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I misbubbled. But hey, I got Q24 on the LG section right (rolls eyes). I'll be retaking in July lol.

lol...wait there were only 23 LG questions, right? I feel like I'm losing it!

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can you elaborate? i'm lacking brain power (or coffee) to figure out & am in the same boat.

So under my Disclosure book it says you took Form #9LSN133. Then I have PDFs for Sec 5: Analytical Reasoning, Sec 3: LR, Sec 2: RC, Sec 4: LR

Then when I open my Item Response Report, it shows columns for Sec 1, Sec 2, Sec 3, and Sec 5.

I just didn't know why it didn't match up. Like wouldn't it show in the IRR Sec 2, 3, 4 & 5? I don't know why it's like that and if that's normal.

Now, I'm just debating about applying with my score (better than before but still my lowest PT) or retaking.

Question--is the disclosure book supposed to match up with the IRR?

Under my disclosure book, it says what form I took and then Sec. 2, 3, 4 & 5 (missing section 1). Then when I go to my IRR, it shows Sec. 1, 2, 3 and 5 (missing section 4). Do I just not have enough coffee in my system to understand this?

Edit: I think I got it. Answer is not enough coffee.

Headed to Notre Dame!

Riding 10+ waitlists hahaha I feel you @

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If I'm honest, lately, I've slacked on exercising because by the time I finish studying I'm so drained I just want to lay in my bed. But I'm trying to push myself tonight to walk around like I used to. I'm limited in my exercises because I fractured my foot back in April but if you don't have any restrictions or maybe you're not an athletic person, taking walks is easy, simple, and works!

Whoah Muay Thai! Thats awesome! Take care of your foot! My hubby does BJJ and gets all kinds of weird injuries.

I don't consider myself an athletic person. Like I played soccer in HS and college but was just reallllyyy good at keeping that bench warm!

There are definite times when I don't want to exercise. I've found that when I force myself and go anyway, I get way more energy afterwards and have a better mood. It helps with studying for sure. I'm all about using my time efficiently. It's better to put in a solid two hours than a mediocre six or whatever.

Yes! Set short-term and long-term goals for yourself. You got this!

I didn't talk about law. I guess it's tangential, though. It was about painting a picture of who I am and crafting a compelling enough narrative. For a couple schools, I wrote maybe one or two sentences at the end about why x fits.

Aww don't apologize! I'm glad you are comfortable discussing your mental health. It is important to destigmatize it. :) so I took my daily meds for anxiety but didn't take my klonopin because it makes me feel like a zombie...or like I drank four glasses of wine. Ultimately, you know your body best and need to do what's right by you. I would suggest daily exercise, though. I go bouldering daily, kayak on the weekends and hike. Something about pushing my body + being outside helps me handle my anxiety. That and an awesome group of friends.

So yeah...take what you need to get through the day, don't take what makes you into a zombie and will really f with your head, exercise and have a good support network. And don't beat yourself up. It's only a test. Hope my tidbit of an experience helps. Best of luck, mate!

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I dreamt that I went to my LSAC page to see if it was grey day yet, but my score was already there! A bold 149. My diagnostic was a 147. My dream self was absolutely heartbroken that all I got was two points after having studied for over a year and maintained a far higher PT average.

DUDE. I HAD THE SAME DREAM. WERE YOU IN MY ASTRAL DREAMSCAPE

Hi Ham!!!! I am SOOOO excited for you. UCI is lucky to have you. Please keep me updated. I'm deposited at Notre Dame after negotiating and re-negotiating my scholarship. I had no idea that was a thing you could do, but I felt like a badass negotiator. Still riding out a couple of waitlists, so who knows? I'm also deferring a year, so I will be cheering you on from the sidelines!

Best of luck! Keep in touch! Have a great summer! (I feel like I just signed your 8th grade yearbook, and I'm here for it.)

A lot of joint programs I've seen require the LSAT or the GRE. You still have to apply to each program separately, but it seems as if admissions will accept the LSAT in lieu of the GRE if you are applying for a dual program.

I thanked my professors right away. I heard writing a reference through LSAC is kind of a b*tch (you have to make an account with them). I sent them a note and something special that is unique to them. For example, one of my professors has two border collies, so I sent him a nice note and a border collie watercolor.

I think a nice gesture would go a long way. :smile:

Agree with above. Relationships carry waaaayyy more weight. I would go with the first referee who can speak to your academic abilities and the second who can speak to your professional working style. It seems like all three wrote you good letters, so I think you'll be in a nice position either way. Best of luck!

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I'm inspired by the defense attorneys (public defenders included) throughout America whose names we all might not know but who are standing between the state and the individual. I've been watching "The Staircase" and leaving aside thoughts on Mr. Peterson's guilt or innocence, the actions of the state in that case are nothing short of astonishing. Shout-out to all the defense attorneys that take on the state each and every day in America, you inspire me.

YES. The staircase has been fascinating to watch. It inspires me to become a defense attorney. One of the things that I really liked was when his lawyer said it isn't innocent or guilty; it's guilty or not guilty. I am motivated to ensure a person has a fair trial, regardless of guilt.

If you like The Staircase, you should watch The Confession Tapes. It's also on Netflix and it's about people who are coerced into giving false confessions, which unfortunately often lead to convictions. It lights a fire under my butt to defend kids and be that layer between "the system" and the individual.

Ahhh the feels for this post! So I thrive in high-pressure work or school situations but standardized tests are a different story. My mind actually goes blank. Like almost blacks out. My hands shake to the point where I can't even write on a page. It sucks. And I'm sure you know that it sucks knowing how capable you are and then having this crashing feeling of anxiety rush over you. People telling me to just relax or to not put as much pressure on myself made things worse because I can't just turn off a switch.

I found that taking my anxiety meds helped, but I took only a quarter and practiced on various degrees of pill-ness. It's a careful balance of not being a zombie while still being able to keep your mind sharp.

Besides that having a procedure for each section helped so that when my mind does blank out, I can fall back on mechanics.

I'm sorry you are going through this. Anxiety is rough. Please don't let this test define you :) kick butt in everything else and let those acceptances rolllllll in!

I actually had to suppress a laugh when the bonobos monkey question came up

Let's do it! One last retake for that scholly!

Lol I got an email from Harvard today, and I was just like giiirrrlll stop teasing. We both know how this will turn out.

Went from -12 or -14 (yiiikes) to -0 to -3. I think the biggest jump I got was because I took LG sections, which helped with my timing. I'm also not afraid of unusual games and feel way more confident going into a LG section on a practice test. I was hesitant about the process initially, but it definitely works. I still have room to improve, but I believe Pacifico's method was a life changer!

No idea why this question never seems to sit right with me!

My attempt at a parallel argument:

The fancy gold-flaked pie at the fair grosses two or three times the cost in making and advertising it. Yet, most of our fair booth's money comes from selling cheap muffins.

We just sell more muffins. Bam.

I am soooo SOOO happy for you! Congrats, my friend! You absolutely deserve this and all the best in the future. And when you decide to re-run for public office, I'm already signed-up to knock door-to-door. Can't wait to hear about where you go next. :)

Just echoing the great advice already mentioned. Worst case scenario is that you don't get the score you want and decide to retake. Then you may be looking at a gap year and a full-time job. I don't blame your employer for wanting you to be 100% mentally present at work; I think when you graduate and have to work a full-time job (plus maybe a second like I do to tuck away tuition money), this will definitely be the norm. It really just gets harder finding that balance from here. Not that it's impossible. Many of us have children, work full-time jobs and find a way to carve out time to study.

I think you are in a good position to take the time you need and boost your score to get scholarship money. In the long-run, being debt free is more important. If you need to take time off of work to do so, then do what you need to do.

@ Someday after we pay off student loans, the puppies can eat the fancy kibble...

Interesting. What are your motivations for studying Mandarin and could this be accomplished after the March LSAT? I say this because LSAT prepping is time-consuming and exhausting, especially after working a full day. Language learning is also time-consuming and exhausting. When I was studying Russian and Farsi, my studies were a full-time job. My brain physically ached afterwards. I can't imagine doing both LSAT prep and language study especially before the March exam! Your brain needs time to recover and to digest what you are learning.

I sincerely wish you luck and would suggest to focus on March LSAT and enroll in a Mandarin course afterwards. Middlebury has great summer institutes! Of course, this is just my opinion and experience, so take it with a grain of salt.

Hi @ ! Yes...yes he does. It looks like we will have several years of student poverty. Yay!

I can hear JY talking about main point questions in the other room. Oh my. The memories!

Ah Ham! We are on the same wavelength. Text me if you want to chat about it. I am strongly considering Canadian law schools because of the lower tuition and better public schools for the babies. This has been so helpful! I read that only a couple of states (maybe NY and MA?) allow a person with a Canadian law degree to practice right after passing the bar. Others require you to work a few years before sitting the bar and practicing in the states. I know one law school in Canada offers a dual degree, so you can walk out with a JD.