Hmm, try this maybe?

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I am sorry to hear that you are currently having difficulties studying. I hope that your Friday meeting helps bring relief and that you find yourself back on track with everything soon.

Getting stuck at stages of your LSAT progress is common, if comfort may be found in commonalities shared. Often, these zones of stalled activity are necessary steps in the overall growth that occurs. The ecstasy of growth is in self-discovery, of proving your beliefs into being. Only you hold the key to bring it all about and you will turn it when ready.

All the best with everything.

Haha @! Well you gotta start somewhere.

Crito is great and if you start with it, you might want to take a look at a great law professor's analysis of the Crito, law and friendship: https://bit.ly/2MGfZEA

Yes, concur with above. We would need to know more information to help with crafting the right formulation (feel free to PM me if you want my input) but the presentation of work in resumes is all along the same lines.

Oh, great suggestion! Let me search up his dialogues... Do you have a specific translation that you would recommend?

All are ok but I like Plato, Complete Works edited by John Cooper. You may find a pdf version through google.

My experience was that I hardly ever heard it discussed. Usually, people in the same school will be in the same range anyhow and besides there are more important things on which to focus.

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Hello everyone, I’m new to this page and would really need help.

I’m almost done my undergrad and I am really want to study Law. I am currently working my butts off to maintain a strong cgpa however I don’t know where to start in studying for the LSATs. Can anyone guide me as to where to begin?

Thank you.

Welcome! You can start by taking a practice test to see what the test is like - LSAC provides a free test on their website: https://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/jd-docs/sampleptjune.pdf

You've rightly identified that there are at least two elements at play in the socratic method: public speaking and engaging dialogue.

If the former makes you apprehensive, then joining a debating society or just practicing giving speeches is likely the best way to combat the anxiety (which is very natural).

If you also want to get used to the need to "think on your feet" while publicly engaging with a law professor, debating - so long as not all just prepared remarks - or maybe taking an improv class might be beneficial.

And don't forget to read the Socratic dialogues to see the master at work.

I would go for the first option.

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Are there particular passages that you find more troubling? Or specific question types?

Perhaps try switching up your approach a bit. If you notate a lot, try relying more on memory; or the reverse. I found myself notating a lot initially but it was giving me a false sense of understanding. Less notation forced me to absorb and command the material in my mind. It helped to pause after each paragraph and spend a few seconds summarizing the main point of the paragraph. After each paragraph, I would summarize and link the paragraph with the previous ones, creating an overarching structure.

An interesting trick that worked for me was occasionally preparing with material tougher than the LSAT - e.g., like doing more than 4 sections consecutively etc. I wonder if the equivalent for RC might be helpful: e.g., reading all 4 passages first and then tackling questions, forcing your memory to deal with a larger amount of content. Then, when you return to the traditional passage length, things might be breezier.

Hi @ I would assume it's due to rolling admissions, and the consequent advantage would likely depend on scores. Personally, I applied to Ontario law schools very late (mistakenly thinking deadlines were the same as U.S. law schools) but thankfully it all worked it. Please feel free to PM me if I could help with anything.

Hi @ I think I would apply with re-take as a score increase would likely improve application. I applied late to Canadian law schools (under the mistaken thought that the deadlines were the same as U.S.). Feel free to PM me if you would like to discuss this further, or if I could help with anything else related to Canadian law schools.

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@ Thanks! I just PM. Thanks for the offer.

My pleasure! Just replied.

I don't recall the specific point increase @, and anyway I was likely employing other strategies concurrently so the correlation is unclear. But, as I mentioned and as @ stressed, I found them helpful within the category of non-LSAT study for the reasons mentioned: they constituted a break, brought comfort to reading and processing scientific passages, and ensured that my mind was maintaining the level of active, sophisticated engagement that I needed for the LSAT.

The latter did not really feel like expending energy, but rather submerging myself and my mind in the mindset that I wanted to be in to operate sharpest and at my best. For sure, if you feel like this expends substantial energy which you could just as easily invest in an actual LSAT, then go ahead with another timed test or the like.

Are these professors? If so, did you write any papers or other work for them? If so, resend those and they can refresh their memories and possibly reference your work in their recommendation letters. Also, in terms of personal information, if your Personal Statement is not too personal to share, that would be helpful for them to see, especially if they want to write their letters in a way to complement or accentuate how you are presenting yourself to law schools. Lastly, if given the option between communicating via e-mail or in person, choose the latter so they have more of a personal take -- e.g., maybe drop off physical copies of these materials.

Congrats! It must be incredibly rewarding to see the results of your hard work. "The fact is the sweetest dream that labor knows."

I found reading external material helpful. I sensed weaker scores on passages relating to science and such, so I took up reading The Economist and Scientific American on my spare time. In general when I was studying for the LSAT, I tried maintaining a certain rigor even when not studying for the LSAT. I wasn't watching much entertainment, and when I did it was more scientific documentaries. All of this helped because these were relieving breaks from actual LSAT study and yet it maintained the discipline and sophistication while making these areas more familiar and comfortable for me. When studying for the LSAT, you can start feeling pressurized to maximize time doing actual LSAT work, so these are helpful and therefore guiltless reprieves.

Yes, that's a good forum. For what it's worth, I went to law school in Toronto and would be happy to help anyone who has any questions whether re: LSAT or law school. Feel free to PM me directly.

It would certainly be a plus, to what degree is hard to say. I can only speak for my law school: 20 percent of my entering class at U of T had a graduate degree and that was fairly typical. The law school takes a holistic approach, so they might value a graduate degree more than others, but I'd find it hard to imagine any school not factoring it into their decision, especially if the graduate record reflects an improvement and upward trend in achievement.

Are you looking for help with US law or another country? I went to law school in Toronto.

I graduated from law school at U of T. Feel free to PM me if I can help with anything.

OLSAS - I'm finished law school but feel free to PM me if need help with anything.

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@ thank you! I am definitely interested in the consulting. I'm applying for next fall, including a few schools in Canada that have apps due November 1st. Should I be starting this stuff now?

Hi @ It doesn't hurt to start planning now but you've still got time, especially if you need to focus on LSAT prep. You might want to start asking for reference letters so that your recommenders have sufficient time before Nov 1. I applied to US schools through LSAC and in Ontario via OLSAS, and ended up going to law school in Toronto -- though this was all about 4 years ago, I'd be happy to answer any questions to the best of my memory, if you'd like.

Congrats @!

I interviewed with them but not off the waitlist, so I can't speak to that specific context, but I'd be happy to answer any questions re: the interview and other stuff. This was 4 years ago, though, so my experience may not be super up-to-date. Regardless, good luck!

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> > Yes, I'm planning on staying in Canada. I applied both to U.S. and Canadian law schools, but ultimately chose Canada because of that reason.

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> > Wow, you're fortunate to have the advantage of local rates with either option.

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> A little late on the response but - did you happen to apply to UBC? I want to apply to law schools in Cali (I'm tired of east coast lol). Just curious to know if you applied to UBC! It's a great school and I'm just wondering what the value or difference would be going to UBC vs. a UCalifornia school...

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I didn't apply to UBC but I hear it's a great school. Sorry I can't advise much more than that!