclusion is that this book has had MUCH influence on a GREAT number of readers. So we could weaken it by saying that it doesn't have much influence on the readers, OR that its actually not a great number of readers right?

If so then C would help, because it shows whether it was a great number of readers (maybe there are like 10 million) or not. Is it wrong only because the more pressing issue is if it was influential on anyone, and that's what the premises go on to prove? Or am I just wrong about the second issue?

#help

finally an enlightening explanation..

Question 19 seems pretty far off from what we could imply from the passage, isn't it? I don't see it.#help

Thanks for your advice and taking the time to reply @leahbeuk911!

Yeah, I kind of knew I should probably be doing that with RC but since it was such a pain... lol I guess you also don't see the results of all of that as quickly as compared to LR where it seems more black and white.

Gonna see how things go with this!

Well kudos to you on your test score! I hope you can get into the 170s, and congrats on how far you've come- I hope to hit 170s in just a month and a half. seems a bit out of reach, but I guess one step at a time >.((/p)