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Hey so does anyone know what question types appear the most on the lsat and which appear the least? I wanted to know so i could study accordingly and focus on getting the ones that appear the most right.
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sweetsana2727
Saturday, Nov 29 2014
thanks :) so strengthen questions will usually say strengthen in them?
So the following question type:
Which one of the following statements is most supported by the information above?
Is that an MSS question or a strengthen question?
And what about these two inference questions? What question type to they fit into?
1. Which one of the following can be properly inferred from the information above?
2. Which one of the following inferences conforms most closely to the philosopher's position?
So the valid argument forms are used for MBT, SA questions and logic games only or am I missing something else? Also what about existential quantifiers? Will we mostly see them on logic games only? I went through all the games and I am guessing that they will be mostly on grouping and in/out games.
sweetsana2727
Friday, Apr 24 2015
But thanks for explaining this, would you know if we could use the argument forms to better answer this question?
sweetsana2727
Friday, Apr 24 2015
Oh im sorry I didn't know about that.
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I was picking between B and D. I had no idea it could be C. And I really don't even know which argument form to put this in so please help! Thanks!
sweetsana2727
Sunday, Nov 23 2014
its a separate two page sheet, and then you get the little booklet with the questions. so you get two pieces of paper from them, its the same as the act if you can remember from high school
sweetsana2727
Wednesday, Mar 18 2015
where do you all get the bundles from? Please let me know. thanks :)
sweetsana2727
Friday, Apr 17 2015
@ is there any discount being offered? I already took the course once before but I didn't really get a chance to study well enough that time but I knew if I could put in the time, I would definitely improve so I paid twice for the starter but I should have chosen the ultimate. let me know if I can get a discount. Thanks!
sweetsana2727
Thursday, Apr 16 2015
oh okay, I took the lsat in December and I was trying to blind review on that but I guess I cant watch the explanation videos for that one because it wasn't included in my package.. just tests 36-43, so now I'll just take those tests and review them. Thanks!
So to see explanations from previous test questions, we have to upgrade to the ultimate package? I have the starter pack and I was trying to see explanation videos to questions I missed on the prep tests for blind review but it tells me I cant access that. Even though it says on the starter pack that 1000+ real lsat questions are explained. someone please explain which ones I can review. I'm thinking its only the 9 pts that came with the starter pack from pt 36-43. Anyone else who has the starter pack please let me know how this works. Thanks!
sweetsana2727
Thursday, Apr 16 2015
@ can you please send me the games you mentioned so I could try to play those? thanks! my email is sweetsana_27@.com
sweetsana2727
Monday, Apr 13 2015
hey guys, I just brought logic games bundle from pts 41-60, i thought it would be good to drill all the newer games, and plus a friend of mine gave me her older Kaplan books which have most of the older pts from the 90s so i think that should be good for me. Thanks for all the help everyone :)
sweetsana2727
Friday, Apr 10 2015
@ What do you mean by the LG bundle? Are you talking about the hw sets at the end of each type of game?
sweetsana2727
Thursday, Aug 07 2014
Thank you Joe,
Can you please tell me where the scorer is? I have the starter course so is it included in that? Please let me know.
Thanks!
Sana
sweetsana2727
Tuesday, Apr 07 2015
Thank you so much everyone, I think im going to focus on games for two weeks and then go back to LR. LR is half of the test so I rather spend more time on that than RC.
If I plan on studying logic games for this whole month then what is a good amount of number of games to play per day? I was thinking of going over 8 games a day. I pretty much understand plain sequencing games but in some games like the in/out games you need to know about biconditionals and the demorgan's law, so I need to go back on that little section on advanced logic before I start playing some of the games. I am getting pretty well with the use of "or" and "not both" rules too. So would 8 games a day be enough or should I go for more? I think 8 is a good number to start with. If anyone wants to let me know there strategies then please share. I am planning on retaking the june lsat, and games is my worst section. But I heard that its the easiest to improve so even if I get 15 right on every other section, and get about 20 right for games then hopefully I can get a 150 or above. The last time I enrolled for 7sage, I didn't really spend much time studying the material so I ended up with a 140 so I really hope I can get 10 points or more on the test. So please suggest what is a good idea to go forth with games. Thanks.
sweetsana2727
Sunday, Oct 05 2014
Same here, sometimes you feel like that the first one just cant be right so u look at the other ones and then come back to select it.
So I was watching this video
http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/valid-argument-form-3-review/?ss_completed_lesson=948
and at 1:47 JY says that for MBT questions they are hiding the conclusion so you must supply the conclusion. So this made me wonder that are MBT (must be true) questions and MSS (most strongly supported) questions basically the same thing where we are supposed to find what the conclusion is, which is basically tucked in to the answer choices unlike main point questions where you are just supposed to find it in the stimulus and slap a label.
Kind of confused with these two question types. Can someone please explain the differences.
Thanks!
sweetsana2727
Thursday, Oct 02 2014
well the valid argument forms are used on the must be true questions. And the valid argument forms have both existential and universal statements. For example look at this valid argument form:
A some B --> C
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A some --> C
The some parts are the existential statements, and the universal statements are the arrows which basically means "ALL". So that statement is read as: Some A's are B's and all B's are C's. Therefore some A's are C's.
And also All implies most, and most implies some. So remember that as well when picking answer choices.
Okay so i was watching the video where JY tells us how to distinguish between Valid and Invalid argument forms and at the end he gave us a little trick to remember how to distinguish between the two and that was that:
In the valid forms, the existential statements appear first and then the universal statements.
So an example is
A some-> B-> C
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A some ->C
And in the invalid forms the universal statements appear first and then the existential statements.
So an example of this would be:
A --> B some-> C
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A some->C
BUT, the problem is that this doesnt hold true for VALID forms 6-8 as they start with universal statements rather than existential statements. So can someone tell me a trick to remember those three.
Thanks!
sweetsana2727
Friday, Aug 01 2014
ur welcome, hope this helps :)
Well I used the logical reasoning bible from powerscore to study before i incorporated 7sage into my studying (mostly for games) and powerscore did this neat thing where they put all the logical reasoning question types into four family types which i found quite useful.
FAMILY # 1 is the PROVE family where the stimulus is taken to be true but the answer choices are under suspect and you must prove one of them to be correct. So family #1 contains: (6 question types)
1. Must be true questions
• require you to select an answer choice that is proven by the info presented in the stimulus.
Note: The right answer will be a paraphrase of the stimulus and no new extra info in the right answer.
2. Main point questions
•These questions just ask you to identify the main conclusion of the stimulus.
3. Point at Issue
•These questions are the ones where two people are speaking and the question will ask you on either a point that they both disagree on or a point that they both agree on.
4. Method of Reasoning
•The correct answer in this question type is the one that best describes
What method author used to make the argument.
•NO NEW INFO in the correct answer choice in these questions either.
•We focus on form instead of facts in these question types.
5. Flaw in Reasoning
•These questions are also like method of reasoning since they focus on form rather than facts/substance of the stimulus.
•So the correct answer in this question type will point out WHY the argument is flawed.
•Don't get this confused with weakening questions, because weakening questions just attack the support between the premise and conclusion.
•So instead of just making the argument weak, you tell why it is actually weak.
6. and Parallel Reasoning
•The correct answer choice of this question type will parallel the stimulus's
A. Method of Reasoning
B. Validity (either a valid or invalid argument)
C. Conclusion
D. and Premises
The parallel reasoning question types are time consuming b/c you have to sort thru five more stimulus's in the answer choice to pick out the right one.
FAMILY #2 is the HELP family and in this family the stimulus is under suspect while the answer choices are taken to be true. So this family contains: (4 question types)
1. Strengthen questions
•These questions ask you to strengthen the support between the premise and conclusion. So basically if there are any gaps in the argument, just fill those in.
2. Assumption questions
•These question types ask you to identify an assumption that is used to make the conclusion of the argument.
3. Justify the conclusion
•The right answer to these question types will add info to the premise to make the conclusion follow.
•The Justify Formula is this:
premise + correct answer = conclusion
4. Resolve the paradox
•These questions look like they have a contradiction but they actually don't. So with the correct answer you make that appearance of a contradiction go away.
•So the correct answer will allow both sides of the paradox to be factually correct and it will either explain how the situation came into being or add a piece of info that shows how the 2 ideas/occurrences can coexist.
FAMILY #3 is the HURT family and its the same as the 2nd family because the stimulus is under suspect and the answer choices are taken as given. This family contains: (1 question type)
1. Weaken questions
•In this question type you are supposed to weaken the support between the premise and conclusion
FAMILY #4 is the DISPROVE family and its the same as the 1st family where the stimulus is taken as it is but the answer choice is under suspect. This family contains: (1 question type)
1. Cannot be True
•In this question type you are to choose the answer that is most weakened by the info in the argument.