@sarahfatima @jennilynn89537 I was actually just talking to my significant other about all the things you guys have mentioned here. I personally think the reason why I am so devastated is because I can wholeheartedly say that I never failed at anything;no matter what it was in my life that I did, if I put my my mind to it, I achieved it. Whether it be academia, athletics, personal goals I just never failed. Anytime I said something was gonna happen I worked myself to the bone until I made it happen, and it never took me long...EVER. This is truly my first failure in life; the first thing I ever said I was going to do and was unable to for what ever reason. When I started studying for this test, I had, not even the slightest of doubts, that I was going to score in the 170's, and now I am here, and no 170. It really does not help that I was always at the top of class in school as well, yes it might not be an ivy school, but I surely was surrounded by atleast some intelligent human beings. I stopped stressing so much about what I get on this test. I accepted my fate, and all I can do now is just continue to work hard, and make the best with what I have, after all it really is just a test.

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Thanks guys, its truly the individuals like you and eveyone else who has helped me on this forum that make this forum truly hold a special place in my lsat journey. I will continue on my pursuit to success disallowing this test the power to control my life, after all it is truly just a test.

@jy-ping my test date is feb which means I have no time for a break, and to be honest, if after 8 months of studying I can't break160, I might as well end the journey, before I go from "discouraged" to "devastated." Also, if 160 is really my ceiling then I must be really incompetent. After 8 months of studying, I should have been topping off in the 170's.

@rcscoggins486 I do hold myself to a high standard. I have never failed at anything in my life, whether it be athletics, or academics, so failing now is really hitting me hard. Also, to see my friends who were in the 140s get a 170+ while im just sitting here with not even a 150 score is just crushing to my spirit; it literally feels as if someone has just ripped my soul out of my body. It sounds a bit over dramatic, but its truly how I feel.

@wraith985-4026 Thank you, I will continue to nit pick at my error in reasoning and hopefully I will be able to overcome them. The reason why I don't want to pay for a tutor is because I just think I need to practice more with timed tests and with the difficult questions. I feel that a tutor at this point in my prep will only be telling me why my reasoning is wrong, and while that sounds great I have you and JY's videos to tell me that my reasoning is wrong and how I should change it. Also, I learn best from hands on experience such as taking tests and dissecting the answer choices. My issue was that for such a long time I did un-timed, older material, and now that I am doing timed new material everything is hitting me at once. The newer tests are more subtle with the answer choices on the more difficult questions, more so than the older tests, and I am still getting used to that, as well as the timing aspect. If worse comes to worse I will get a tutor for sure, but for now I am gonna take a stab at my errors in reasoning, notice more of the subtleties and see where that leads me. I am taking my first try at this test in FEB and will see how that goes, then I will prob take it again during the summer, and if by then I still do not understand that I will get a tutor. Thank you for your guidance, as well as everyone else's, it is always truly appreciated.

The way I approach every stim is with the mindset that the argument is not sound unless it is a MBT or MP question. Sometimes though, for the tougher questions, I cannot tell exactly what the answer is but I do know that the answer will always address the relationship between the P and C. For example, if the question is a weaken question and the conclusion says something like "thus, bob is not intelligent," I would know that one of the answer choices could say something like "Bob did not do well on his physics exam because he had chicken pox." I usually know what the answer choice will do, but sometimes what I have a problem with is that I analyze the answers so much that even the right answer seems like its wrong. Also sometimes for the tougher questions its difficult to figure out why that one answer is right because it seems so irrelevant when its really not. Maybe I am not that intelligent to see certain things?

So, @poonage65146 you have brought something to my attention. When testing, I think sometimes I don't really know exactly what is wrong about the relationship, and from there I let the answer choices guide me. Unfortunately, I feel like with that strategy that is where I might get bogged down because I analyze each answer choice wayy too much, and that creates overthinking, and more importantly, me somehow reasoning that the wrong answer is right. Do you think that could be the issue?

My next pt is tom, ill let you know how that goes.

also, @poonage65146 @twssmith644 @nye887085 @tanes25413, maybe I misunderstand what you mean by fundamentals, do you mind elaborating on what constitutes "fundamentals?"

Twssmith, I do know how to negate, but I agree with you, maybe I need to write out the AC's to see my personal pattern of reasoning on the wrong answers, and demolish that reasoning. I know I can def do it, I just need to patch a few holes, thank you.

I am able to identify 99.9% of the time what are the premises and the conclusion. I am also able to call upon what I need to do to get the question right, for example SA assumption questions there is a gap where a new idea is introduced which should be linked to an idea that the author assumes is the same. In flaw questions the author makes an error in reasoning from P to C. Weaken questions require us to, not attack the Premise, not attack the conclusion, but wreck the relationship between the Premise and conclusion. I know what I am supposed to do. I am usually getting the level 4 and 5 difficulty questions wrong, and most of the time the question is so subtle, and I am choosing the wrong attractive AC. I mean the questions I missed on PT 52 were pretty tough to be honest.

I would say my weakness varies on the difficulty of the questions to be honest. Most of the time, however I struggle with NA. NA questions take the most time for me, and sometimes flaw.

Thanks for the reply. My BR scores are not where they need to be, I will continue studying and use the analytic system on here to see what I am doing wrong. I am mostly getting down to 2 answers and choosing the wrong one, so I am not sure if that it is fundamentals or not to be honest.

No I have not, however I do not have the money to shell out for a tutor, nor do I actually want to shell out any more money. Thank you for the suggestion though.

I would not say the games are harder, but they are weird. With the older games, I would look and be able to identify what kind of game it is i.e. grouping sequencing etc... With test 48 I was only able to identify what 2 of the games were, but I should not really be all confused, after all it is only one test and I would need a larger data set for me to gauge me understanding.

@jyang72422 The 2nd game was not really bad, if you are fluent in reading conditionals. The last game I just had no clue on my first attemp.

@chelseyhn936.janson35 I am not planning on applying this cycle, Feb. Is wayy too late. I also want to take the Feb lsat because I am currently not working to study for the lsat, and after Feb I def will need a full time job I am running low on cash. If worse comes to worse, I will use the Feb test date as experience, and retake.

@tutordavidlevine115 Parents don't understand sometimes, and it is so frustrating. My parents especially do not understand that this test requires this much studying. I am Middle-Eastern, and I don't know if you have dealt with parents of this decent, but lemme tell you, they are stubborn as hell. Also, people who do not know about this test, and I tell them when I am taking it, their response is "WOW why so long, its just a test."

@chelseyhn936 I was thinking that I would take it in Feb, and then retake if I want.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO That is just totallllyyy hillarious.

@2543.hopkins Thanks, I def needed some reassurance. I could not even fall asleep last night stressing about this so hard.