First, are we allowed to discuss which section was experimental on a nondisclosed test? And second, if so, anyone who took it want to help figure out which sections were experimental? I had two LG sections.
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Yeah, until we hear more about what we are allowed to say it's best to be vague. The water on the moon is 100% experimental. :)
Right (premises) move right.
Wrong (premises), everything left is wrong.
What this means if is something is right everything to the right of it has to be right. Right here means it matches your chain. A not x, for example, would be right by being not x.
If something is wrong, everything to the left (everything left) is also wrong. Meaning it all has to be reversed. (Not x becomes x, y becomes not y)
Remember the topic of any game from your lg? I did really really well on one lg section, and the other one was.... let's just say it could go either way lol.... It was my first section and I wasn't locked in at all.
Also do you remember your rc? I can definitely tell you which was real I remember it perfectly. Pretty sure I got -0/-1 on it.
I just use OLAR , or left, and right. Makes it super easy for me at least to remember which splits. I mean it really does make common sense if you think about.it, but the little anagram really helps for quick changes in LGs.
To do demorgans I just reverse the sufficient and necessary (including and/or) then apply the rule.
Hey,
I used this site before taking my first LSAT around two years ago. I am planning on taking the LSAT again and starting up a new course. When I was here last, PDFs were on site. I believe I purchased quite a few of them, would I still have access to them now if I returned?
Thanks
I'm one of those who is guilty of not really BRing. Which probably explains the chart.
Thanks for the responses you two.
Yes looking at it a lot more closely in conjunction with which question types I have historically been missing has led me to find some possible errors. I have gotten some question type packets and am drilling those to try to correct this.
Also that is true Ron, I definitely need to get that down to a reliable -0/-2 and then yes I could almost guarantee myself at least a 170.
Proctors: 3 Japanese proctors. I believe they all spoke English quite well. They were friendly and professional.
Facilities: A large classroom on the third floor of their downtown Tokyo campus building. Well lit and quiet. Toilets literally a few feet down the hall from testing classroom. A nice break room/lounge/cafeteria sort of space for the break time. It had several long tables, a few vending machines and a couple couches.
What kind of room: A large classroom.
How many in the room: 20-30
Desks: Standard three person wide desk/tables, with 2 students at each desk separated on either end of the tables. More than ample space.
Left-handed accommodation: Large desks so would definitely not be a problem. Not sure if you would get a specific side of the desk or anything if you asked though.
Noise levels: Very quiet. The building seemed closed except for test takers and perhaps a few students who knew about the back entrance and had business on the weekends. Only saw one other person during the test day there.
Parking: None. Being Tokyo most people came by train or were dropped off by someone or a taxi in front of the school.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: Seemed quite speedy compared to my U.S. test experience. Think we actually started moving around 8:35-8:40 and then the test soon after the pre-test materials were finished.
Irregularities or mishaps: None whatsoever.
Other comments: Like most things in Japan; it was professional, well-run and went off without a hitch.
Would you take the test here again? Yes and I am next weekend. I can update this if anything changes.
Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec. 2015 / Feb. 28th, 2016 (future)
Anyone else's section performance analytics look like this? Kind of all over the place? I consistently get around my average score, but what I miss in each section kind of feels up for grabs... Every score minus 3 (174, 165, 165) is between 168-170. Guess I need to keep working on individual question types...? It's just that as is, this really doesn't tell me shit other than they are slowly tightening towards the end.

EDIT: Corrected image link.
Yaay!!! Thank you!
I can't grasp why B weakens this argument and C doesn't. The only scenario I can think of is if a symptom of a disease is required for that disease, but can't a disease have multiple symptoms that aren't always present? Just because not all victims of ebola aren't afflicted with hiccups doesn't mean that many aren't. And also the questions stem itself says hiccups were experienced by "many", not all... If all victims of ebola were afflicted, then yeah that would definitely weaken it, but I don't see how it does not.
As for C, I don't see how that could weaken it less than B, since there are plenty of ways someone could have been infected outside of athens and brought the disease back to the city....
So how did everyone do?
While I'm disappointed a bit that I just missed getting top 1% because I know I'm capable of it, I'm very happy with my score!
I'm thinking I did exactly like I thought after the test. LG -4/-6??, RC -0/-1, LR -0/-2, LR -1/-3. It fits my score.
FINALLY finished with the LSAT!!! WOOHOO
Thanks for the reply runiggyrun!
The title does say PTB.S1.Q17? At least it does for me.
Yeah, well I know for sure that B, C, and D are incorrect. I guess I should have eliminated E, because there is just a little bit of leeway there and gone with A as a process of elimination, but still, just a weird LR.
For me, once I felt like I was doing decently well and felt I had a pretty good understanding of the concepts I started trying to never second guess myself and just go with my first instinct, especially on easier LR's. I find most of my misses came from over thinking. That strategy served me well.
Also, come test day, my main tip would be stay with whatever approach works. It is VERY easy to over think every question on the actual test because you think this is the REAL thing and I better make certain on every one. This can not only cause you to make the mistakes you're talking about, but also eats into valuable time and can throw your timing off. Last LSAT I was guilty of this the first section (LR), and my grade suffered for it. I would suggest make a point to replicate exactly what you did when practicing.
What you have to ask yourself in this question is how the astronomer is claiming that the stars, from his hypothesis, could resolve the conflict - or, what would make them different from the stars in the earlier estimates?
What is missing is a way for his explanation to make the stars younger. The two differences he states are that they are 1) farther away, and 2) must thus be much brighter. So which answer choice ties one of these two differences to the stars being younger?
C - The brighter a star is, the younger it is. - Thus if they must be much brighter than previously thought, and a much brighter star is much younger, then his explanation dissolves the discrepancy.
-- That's how I got the answer anyways
Can someone help me with this? It is one of the questions where the reasoning for the right answer completely eludes me...
The MSS Question basically states that:
"There is a difference between morals and manners. Manners are 'necessarily social in nature', whereas morals are 'not necessarily social in nature'. 'So the rules of etiquette do not apply when one is alone.'
The correct answer is:
A: "One could be immoral without ever having caused any other person any harm." - Huh?
I went with:
E: "What is social in nature could not be a matter of morality." - I figured, sure why not, if morals are 'not necessarily social in nature' and manners are, then something, say a manner, could definitely be social in nature while not a matter of morality... Right?
See title.
http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-1-question-25/
Ok, a can be properly inferred if which of the following is assumed questions.
I disagree with the right answer on this one.
In the first sentence the question states, verbatim, that "a folktale is a traditional story told in an entertaining way, which may lead some to think that folktales lack deeper meaning". It goes on to disagree with this and say that they are passed on through generations and thus provides great insight into the wisdom of the culture.
So as I see it there are two possible required assumptions. 1) That any tale that provides insight into the wisdom of a culture has a deeper meaning. OR 2) That any tale that is passed along through generations is capable of providing said insight and wisdom.
Right off the bat A) answers number 2 so I tentatively circled it, but decided to check for any that answered 1, which would be a stronger answer in my opinion.
B) on first glance seems to answer 1, but in my opinion doesn't, so was just put there as a trap I figured, being the last question.
B) which actually turns out to be the correct answer, states that "Any tale that provides insight into the wisdom of a culture is deeply meaningful in some respect."
Here is my problem with B, How is "deeply meaningful" and containing "deeper meaning" in any way the same thing? Something having a deeper meaning implies that under its surface it has another, "deeper" meaning. That in NO way to me implies that it has to be "deeply meaningful" which to me simply means it has an strong impact on the reader/listener. For B to be correct, in my mind, either it must read something like "Any tale that provides insight into the wisdom of a culture has a deeper meaning." or the stem must be changed to say "...that folktales lack meaningfulness".
Am I simply mistaken about the meaning of "deeply meaningful" and what the phrase "lack deeper meaning" implies?
I agree with bro, you get pretty good at knowing when you have the right choice with no need to read the others v. When you have the 'right' choice, but still want to at least skim the other four. Once you get comfortable with that then it's it's easy to know which is which.
Edit: I'd also say, though, if you practice by skipping answer choices on ones you know, make sure to still do that on the actual test. I got burned by that on dec. test, figured since it was the real test I had to check every answer choice and think about them on every question and really messed up my timing.
I applied late so I am still actually waiting on a few schools, but as of right now it's a toss up between Wash u, Michigan, Texas, and Georgetown.
Only one school I applied to required that you fill in that blank lol. So I listed a few of their competitors. I left all others blank like Pacifico.
Treat it the same way as "The answer to which one of the following questions would most help in evaluating the argument above" questions. The answers will just be worded slightly different.
URM with a 173/3.45?
My guess is you are a shoe-in at any school you want.
Thank you Stepharizona! Are you taking it as well?
Im ready for it I think... last five PT's are 170/169/169/170/170 so I should be all right. I wish I could get those PT's up to the 173/174 range though for a little bit more leeway to underperform on the test. 3 and a half weeks till the test though, so gonna try. Good luck everyone!
I actually have no idea, wouldn't want to find out though lol. Might send you to sleep with the fishes.
Oh, I think we had 102 questions? Anyone else more certain?
Congratulations!!
Lol, I just checked mine too, and that's the quickest gray day turn around I've ever seen :p It says my score email date was 2/29/16 apparently.
And Puiniha, read above, it's answered here.
And on a side note, what are you all predicting as far as your scores? If the experimental LG had been real for me I'd be predicting a 174-177 from how I felt, but alas it wasn't, so I really have no idea. I'm hoping I only did badly enough to warrant a low 170's, but could definitely see it dipping into high 160's. That's just my gut feeling though, it takes for granted that I did as well in the RC and LR's as I felt I did. I feel like I managed LG -4/-6??, RC -0/-1, LR -0/-2, LR -1/-3. So Here's to hoping.
Had that too, not sure which of two sections though.
If you consistently get to the last RC section with 5 minutes left I say you're spending to much time on previous sections and work on that.
BUT, if you do arrive with only 5 minutes left I suggest reading about and learning how to skim. Effective skimming is an important skill. Read the first and last sentence of each paragraph and learn how to skim the middles to get what you need. Skimming a RC quickly in a minute to a minute and a half, the spending the last 4 to 3 and a half minutes answering its questions as best as you can is the best case scenario I would think.