interested!!

found it thank you!

Thanks @! That makes me feel a lot better if JY had this issue ;) Did he say how much he warms up before the PT/what he does?

And yay, @ helped me with my last question too!! I'm starting to think she's my LSAT hero tbh

@ interesting! I might give that a go, thank you :) The problem is very much psychological, so tackling it with something psychological is a great idea. Thanks again!

Thanks @! Appreciate the advice. The only problem I see with warm ups is that it seems like it wouldn't prove beneficial for the real thing - it can take like 2 hours for them to seat everyone into the testing room, read the directions, etc. so I wonder if a warm up would be relevant.

@ so you would still argue that attacking a premise is never permissible in an answer choice?

I'd also be curious to see what that looks like

@ thank you so much! This is exactly what i thought YAY!!

It's so funny, cause I know that in real life attacking a premise is an effective way to weaken, but I was thinking maybe it was like an unwritten rule of the LSAT that they would never put an answer choice like that. I think I've taken about 15 PT's so far and I've never seen them do it. Thanks for pointing out that you've found exceptions! Now I'll be sure to be wary of them : )

thanks @ ! :)

This sounds amazingly useful! Sorry if this is a dumb question, but where can we access the recorded webinar(s)?

this is great. just thought i'd add a tip that helps me:

After you finish blind reviewing LR and writing all your explanations, take a blank copy and do all those questions again. This sounds unnecessary because you're probably like, well I just did blank copy LR AND watched the videos/wrote explanations. But actually I think it really helps! Here's the thing, I feel like the LSAT is very psychological - when you see a question that is a weakness for you, your instinct is to freeze up or at least have some sort of negative emotions associated with it. You want to overcome that feeling on the real PT, so going back and tackling these questions again with your newfound knowledge is an excellent confidence builder, and lets you get used to the "oh I actually know how to do this" feeling of seeing a really hard question and methodically going through it like it's NBD. Also, even though you've just watched all these explanations, you'd be surprised sometimes how you might not remember why you eliminated that one answer choice.

Has anyone noticed they announced this on the exact last day to postpone the June LSAT without withdrawing? Lol maybe I'm reading too much into it

thanks @ appreciate the input!

@ yes i agree! I was offered a position full-time at a company with a really hectic start-up culture (haha California bay area life) and I ultimately knew it just wouldn't work with the LSAT. Going to look into some legal aid volunteering until something else crops up. congrats on finding your happy medium :)

@ very eloquently said, and I agree. I found the same issue myself with 1 vs. 2 PT's because I usually liked to spend a couple days drilling the concepts I missed. It seems to be a delicate balance between taking the time to really dissect the logic, while also keeping afloat with practicing your timing/technique under simulated testing conditions

Yep @ I remember JY saying that too, which is what prompted me to ask this. But you're right, it's not so much about the score itself.

@ You can't exceed your potential for understanding, but you can't necessarily reach it either. At least until you start scoring in the high 170's, there's going to be a consistent gap between your theoretical potential and what you are actually capable of.

^ I think this was exactly what I was missing. I was viewing BR as a much more oversimplified concept than it really is. It's tempting to look at that number and think "once i patch up my timing, that's what it's gonna be." But it's not an indication of a future score at all, it's just a theoretical potential to give you a gauge of your actual understanding in that current moment. Not to mention that it doesn't even account for the stress or pressure of the real deal.

Thank you! Seems minor but I think I needed that shift in perspective, especially when you're staring at those two glaring numbers after each PT.

Also side note @ your webinar on the PT phase was awesome; it's helped me out so much already with navigating this sometimes hazy post-curriculum process :)

thank you @, that puts my mind at ease a bit :)

Hi! Just wondering, don't the problem sets in the CC and the PT 1-35 bundle repeat themselves? I think all those practice problem sets are from PT 1-35 ( maybe @ has some insight into this) :)

Hi @.busis, thank you so much for your response! That definitely helps. If you are just out of college, how many months of a resume gap would you say requires an addendum explaining it?

@

Awesome, you've inspired me to give 2 PT's/week a try :) I calculated it out and that puts me at about 30 PT's until the June LSAT (it's technically 37, but being conservative.) That's not including the ~10 I've taken so far.

Do you happen to remember approximately how many you got through? I've heard people say it takes anywhere from 20-35 tests for it to really "click." I don't care too much about counting them religiously or anything; I'll obviously get there when I get there. But I am curious if there are any milestones/breakthroughs that you kind of naturally start to hit after a certain number of PTs?

As for the food for thought, I completely agree, that's pretty much been my strategy as well! Not to mention that the LSAT is coming up with more and more weird games nowadays, so the old tests seem more useful now than ever...

@ Interesting, I was actually debating whether I should start out with 1 PT a week or 2. Did you feel that 2 PT's a week was a lot to get through? It feels manageable with just BR'ing, but in terms of also going back into the curriculum and fixing weak spots throughout, I was wondering if that ever got hectic. Was that why you found alternating between one and two PT + BR/week a good approach? (I used to do 2-3 PT's a week and burned out very quickly that way.) Also, did you ever take a block of time to just focus on a particular section, i.e. just 2 weeks on games, or did you find that kind of took you off track?

Hahaha sorry for asking like a million questions! I'm pretty much in the phase of your study that you did from July to September 2016, with the exception that instead of doing 7sage CC before that, I had taken TestMasters originally. (I found that they actually taught me quite well, but I'm sure I might have some occasional "gaps" in understanding that will come up and I'll have to supplement with the 7sage CC.)

Thank you so much for breaking your study schedule down for me, I feel like my game plan for these next couple months is finally coming together :)

@ yes it helped a lot! glad to know others have been in similar situations. good luck with SMU by the way :)

@ thank you, and major props for juggling both. I don't think I can afford to take more time off so this was some much-needed perspective

@ knowing this about employers/recruiters is very helpful, I will definitely keep that in mind. good luck with the rest of your studying

@ im glad these couple years have given you direction! I was actually considering tutoring SAT's as well (if only we could take that test instead LOL), but I wasn't sure because I figured I might be overloading my brain and affecting my studying. did you find this to be the case?

Also haha just want to say @ all of you thank you for being so nice and helpful; other law school forums can be so cut throat. This was really great :)

@ First of all, CONGRATS on the T-14 thats amazing! And thank you for sharing your experience; parts of it are honestly so similar to mine it feels like I'm hearing my own. I had those exact emotions with making it a 2 year gap, and I especially relate in regards to all the friends who had already "made it" so to speak. I have quite a few of those, most of which I'd taken classes with in high school or college, and I've found it can really throw you off if you let it.

If you don't mind me asking, what was your timeline like after you postponed for the December 2015 exam? Curious to hear how you balanced your full time job with the LSAT in those six months before quitting in June. Did you then take the September LSAT? It's such a pivotal couple months, and I was curious how you made your study schedule work for you. I really can't afford to do a 3-year gap so I'm trying to ensure I have an iron-clad study plan ahead of me.

Thank you so much for the kind words/inspiration :)

@ said:

Working can do the same, but I don't think getting a 9-5 shows much about you unless it is something you are passionate about.

I really needed to hear this, thank you! Being stressed about the situation came at the expense of trying to make decisions that wouldn't be a good fit for me. I gave it more thought and I think working part time and/or volunteer work would be best for my situation (even better than full-time studying).

Interestingly, I have usually always stuck to the mantra of not actively trying to look good on a resume, and in fact largely attribute that to my successes. I think perhaps looking at this situation - where I've made a fair share of mistakes - was making me wary of trusting my own judgment. Thank you for the clarity :)

@ that was actually my exact thought process as to why I thought part-time would be a good idea, thank you so much for the insight! I think that's looking like the best option for me right now. If you don't mind me asking, did you find it difficult to find part-time work specifically? It seems everywhere I look asks for full-time, and I've also been told some places that pay part-time end up basically working you full time, so I was just wondering what that process was like for you!