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Wednesday, Jun 15 2016

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate all the feedback!

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Sunday, Mar 13 2016

Thanks everyone for the advice, I really appreciate it.

I would agree @'t Get Right At this point I should delay my test. I have butchered a test before and time is a better solution than haphazard attempts.

Both you and @ mention using 1-35 as drilling material. How do you do this? Do you mean taking the whole tests while I am trying to master games or reviewing critical sections I am rusty on piece by piece?

@ as far as games go, I am not sure where to begin. I seem to do better in games where formal logic is a core piece of the game, such as when you have to chain everything together. I am probably strongest in basic sequencing games as a result. I have an issue of knowing when to draw out multiple game boards. I think overall, I am just slow at making inferences, or slow in general. Some games (albeit a small few) I can get -0 on if I take my time with them, but it seems like a pointless confidence boost because spending a half hour on a game just reminds me that it won't fly during the test. Most of the time I am unable to finish new games. I get stumped and after 20 or 30 minutes of working on it and make no progress, so I usually end up watching the video to see what it is I'm doing wrong. I feel like I leave my games in little boxes, as in I see each game and it's inferences in that specific game, but when I do a similar game it doesn't seem similar to me, and I don't make similar inferences in that game, if that makes sense.

I have been doing the full proof method for awhile now and have seen some great progress but now I am at a point where I feel that I am just memorizing the games rather than really learning from them. Also working full-time I feel limited because I basically have from 6-11 to study and then I'll get up around 5 and work out, and study a little more until I go to work. More or less in all that time that's only a few game sets for me.

I work a full-time job and life has a habit of getting in the way of my law school dreams. I've been doing this program regularly since last October give or take and have had a series of setbacks. Right now I still have about 25% of the curriculum left to cover before the June LSAT. I was blowing though the curriculum pretty quickly until I hit the games section.

A one hour problem set lesson takes me 2-3 hours, usually. I just legitimately suck at games and see very little improvement with them, that is about as honest as I can be. I study about 3-4 hours a night, 4-5 on the weekends. BR'ing a game set is a huge commitment for me. It is depressing to watch what minimal progression a full night of studying does, but to know I have so much more to progress through honestly makes me rage quit my study sessions.

So, I need some advice. For reasons I don't feel like disclosing, I have to be in law school by fall of 2017.. I want to take the June LSAT and games are the only thing I have left. Should I just start doing prep tests and reviewing the rest of the curriculum in my off time? What other courses of actions would some veterans or others who have been in my shoes recommend?

Also one last question. For those of you that may have completed the program like I have been having to do (kind of spread out over a longer period) what was your strategy for condensing and reviewing the material you were rusty on? I know it all builds on each other but I know I have definitely forgotten some stuff. I appreciate any suggestions you have, thank you.

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Sunday, Jun 12 2016

rcscoggins486

Putting It All Together

Howdy Folks,

I'm thankfully coming to the end of this course after a long fought struggle with LG. I wanted to ask some of you veterans our there: I've been covering the LG portion of this course with a lot of patience and I haven't touched a lot on my other skills. I wanted to ask what were some of the ways many of you put the course all together for yourselves. Did you begin prep tests and pick a few days a week to go back through the old material? Did you dive right into the prep tests and only review the old material as you needed to while doing your BR? Did you take a few weeks to review old material before diving in? Thanks for any feedback folks, I appreciate it.

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Sunday, Sep 11 2016

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Post Syllabus Study Approach

Hi Folks,

So I'm currently in that fun period where I've finished the curriculum and have been working my way through 3-4 months worth of prep tests. I've found the analytics are really helpful in determining where I'm lacking. I'm trying to determine how you make the best of that information. I work full-time so I don't have as much time as a student might, but I attempt to take 3 prep tests a week. I do my BR, go through my missed questions at that point, and then try to shore up my weaknesses. I don't have unlimited time- so determining how to make those weaknesses less soft is what I focus on.

How do others do this? Do you review old curriculum and drill? I've been reviewing in the curriculum on my weak points and running through a few drills, but I find my lackluster performance in these same weak areas goes mostly unchanged with the next prep test. Is there a specific way I need to approach addressing these weaknesses?

Also another factor is I take awhile to BR. For example, Games are really really hard for me. And despite the extensive games curriculum with this course I find I still only get to two games in a test so my BR is basically me redoing half of the games section. When I BR I often times can figure the other games out if I sit down and work through it without JY's video, It just might take an hour or two to get through it all. So for areas like that where I am struggling- I know the curriculum, I've drilled games before (because all games are the same right?) but I know that I'm weak in something like In/Out Seq games, or something like that. How do you go about addressing those weaknesses for yourself? Do you have a different method for LR or other sections? My Flaw/Method Reasoning questions are my biggest weakness and I review the curriculum and drill those but find that the performance is unchanged.

Any help that can be provided is most appreciated, thank you.

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rcscoggins486
Wednesday, Jan 06 2016

There is nothing wrong with holding yourself to a high standard, but everyone does have limits. It sounds to me that you have excelled in most arenas during your high school and college careers. That's great for you. That was never my experience, I never excelled at anything unless I put in a ton of elbow grease, and I failed at some things constantly. It sounds like this is the first time you are meeting with failure in your life, so take it as a learning experience. It won't be the last time you fail at something, believe me. To try in the face of failure builds both character and confidence. Like I said, it's your decision, but you have already talked yourself out of it before considering the possibilities of taking the test in June or October. Life isn't perfect, our road isn't straight and doesn't hardly ever go like we dream it will, but you can get there if it is what you want above anything else, you have to make that decision for yourself.

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rcscoggins486
Wednesday, Jan 06 2016

Howdy,

I was kind of in your shoes at one point. I was actually a great standardized test taker, did well on my SATs and other standardized tests. I rather humiliatingly went into a Kaplan course with a great hubris on my shoulders, thinking I would destroy this test, only to score a 143 after finishing the course.

I have fared better with this course, no doubt. I hope you continue to improve as well. I know you feel like you are at the end of your rope. You feel like you have done everything. You feel like you have exhausted everything in your potential. I know how you feel, because I soon discovered also that no matter what I did, it didn't matter, I still sucked.

I sulked around for a bit, got angry, and got back on the horse. That's what you have to do. I don't know your background or your hopes and dreams, but if you want this as a career path, then you have to do your very best. Maybe the best you can do is a mid 140. Maybe that is the best I will ever do. I don't know. All I know is that this is a stupid test, and your career won't be defined by it. No one after you graduate law school is going to care about your LSAT score one bit, unless they are that full of themselves that they need to hold it over people. I am not a naturally gifted student. I worked my butt off in college every night to earn my grades. There are some people out there who are just geniuses, others who are not of that caliber. I could study for five years and not score as well as J.Y. or half the people on 7Sage, but you just have to do the best you can do, and move on.

I hope this has helped. I at lease empathize with you, but you can't quit on yourself if this is something you want. I'm not quitting, I'll do whatever it takes. The thing is, the test is learnable. Some people learn faster than others. You may be putting too high of an expectation on yourself. Perhaps you need to take a year or two to study for the test. For me that is what has worked. It sucks, I wanted to be in law school awhile ago and now working full-time makes it hard to study, but long term commitment for me has been the only way I have seen improvement. I had to learn to be patient with my own expectations. Some of my friends went from 150-165 in three months. That just wasn't me, and it may not be you, you can't put that pressure on yourself.

Whatever you decide, good luck. Remember to give yourself a chance, and mostly remember that it is just a test.

Sincerely.

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