So i agree with the previous two comments about LG but i want to add that you need to look at your analytics. For example, if you struggle with grouping games more than sequencing, you need to drill the hell out of grouping games (but be cautious, never ignore any type of game). So for LG, keep fool proofing and always understand the logic behind inferences.

Same thing applies to LR, where are you going wrong? is it MC, SA, NA, MSS, etc.. figure where you are weak and where you are strong to gather the most points there.

For example, you're good in MC/AP/PF questions, aim to never miss them in any drills.

Second, are you getting 10 in 10? if you are then good, if not then start drilling 10 easy questions and get them correct in under 10 mins (personal tip here: be confident here, once you choose an answer, move on to the next question)

Go back to the CC and refresh your memory and never underestimate the fundamentals because they make all the difference in every section.

Hope these will help!

@ Thanks a lot, I appreciate the insight!

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Hi there, I posted a response in another thread that pretty much outlines 3 steps to take to consistently break plateaus: (1) Standardized LR question-specific strategies; (2) Skipping Strategies; and (3) Wrong Answer Choice journals.

I'll just add that if you have a limited amount of tests to take, you may want to consider reusing some PTs you've already seen before to learn any new strategies, and only apply them to new PTs once you are comfortable with it. For example, if you're learning a new skipping strategy, make sure you try it on older material first.

Hope this helps!

Thanks a lot, it makes a lot of sense. But do you think that I could do this for sections rather than PT's? Like for days that are specific for LR, I would pull out a section from a past PT and implement my new strategy. I figured that doing this would be better for lower mental fatigue and I could figure out where my weakness would lie in each section. Where then I would fix them, repeat the cycle til I get the result I need and then go to a fresh PT.

My first question would be on how many PT's did you base your second claim, and two are they more recent or not?

I say this because I did some quick percentage math on some of the PT's I did and it varies, some sections have answers D and E be 44% of the time correct. Others have it as low as 24%.

So, math wise you might be wrong.

However, psychologically, you may be onto something. Especially for questions that you don't anticipate the answer for. But as the percentages don't tell us anything to be certain of according to my math (I may be wrong, i didn't account for every PT out there), the trap answer choices may as well be in the end. Which would make going in reverse a matter of personal choices rather than pure tactical.

@ Thank you for the explanation, the distinction makes sense so we can stick to not attacking the premise.

I've also found a webinar that talks about a specific approach towards weaken and strengthen questions in which they cover this question, which i also found really helpful so we can wrap our head on the logic of this question.

Here's the link of the webinar: https://classic.7sage.com/webinar/weaken-strengthen/

the explanation starts at 1:04:00, but to fully understand the approach you need to start watching 40:00. If you have time, watch the whole thing as it might add to your arsenal for these questions.

@ I'm on the same mindset. It's just that I have limited amount of prep tests that makes me very cautious with whatever approach I take.

I glimpsed over the word "not" in AC B.... alright that's enough lsat for the day.

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Yes. You should also tell them to stop the timer if they need to stop you for anything during the test.

I used it multiple times, they should know that it's allowed. If they don't, it doesn't matter what they do because LSAC made it clear that test takers can use it. So, worst case scenario (at least to me) is that they stop you from taking the test then you complain to LSAC, who will get you a retake on a different day.

Naturally, I'd say that it will take you a couple of weeks but tbh every person is different in how they bounce back. What I would do if I was in your situation is I would drill sections and see how I compare with my past self. You might be surprised and see that you retained a significant amount of LSAT knowledge. If you did then great, if not then review some of the CC to refresh your memory ( you might even see that now you have a fresh perspective on certain concepts that might help you improve on past mistakes). Once you feel that you are ready to take a PT, then go ahead and see where you land. No matter where you do though, you will have a better idea on what to target to reach your goal.

I went into the AC's fully understanding the stimulus and where I can weaken the argument. I saw the ACs and should've went "fuck this, its not worth my time" but instead I fell into "I need to get this question right". Did I get it right? No. Should I have skipped and got more easy points in the bag then came back to this question? Yes.

BS question with even more BS ACs but the lesson is to skip and be more aggressive with it.

First of all, you are in the right mindset as you're trying to improve. That's key.

Try to relax or pump yourself up before studying. For example meditate, exercise, play music that gets you going, or anything to get you in the "zone". This will eliminate the nerves that may cause you to misread or keep reading the rules which is ultimately shooting yourself in the foot.

Then, have a specified game plan/routine with the exam itself. For example, you may want to only circle 5 questions when you finish an LR section to go back to for round 2, others prefer 10, everyone got their styles and game plan that works for them. What I want you to do is to feel in control of the test by having a game plan.

- This point is very important so I want to drill it more in your head with a real life example. If I tell you that you need to run an 8 minute mile on the track. With knowing that it's only 4 laps, how would you go on towards doing it? maybe if you're a beginner you will go on full sprinting the first two laps, exhausting yourself and maybe be able to finish the last two. But if have more experience you will have a game plan such as to have a pace of 2 minutes per lap and finish the mile like a walk in the park. You strive to be the second person, when you're in control you feel more relaxed towards achieving a goal you want and most likely will get rid of the nerves.

Another point is to try different methods. You mention that you keep rereading the rules, is this because of lack of practice or is it because you're nervous. If you keep rereading because you don't understand how to interpret "or/not both rule" or a conditional chain then drop the ego and go back. Learn the lesson til you can explain it to someone else in a simple manner, then move on to the next lesson. If you have solid foundations but you are nervous, then set a game plan, trust yourself and see how it goes. If the game plan for LG needs some adjustment then adjust it, that's how you figure out what's best for you in order to perform well.

I have found these to be useful for me and hopefully they will for you. Feeling in control of the test and properly doing BR is how you learn. When you learn, you understand, then you avoid making the same mistakes and then you improve.

"no moral.."Lmaooooo, go on J.Y., speak your mind.

"you must be defying gravity holding that giant head of yours up" LMAOOOOOO

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Ok y’all, like the rest I had to wait for over an hour. My situation was even worse because I got cleared just to get told to exit and log back in. Then…. Yes you guessed it I had to wait even more. Nonetheless, during that time I got hold of LSAC and was told that no test taker should wait for over 45 minutes and was instructed to file a complaint for a retake. So, if it’s happening to currently and you have waited for over 45 minutes, file a complaint and take it easy for today. It’s not worth it to add stress on an already stressful test.

Just wanna be clear. If I waited over 45 minutes (which I did) I can likely ask for and receive a free retake?

Yes, that’s what I’ve been told. Just note in the complaint description as well.

Ok y’all, like the rest I had to wait for over an hour. My situation was even worse because I got cleared just to get told to exit and log back in. Then…. Yes you guessed it I had to wait even more. Nonetheless, during that time I got hold of LSAC and was told that no test taker should wait for over 45 minutes and was instructed to file a complaint for a retake. So, if it’s happening to currently and you have waited for over 45 minutes, file a complaint and take it easy for today. It’s not worth it to add stress on an already stressful test.

Hard to say as everyone's situation is unique to some extent but I would recommend to look at your 7sage analytics in each section, review the foundations of your weak spots in the CC then drill them. Take PTs, BR, repeat.

Hope this helps!

@ I've been getting test centers for a while but honestly don't want to miss out on a remote spot just bc they are having technical issues

other than @ did anyone get a spot bc it seems like it's technical issues rather than filled spots

same here

ngl, getting the right answer in timed conditions and BR feels good but eliminating B for the right reason and seeing that others here align with it feels better.

GROUP CLOSED

A somewhat similar flaw is seen in PT67.4.14. The only difference is that the beliefs in this question is by the same critics rather than two different types of authorities.

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best believe the bubbles are always poppin (on the low the website is fire lol).

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Thank you for the detailed answer, I will definitely implement some of these strategies with the next PT.