JY's trademark "so what who cares" will forever live on as long as the lsat does as well
eat like a fatass so i can feel better about myself
i was hoping if there are any 7sagers with ADHD (or ADD) or even without that could maybe give some tips or pointers for writing the actual lsat/studying for the lsat. i find myself rereading LR questions and wasting precious time. also i find myself missing on key words and phrases because i read over it too fast. what are some methods that i can use that would be effective when studying for the actual test and also manage my time when answering them timed?
fraying i do well enough so i dont have to do the february one. that would be depressing
my recommendation for LR since i was/am in your situation is simply "SKIP, SKIP, SKIP". every second you waste on a question youre likely to get wrong takes away from spending time on a question that you couldve gotten right. when i was studying i just could not understand the whole skipping thing because i kept trying to answer all of them and id struggle to even get 11 right, id usually get 7 to 9 right. after i forced myself to abandoned what i was using i just trusted the 7sage method. i solve the first 10 in 10 minutes and make sure they are right since those questions are the easiest on the test (generally) and then for the remaining 15 or so i read each question and if i know that its going to take some time to figure it out i simply circle the question and go to the next one and all the questions i know i can solve and answer i get those right and the ones remaining i take whatever time is left and go with my best (educated) guess. one thing i always do now it that i ALWAYS skip the parallel reasoning (the really long questions) to the very end simply because they take the most time to read an understand.
by doing those i can average easily between 7-21 right consistently under timed conditions. your lr sections really benefit from optimizing your approach to your skillset. hope it helps :)
its such a hassle. i cant even talk about it with people after since many people will just write the regular one
so i got a call from the person who is proctoring me for my accomodated lsat and i find out that instead of my test being on the 3rd of next month its on the 6th, still at 8:30. has anyone experienced anything like this? i dont mind a later date though it does change up my schedule. my big question is that with the extra 3 days, would i be getting the same test as everyone else or would i be getting a new one and will it still have the test section
i would like some understanding for the strengthening/weakening question types. if an answer choice contain "some/most/many/few" or similar, should i presume that the answer choice would be more likely wrong than right? i was thinking it would lean towards being wrong because since those are not "all" or "none", they allow for outliers.
also, if the conclusion of the stimulus explicitly says "All x..." or "No y..." would "some/most/many/few/etc." answer choices lean more towards being right than wrong?
any help would be appreciated!
im in the same position as you. if you want to discus this matter privately pm me :)
im down for this
as ive been studying and reviewing questions ive been getting better at selecting answer choices and being confident in my choices (thinking "yup, i know this answer choice is right"), i come across a few questions (particularly in LR) that makes me do a double take. i can narrow it down to two answer choices and then the face the dilemma of i feel that a question is right on gut but i tend to go with the other choice because it seems to make more sense in my head. this tends to backfire on me and can cost me 2-3 points. can anyone give me some tips or advice for how to condition myself to lean on my instincts and commit to it. it was hard enough to gain confidence for my answer choices test as is
will definitely be there. i love reading the emails Larry sends out.
aside from the financial incentive of hopefully earning a stable paycheck and the prestiege. what i enjoy most about the law is that you can take the same facts/rules and argue for different sides. being able to understand and apply nuances is something i find to be very attracting intellectually. on a more personal note i think its also because of my own desires to make something of my life. my parents and i came from Bangladesh to Canada in 1996 in hopes of a better life and give me opportunities to become something. i want to take advantages of the opportunities afforded to me.
one time i would give you is after reading the question and stimulus, if you think/see that its going to take some time to figure out, skip the question and move on to the next one. point is you want to answer as many questions you know you can get right, and then worry about the questions that will take longer and/or are more difficult. helped me a lot
i know exactly how you feel. i panicked on the games section (and its my best section too) and i did bad so i cancelled my score. i dont want to wait another year either so i applied for the february test just now. like you its about scholarships for me, i dont want to be drowing in law school debt either. im riding on my lsat score as well because of bad grades. being a urm helps for me i guess but i dont know how effective itll be. i know that there might be less money come march applications but less money is better than little to no money. it sucks but no other option sadly
i hope someone puts this on google calender soon so i can add it to my calender :)
im sure youll get approved, as long as you show proof. my school doc has been seeing me for 2 years and i have accommodations from the school too. i bombed on the games section so i have to do the test again. im studying again from the beginning of the games and try to do 2-3 practice tests a week
i registered for the february test as well and i did the december accommodated test. i was doing well on the test until i got to the games section and pretty much froze, only answering 13 of the questions. i would have gotten in the low 150s im sure but its not good enough. it sucks :(. i wonder if i have to reapply for accommodations again or just call them
congratulations! i found this tuesday out that im getting extended time as well :)
i was wondering what peoples thoughts were. Basically taking an acceptance from one school and show it to competitor schools in hopes of the competitor school to offer a better package to accept their offer instead. For example, im trying to get a 170 on the LSAT so i can get an acceptance letter from Vanderbilt. i would like to take that to another school thats maybe lower in ranking or in the same geographical area and see if they would offer me more scholarship/grant/stipens to accept their school instead. if its possible i would like to try it against schools such as Bama or Ole Miss (theyre all in the SEC) or maybe a school like Southern Methodist University. With the cost of law school as is and being from Canada, anything i can do to get as much of it paid by the school i go to i will. if anyone has tried doing this, how has that worked out for you?
im trying to understand why it is such that after a while of scoring in the same range on a section or the entire test, all of a sudden it just all "clicks" and makes sense. like for the longest time ive consistently been struggling with the Logical Reasoning section and no matter how hard i tried i was routinely scored single digits, double digits if im lucky. Now when i do a LR section i can not only score 17-18 consistently, but when im reading questions and looking for answer choices i can notice an answer choice and (mentally) go "yup, thats the right answer" without hesitation or self doubt. This little phenomena i find to be perplexing because it wasnt like i was studying even more, or revising. i just stopped studying all together for a month and a half (i know i shouldnt have, with the lsat coming up), and now got back to it. im sure some of y'all have experienced something similar so what do y'all think it happens like that?
this is what my entire email said:
Dear Rakin A. Khan:
The Law School Admission Council (LSAC) has done a preliminary screening of your file and currently you have not been granted any accommodations for the December 3, 2016 Law School Admission Test (LSAT).
In order to proceed, you must indicate which of the options described below you intend to pursue by replying to this email no later than 11:59 ET on November 2, 2016. If you do not reply by that date your request to include the accommodations listed below which you are currently eligible will be withdrawn. You will remain registered to test as a standard test taker.
We have determined that you are currently eligible for the following accommodations on the December 3, 2016 LSAT:
50% Additional Test time on all sections of the test as follows:
Section 1 53 minutes total
Section 2 53 minutes total
Section 3 53 minutes total
Section 4 53 minutes total
Section 5 53 minutes total
Writing Sample 35 minutes total
Break time as follows:
After Section 1 10 minutes total
After Section 2 10 minutes total
After Section 3 15 minutes total standard break
After Section 4 10 minutes total
After Section 5 10 minutes total
However, we cannot process the remainder of your request and determine your eligibility for more than 50% extended time per section because the documentation required to support these requests was not submitted.
Inasmuch as the deadline for the December 3, 2016 LSAT has passed, you now have two options:
1. You can revise your request and accept the accommodations described above for which you are currently eligible.
Or
2. If you wish to pursue your request for more than 50% extended time for a future LSAT you must submit an appropriately documented statement of need which is available at http://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/jd-docs/statement-of-need.pdf
Accommodated Testing
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obviously i just went with the first one since i dont want to do the lsat in february because that would be cutting it close to the march deadlines for applications. when i emailed them back i received an auto reply saying:
Your E-mail correspondence has been received by Accommodated Testing at the Law School Admission Council (LSAC). Due the high volume of inquiries/comments we receive, please allow up to two weeks for a reply. Duplicate E-mail messages may delay your response. We do not confirm receipt of documentation/information; you should retain evidence of all transmittals sent by facsimile. You might choose to send documentation via an express service that confirms receipt. To assist us in our response, candidate messages should include the individual's name and LSAC account number. Candidates should visit their LSAC online account under LSAT status for the current status of his/her request.
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when i replied to them i didnt put my lsac number just my whole name but i didnt think it would be a problem because i replied directly to the original message. i went on the lsac website to check my status but when i did i dont see anything saying about my application being under review like before. its just blank all across. im kinda getting worried @ @ @
anything i possible. my friend got accepted to UVA with a 159LSAT and a 4.0GPA. you wont find out till you apply, the worst they can say is "no" :)
I asked for non scantron when I filled up the accommodations forms but they didn't say anything about it in my email. I assumed that I wasn't eligible for it @
they gave me both the options that you mentioned @, since i didnt need anything else and dont want to push off my test date so i just went with the first one
i dont think so because the only other thing i asked for is a non-scantron sheet to make it a little bit easier and they didnt mention anything about it so idk is thats the reason why i still havent heard back from them yet to confirm. the extra time and the break was exactly what i asked for so to know that im eligible for that makes me happy. what do you think, should i study under regular time or do my practice under extended time, @? it sucks that i have to wait a while to fully know.
i havent received my final letter yet @ :/, i responded right away and all i got back was an automated email saying that they have received my reply. i did it on monday and i have yet to receive a final letter on whether or not i have been fully approved. i dont know if i should study with normal time again or do my prep tests under the accommodated time. i would assume since im eligible and provided my documents that i would hopefully be approved. for my documents i provided a document from the school stating which accommodations through the school that i receive for my classes and documents from my doctor (who also signed my lsat forms) with disability history showing back to 2014. i would hope thats enough given the fact that this was enough to allow me to be eligible for the accommodations that i already wanted but i dont know how long i have to wait to know for sure :(
idk what your email said @ but for my email from accommodations it said that i had to reply back to the email to accept the accommodations im eligible for. im the same way when it comes to practice testing. with the added time i do way better so bring it doesnt help as much :/
fairly simple question, how much more would a law school be willing to accept a student with a high LSAT score but a low GPA?
for some background: currently my GPA is a 2.0 with a year and a half's worth of credits underneath my belt and 2 and a half years left to go (7.5/20 credits to graduate; 5 credits a year). i was in a flux with my first three years of college not knowing what to do and underachieving/dropping classes. ever since i decided to go to law school last summer i made a serious effort to change my life around and completely became a different person. i also addressed my ADHD, depression, anxiety, and sleep problems so im in a much better position than i was before. Now i do whatever it takes to get my grades as high as i can so i can go above a 3 at least. in order to graduate on time to start law school by next august i basically have to do 2.5 years of school in 1.5 years. apart from school i study for the LSAT whenever i can and also be more involved with my fraternity.
with that all said, my dream law school is Vanderbilt Law. i havent been able to visit being all the way from canada but from my research it just seem ideal for me in terms of location, atmosphere, environment, academic quality, etc. I also know that the schools tuition alone is ~$50,000. because of that i have committed myself to scoring over a 170 on test day. its higher than the 75%ile of 168 but i want to earn a full ride. i am confident that if i study, and work hard i can get the score.
My fear is that even with a high lsat score i wont be accepted or wont get the kind of scholarship money im going for (i fall under under represented minority but i dont use that as a crutch). Am i overthinking this or am i reasonable to worry? (i literally cannot go a day anymore without thinking about being accepted to the school, its that bad) any sort of guidance would help please!!
i was wondering if you guys know how the testing will differ from normal testing. i received an email yesterday from lsac with the following:
"We have determined that you are currently eligible for the following accommodations on the December 3, 2016 LSAT:
50% Additional Test time on all sections of the test as follows:
Section 1 53 minutes total
Section 2 53 minutes total
Section 3 53 minutes total
Section 4 53 minutes total
Section 5 53 minutes total
Writing Sample 35 minutes total
Break time as follows:
After Section 1 10 minutes total
After Section 2 10 minutes total
After Section 3 15 minutes total standard break
After Section 4 10 minutes total
After Section 5 10 minutes total
....."
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i replied back to their email saying that i accept the accommodations i am eligible for and hope to hear back with knowledge that i have been fully approved. hopefully i hear back from them this week with a full confirmation.
How does it go on from here though. i would assume that the test will start on the same day and time like everyone else but would i be placed in a different room from everyone else and/or given a different test? the lsac website isnt really clear on this. if i was to finish my section before the time limit for each section (after reviewing and checking my answers of course) would i be allowed to tell the proctor that i finished and be able to move on to the next section?
Also for those who are writing theirs under accommodated conditions or have done it in the past, how did you change/adjust your study approach to the lsat. seeing how i am just finding out now i have only a month left to work under the new timed conditions for myself so any advice/tips/tricks on how to approach the lsat during test time would be gladly appreciated :)
for some reason i cant connect to the group :/
legit surprised jy hasnt cashed in on this money making scheme @.rizeq, would make some good vacation change