Yep, there is no reason to take it in December. If you try and rush the LSAT then you will not do so well. Translate that.

@.pyles

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Is it important to make a distinction between them, if so why?

Yes. Mainly because you want to familiarize yourself with the subject and the way they are written.

@.pyles

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Is there a difference between the types of questions asked, if so why?

I don't think so. You will get main point, inference, reference, agree/disagree, etc. questions from all types.

@.pyles

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Is there a difference in the type of reading or style per passage.

The grammar will be similar but the science passages may be less abstract than the law passages. You can also run into history type passages that trace a timeline of events. The structure will also change as to where the main points/premises/contexts are.

@.pyles

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the jargon and background knowledge makes it difficult and seems to favor or reward those in certain fields of study

This is why it is important to read outside of the LSAT.

@ word.

@ ok that is a good amount. Listen to @ and @ above my advice. They are mentors for a reason. Good luck.

@ how many fresh PTs do you have left?

@ That makes me think that you actually do have a decent understanding of the fundamentals

Really? I recall you saying that any score below 160 indicates a lack of understanding of the fundamentals.

@ so am I not the only one who spends that much time?

Not at all. Some people will be faster than others but I know I have spent tons of time especially in RC. BR is the process of learning. It takes time. When I first started BRing it was kind of painful. Then as time went on I got better.

@ Look, as a musician, I have learned a simple lesson. You can't play fast, until you learn how to play slow

Word! This is an amazing lesson to learn. I am a percussionist (music performance). What do you play?

@ even if I leave 5-6 questions then I would still be better than what I am at now

Nope. Not a good idea. You will likely miss the low hanging fruit with this mentality. Make it a point to "touch" all of the questions and if you get stuck MOVE ON. The LSAT writers want you to spend time on questions that are difficult. Don't fall for that. Circle, move on and come back if you have time. Otherwise you have to guess which is ok since you most likely won't get that question right anyway.

@ I tried two methods, one is by trying to go over as many questions as possible to collect the easy ones. But what happened is that I lost accuracy

Whenever you start a new method this will happen but should improve in the long run. You need to do this to catch the low hanging fruit. Try not to rush but move quickly. Read Jonathan Wang's Mavis Beacon post.

@ but I am dumb

We all are. This is good to realize so that pride doesn't make you stumble but if it becomes self-depreciating then you have a problem. I have felt like an idiot countless times but just keep at it.

@ During BR, I make sure that I understand the stimulus completely. I think that's a wrong thing to do

Why? This is the EXACT reason for BR!!!

Above all, get back to the basics and really hit those grammar and argument lessons. Take your time and be thorough.

@ Stop taking PTs! When you say you feel like you know the material you are clearly wrong. You dont know the material (at least as well as you think you do). You need to go back to the basics and camp out until you have them down. Go back to the beginning of the curriculum and take your time. Stop wasting PTs though, for real. Also, in your BR are you taking your time or rushing through it?

@ i think this is fairly normal. Is this your first time BRing? How many PTs have you taken/BR? If you havent taken a lot then the gap will close over time. If you have then maybe you could brush up on some fundamentals before taking another PT.

@ also read Jonathan Wang's "Mavis Beacon" post. He talks about how new/better techniques are worse in the short term but better in the long run.

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I have found that it really is taking me more time

This is most likely because you have not practiced this enough. The same thing happened to me when I first switched to POE but it is exponentially better in the long run.

@ I had a RC passage like this (out of the blue and really good) and it was not representative of how I normally perform. You dont have enough PTs under your belt to have a real indication of where you're at so I would take it as potential and thats it. Dont look into too much and keep BR/foolproof up. Take another 10 PTs (at least) and then you can put that score in a better perspective.

@ how many PTs have you taken? What is your average games section on those PTs?

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and I am in the frustrating 168-172 range

yeah, must be terrible...

@.jj don't move on until you get it; however, if after awhile you are still struggling then move on but come back to it. BR method says to take as long as you need but sometimes you just need to take a break and come back to it later.

@ that video tells me there are a lot of aspects of my existence that I take for granted. Thank you for sharing.

@ hahahahahahahaha

I would say you are in great shape for a top school. Since you can't change your numbers now, I would focus on writing a bomb personal statement and securing solid LORs. Keep in mind that even if the numbers line up you can blow it with a bad personal statement. Also, make it a point to not repeat anything in the different parts of your application. Any law school will see your transcript so I would be careful to highlight different GPAs---these officials know what to look for and they don't need you to tell them that.

@ yeah take a long solid break but also remember that this test is the easiest part of becoming a lawyer...that may not sound helpful but you need to hear that. Maybe you could be happy doing something else? Maybe you just need a break? Idk....I was confronted by this reality and it actually helped put the test into perspective which motivated me to study. I knew if i couldnt beat the LSAT then i had no business going to law school---trigger fight or flight response. JY says this in the very beginning of the curriculum:"the LSAT is hard, law school is even harder."

We should put this whole post on the "effects of the LSAT" discussion topic ;)

Fights with my wife...:)

@ I will take a stab at this and im sure others will correct if need be. The 1st makes the flaw of affirming the necessary condition which leads to zero conclusions. The second has a whole to part element and im not sure what is wrong with it. If yahoo reduced all salaries by 6% then it is valid since the sufficient condition is satisfied. Is this from a PT or problem set?

This conversation is entertaining.

Is it possible for one to win with an inactive account? I left and actually made it on a "getting close" list...