@8835 that's an interesting question. My property prof mentioned sufficient and necessity a lot today but other than that, not really. I think the LSAT teaches you certain skills like time-management which is helpful for law school exams. Since everyone is a hard worker and comes in to exams prepared and with the same knowledge base, sometimes spending 1 minute or 2 extra on one question than your peers can be the difference in between your letter grade.

Other than that it's hard to tell whether the reasoning/analytical skills you learn help because I have nothing to compare it to.

@emmorens932 I think a 160+ probably helps but there are people with a lower score that get in. Most people usually never talk about LSAT scores once in, it's kind of like a shared experience no one wants to talk about. But I know that Osgoode has a holistic approach so they do take into account work experience, grades, etc. I noticed that people with 160+ were the ones that got offers earlier in the cycle. If the rest of your application is strong then with a score in mid 150s or high 150s you should have a good shot. But check out the admissions statistics that the school releases every year to see if you fall within there.

@fcejacer907 yeah! I applied last cycle, my last lsat take was jan and it was definitely an adjustment period 😂😂 but i promise there is a life outside of lsat and eventually you get used to not having everything revolve around it. Yes I'm starting at Osgoode in about a month

@fcejacer907 yeah i've just been busy working and enjoying that stress-free post-lsat life before school starts - which is in a month! eep.

Ayy congrats my fellow Canadian! Enjoy Ottawa Law, wishing you all the best :)

Congrats @fcejacer907 you deserve it! I remember how helpful and insightful your comments always were

Also most likely going to attend Osgoode!

Congrats!!!

Ayyy congrats Paul! UBC!! Hopefully you'll learn to love their sweatshirts. Best of luck to ya, my friend.

@alexanderthegreat4558 @hbochjk116-san thanks guys!

Congrats!!!!

Thank you 😭😭😭

General principle: all apples are delicious.

Example: unsurprisingly, the apple that martha ate was delicious.

Now the presupposes aspect is tricky because an assumption could be unstated or be something that one party assumes to be true.

Martha was at the farmers market looking for apples. Unsurprisingly, the one that she ate was delicious. Therefore, all apples are delicious.

Here our AP is the premise (illustration) used to support the C (our general principle)

I think there are plenty of argument forms that could fall into the category you've described. The general principle could be in the context, premise, or conclusion since your statement doesn't indicate the support structure. Just that the part of the argument we are isolating is used to illustrate that general principle.

Hope that helps!

Exactly what @tat2142593 said. A lot of us had tried other prep stuff (Powerscore, trainer, blueprint) that didn't work or wasn't sufficient so we're biased for 7sage. If you ask people on powerscore forum, I'm sure you'll find tons of people who the style worked for. I'd suggest sticking with the CC for now and focus on one method and mastering fundamentals. After that, you can try others to find different perspectives for an area you might be weak in that 7sage isn't helping you with. I know some people whose fundamentals from 7sage were supplemented by powerscore, trainer, etc. and others who just needed 7sage.

7sage truly the best out there 😭😭😭

Welcome!

I think if you have the money, ultimate is probably the better option (or even ultimate+). Reason being is that with ultimate+ you get access to all the questions ever released by LSAC. I went from starter to ultimate+ so I don't know much about the other courses. I just know that the content provided in the core curriculum is the same (the lessons don't discriminate based on which package you buy) all that changes is how many video explanations you get access to.

AND do you guys recommend just taking a cold PT untimed to see where your at? I keep reading about people timing their first test just to see where they're at but I'm not sure if thats the best route?

I think it depends on your personality. It's always good to know where you're starting off from and good to get an idea of the beast you'll eventually be learning the skills to conquer. I would recommend taking it timed as opposed to untimed because depending on where you are starting off, untimed might be more harmful. To give an example, when I first started out there were a looot of questions I never would've been able to figure out no matter how much time I was given. I know you have some LSAT foundations based on what you've posted, so I would recommend either skipping the diagnostic altogether or taking the june 2007 timed.

As long as your expectations are modest before taking the test, it should be fine. If you think that getting a diagnostic below score x will psychologically hurt you then I wouldn't recommend it.

My question is this, what techniques have you guys used to initially start off that proved to increase your score?

I think taking your time with the core curriculum and really absorbing everything is a good start to increase your score. Try to really solve the questions on your own (using the BR method) and follow your own timeline. You can't cram for the test, and LSAT doesn't fit into a neat schedule unfortunately. When you take your first PT post CC, try not to put too much pressure on it. A lot of people do and are surprised when the knowledge they've learned through CC doesn't immediately get applied to that first PT. In general, just pace yourself. Save your materials as well (so don't use too many fresh PT's as once) in case of retakes or if your timeline gets delayed. That's the general tips I can think of right now. The tips will change depending on where you are in your progress relative to your BR, actual, and goal score. But for now, just try to learn the material and enjoy it! :)

@8835 Yes, Y (I don't wanna get the spelling wrong) that is me! Your posts were super helpful to me, I still would like the subscription for daily motivation. I hope everything works out well for you!!

@rominamogtaderi153 Thanks! Congrats to you too! Maybe we'll run into each other at a Canadian law school :)

AHHHHHH! SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!💕 Congratulations!!! 😭😭😭😭😭

Akikooo!!! 😭😭😭

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Couldn't have asked for a better sounding board over the past (Heck!) 1.5 years of studying.

Me neither! Couldn't have asked for a better study buddy...I mean I wish you were better at texting, but 😂😂😂

@marine4life6798246 Michelle! Hope things are good with you?? We should catch up soon (3

@fengx346369 Thank you so much, hope everything is well for you :smile:(/p)

@leahbeuk911 I still can't keep calm!!

@8835 I hope everything is going great for you and you're killing law school :smiley:

@8835 @hbochjk116 @keatricerobertson487 @marine4life6798246 @marine4life6798246 @mjmonte17592 @jasminesade220 @turnercm409 @mjmonte17592 @rochishatogare811 @keatricerobertson487 @wwijaya1190566 @nessak130467 @mjmonte17592 @paulmvbenthem537 So many familiar faces 😭😭 Thank you for all your support and well wishes everyone. For those of you that are still going through the hellish journey, I wish you all the best. DM me if you have any questions or just need a sounding board, I know that the emotional and psychological aspect is half the battle.

Congrats!!! I think I bookmarked a couple of your discussions cause they really hit home.

Congrats! Reading others success stories gave me strength too. Glad you got to write your own 😁😁

Thank you everyone for your kind words and support.

@hbochjk116 you're gonna kill it too girl 💕 you helped me so much

@8835 it still hasn't sunk in yet, can't believe it's over!

@leahbeuk911 honestly your words of encouragement back in the early stage of PTing made a huge difference!

CONGRATS

It also depends on what your PT average for your last 5 PT's was before (section breakdown), BR average (section breakdown), goal score.