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Tuesday, Jan 31 2017

So far I have done two interviews - Cornell and Georgetown

Since I am currently located outside the US, I completed both of these interviews via Skype.

Georgetown alumni interview was quite extensive - over 40 minutes on the laptop. Yet the interviewer was super-friendly and was more than willing to give advice on law school admissions, careers after law school and life as a lawyer.

Cornell interview was done via Kira Talent application, which is an online interview platform. I had chances to practice the interviews several times before the actual recording.

For interview questions, Georgetown interview questions were generally straightforward - no curveball questions whatsoever. Cornell interview had 3-4 writing questions on current issues and personal questions (at the end of the interview, the interviewer stated something about non-disclosure). I believe that one would be able to prepare for the interviews as long as he/she gets familiarized with interview questions disclosed on the google websearch and online-forums.

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Sunday, Mar 29 2015

@ Thanks for the tips! I will try and see if it works:)

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Friday, Mar 27 2015

@ Thanks million times! I will make sure that I watch after completing my BR on PT71!

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Friday, Mar 27 2015

And thanks for the meme:)

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Friday, Mar 27 2015

Wow these comments are really helpful! Thanks for the advice I really appreciate it!

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Thursday, Mar 26 2015

williamjkwon642

Logic Games Diagramming

As I am currently practicing previous game sets from PT 1-38, i was wondering how I should set up general spacing strategy for basic diagramming.

From what i understand (what my friends told me) it is said that one game is provided within 2 pages on the actual LSAT test, with general rules with 1~2 question on the first page and the other questions on the next page. So i was wondering...

1. Does everyone generally set up global diagram on the first page and draw out the rest of local diagrams on the next page as the questions come up? I was wondering if this strategy will be effective for the actual LSAT. (most of problems sets i have printed out are printed on one single page individually, which make me confused because they are not printed in the way they should be printed on the actual test).

2. As I was following up video explanations on 7sage, i found out Laoshi Ping's method of coming up with few templates and applying each rule on every local question. But i believe such tactics will be very difficult for local questions on the actual lsat because we will have to copy and re-draw every diagram and rule for each question. Should I keep practicing on drawing local diagrams 'faster'? or Do you process local diagrams and rules in your head while solving those local or additional problems?

Thanks in advance! As an international student studying for the LSAT I must say that resources and assistance from 7sage have been by far the most helpful!

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Wednesday, Jul 26 2017

williamjkwon642

Opinions on retaking

Hi, i received 170 on the 3rd LSAT last October. As of April i have requested for a deferral for 1 year.

Recently i heard the news that LSAC removed the restriction to take tests for 3 times in a 2year time-frame.

I am planning on working as a paralegal and retaking the LSAT for re-negotiating my scholarship option.

I have two questions and i will greatly appreciate assistance if anyone can give me 2cents.

Is it likely that i may receive higher amount of scholarship from the school i have requested for deferral, assuming that I score higher?

Anyone with an idea of strategy from 170 to 172+? my track record has been 164->170.

For the purpose of ruminating on my mistakes after reviewing few recent (post 65) PTs before February LSAT this Sunday,

I would like to share my thoughts on some noticeable tendencies in newer reading comprehension questions.

(For the record, I was usually scoring -3~-5 on reading comprehension sections during 40s~lower 60s PT,

and dear God I am scoring -7~-11 in newer PTs.)

1. There is more wiggle room for choices of words in answer choices.

Particularly among those newer suggestion/inference questions,

i found that answer choices that might have been easily regarded as wrong or overstretching inferences

getting to become an answer choice after the process of elimination.

In addition, some answer choices in non-inference questions are sometimes themselves written in a twisted way,

forcing me to take another step to see them as valid answer choices.

2. For reference questions that ask the purpose or meaning of certain parts in a paragraph,

answer choices are starting to make INTRA-passage inferences.

Previously on eariler LSATs, i guess it was safe or generally correct to focus your choices of answer on a specific paragraph for reference questions. However on recent questions there have been few instances where the answer choices were inferences made outside a specific paragraph but made within specific passage, connecting ideas from other paragraphs in a passage.

As a non-native English speaker i have felt that these changes in a more pronounced way, but I have to admit that I may have been wrong since I do not have a firm grasp on every nuance of the language. And some recent passages like Dodo extinction and mirror reflection have been brutal on me regardless of shifts in questions.

Any feedback is welcomed!

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Sunday, Oct 23 2016

@ Thank you so much for the precious piece of advice. You help me be in the proper mindset for the application. I will make the best application possible. Thank you!

Hi, I am a senior student applying for this cycle.

I am currently a dual citizen of US and South Korea. I will be graduating from a college in South Korea.

I believe my overall stat will be

superior(yet to be determined by LSAC)/170(September2016).

I know general wisdom for international applicants (students with non-US/Canadian GPA) is to apply in accordance with median LSAT scores and to expect good chances only when the LSAT score is above the median.

Here are my questions

1. Despite my citizenship, will my application be reviewed in the international applicant pool?

2. If so, should I apply and expect chances of receiving admission from schools with the median LSAT score that is the same or below 170? I hope that I have a shot at CCN...

Thanks in advance!

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Monday, Nov 21 2016

@ @.rizeq @ Thank you very much for the kind reply. Those comments are really of great help. I will make sure I submit my best application as soon as possible. Thank you!

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Sunday, Nov 20 2016

williamjkwon642

Application submission- before thanksgiving?

So I heard the rumor that applications are divided into batches submitted before thanksgiving and after.

Is it true?

I got my October score and was wondering if I should speed up the entire process to enhance my chances or wait a little more...

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Wednesday, Jan 20 2016

williamjkwon642

On 70s PT Reading Comprehension sections

Hi, as I was prepping for February LSAT in Asia, I am seeing subtle twists and turns in the trend of reading comprehension passages and questions in recent 70s PTs (and small drops in points as well).

These are some points that I felt were obvious in recent RC sections

1. Passages are exhibiting some non-traditional structures that are hard to be classified into

Argument A v. Argument B structure.

(Yeah I know not all of RC passages fit into this 'scale', but I believe such structural predictability was more obvious in older PTs)

2. Questions are getting more abstract and question stems are getting shorter.

For example, instead of a questions stem that reads 'what can be inferred from LINEXYZ or Author's opinion from ABC', i am now seeing question stems like 'what can be inferred from the passage' or 'The author suggests which of the following?')

I have seen a lot of posts on difficulty changes in recent PTs,

but I have not seen many on differentiating or modifying the game plan on attacking those changes.

Anyone with idea on changes in recent RC? Or even idea with other sections i will be glad to discuss!

(Ah! For those who want to suggest that the difficulty feels only personal and that LSAT is the same exam as it was 20 years ago, let me politely decline your comments because TO ME there are subtle yet obvious tweaks that are present only in recent PTs. Thanks in advance:) )

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williamjkwon642
Wednesday, Sep 16 2015

@.hopkins

Thanks for the detailed tips and analysis. Really appreciate them.

Maybe you're right in that I display the symptom of burnout. In fact, I took a brief break (3~4days) from LSAT during the middle of August. However since I plan to take October LSAT and not to miss this cycle, I decided to push forward while taking 1~ 2 PT a week and reviewing PTs and previous cambridge packets.

Unfortunately as you pointed out my drop was even more dramatic after 65s PTs.

I got

LR LR LG RC

PT 66 ( -7, -6, -1, -7) 163

PT 70 ( -2, -2, -1, -13) 161 (I am still analyzing what happened with my RC)

and noticed that recent ones are much different.

It would be best for me if i had chances to analyze all of recent PTs after 65s but I want to keep them aside for fresh real-time prep tests.

So I am currently BRing with all the relatively recent PTs(post 50s)

but is there any tips or specific mindset or anything that would be helpful for adjusting to more recent PTs? I know there is no special way except careful review but as a potential test taker with less exposure to 70s PTs i would be more than glad to hear that

Thank you so much

LR LR LG RC Score Date

54 1 2 1 5 171 24th July

55 2 2 3 6 167 11th Aug

56 4 7 2 8 163 12th Aug

58 168 24th Aug

59 4 3 5 6 167 26th Aug

60 168 28th Aug

61 3 6 7 1 166 31st Aug

62 6 5 4 6 165 1st Sep

I am having a difficulty in adapting my study strategy to more recent PTs!

As you can see I think i am experiencing a drop in scores in recent prep tests.

(During PTs before 40s I was occasionally scoring 170+)

As a non-native speaker in English, I used to employ strategies in attacking LR questions by looking for answer choices through symbolic understanding of stimuli (for example, looking for specific keywords in conclusion and matching them in answer choices),

and i find it that i have to maintain more room for flexibility in attacking these questions.

Anyhow,

1.

is there anyone who has been stuck for 165~168 band for long time and finally broke above 170+?

I guess i am stuck in this score band over 2 months.

2. in consideration of the fact that i am running out of fresh PTs, would you recommend me to take older or used PTs instead if i want to score 170+ in longer term?

Thanks in advance!

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Saturday, Mar 14 2015

williamjkwon642

On reviewing LR questions

Currently I am drilling LR questions and games questions after classifying them into categories and questions types.

For the purpose of perfecting my logic, i review my LR questions with my blind review method, yet from time to time during the process of reviewing i am not exactly sure if i am memorizing the content of questions or getting to get familarized with logic present in those questions. In other words while i am jotting down the analysis of stimulus and the reasons why other answer choices are wrong, I keep thinking if this review is dissecting the logic or dissecting the specific content of stimulus which seem like basically the same thing during the review process.

Have you ever got the feeling of just memorizing questions when you do the review?

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williamjkwon642
Sunday, Apr 05 2015

I weigh 155 pounds and have to say that I am a big fan of crossfit, oly, and swimming. I am currently working for the amatuer lifting competition this fall while at the same time preparing for the lsat for this cycle.

With my goal of lifting heavier weights I have to say that it is not easy maintaining workloads between workout and LSAT prep. The amount of mental stamina is so limited and it feels like everyday is a new challenge for discovering the balance between those two things.

I used to do some high-intensity interval training(yeah, Crossfit at a local box which feels like my home away from home) 4-5 times a week but with the onset of LSAT preparation i try to avoid total annihilation that would affect my mental stamina. So i combined 2~3 sessions of strength training which do not render me into the stage of total burnout, making me better prepared for LSAT drill the next day. And I guess shifting your focus to skill-based training (such as gymnastics) is an excellent way to keep the balance between LSAT and workout while not letting go of precious gains.

All the best!

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williamjkwon642
Friday, Nov 04 2016

RC down LG slight upward trend LR almost the same

But then since I was brutally demolished by recent reading passages I scored low 160s on 70s prep tests. Keep practicing! you will get used to the overall tendency of recent exams.

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williamjkwon642
Saturday, Apr 04 2015

@ Wow. Thank you so much. Sticking to the definition of premise and conclusion clarifies pretty much everything on what I was confused about. (Though i may have to throw few more additional questions in the framework of observation-explanation). Billion thanks!!!

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williamjkwon642
Saturday, Apr 04 2015

@ Thanks for the detailed commment! I hope i am not getting too obstinate but here is how i see it. I would be more than glad if you could correct my train of thought on possible misleading points.

1) You have to ask yourself, what does the author want you to believe?

I believe the author wants to assert that his explanation (animal energy requirement in relation to bodyweight and surface area) IS THE VERY REASON that a certain phenomenon like described in the second sentence takes place.

From the viewpoint of reorganizing phenomenon, it is logical to say that his explanation supports (or constitutes the origin of ) the phenomenon that appeared in the second sentence, as you said. Yet from the perspective of the author, the explanation will be the very point he would like to make in formulating the whole argument.

Here is my example.

Phenomenon : An apple fell from the tree.

Posited explanation from scientist A : The gravitational pull created by the white walkers make apples fall from trees.

If we presuppose the validity of both phenomenon and posited explanation, we must say his suggested explanation SUPPORTS the phenomenon. But it does not mean that the phenomenon is the point that he would like to make. The author wants to argue that his explanation is the very reason behind the phenomenon, making his explanation the conclusion of his argument.

It seems that i am clinging to the structure of

Observation (Premise) --> Explanation (Conclusion)

structure from (https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/forums/q23-defendants-who-can-afford-t2020.html)

Again, thank you for your assistance and everything in the forum!

(hope i am not bothering too much..)

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williamjkwon642
Friday, Apr 03 2015

This is great! Thank you for thoughtful pieces of advice.

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Friday, Apr 03 2015

@.hopkins Thanks for the comment!

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Thursday, Mar 03 2016

Congratulations!

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Friday, Apr 03 2015

Help needed!

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Friday, Apr 03 2015

@ in the first place i thought in the same way as you analyzed premise and conclusion. What confused me though was when I recalled questions like

PrepTest 7 - February 1993 LSAT Answers & Explanations - LR » Section #1, (https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/forums/q23-defendants-who-can-afford-t2020.html)

It has exactly the same stimulus structure with this question yet those in the forum explained that if there are certain

1) Observed Phenomenon

and

2) Explanation

2) Explanation has to be deemed as conclusion from the viewpoint of those formulating arguments because 2) Explanation is elicited from the 1) Observed Phenomenon.

In the same respect, I thought it would be better to see the explanation in the stimulus (Weight proportional to energy output and surface area to energy output) as conclusion, but this time the manhattan forum explained it in the opposite way!!!

(https://www.manhattanprep.com/lsat/forums/q21-the-energy-an-animal-t5496.html?sid=d62761d419f9fecb002b7c33f0af9aaa)

It seems to me that reversing the premise-conclusion sequence in this question will not necessarily change the gap between them, which means it may not affect problem-solving process much, but i wanted to double-check on the stimulus-structure.

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williamjkwon642
Wednesday, Aug 02 2017

@sorry for a bit late reply. but million thanks:)

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Thursday, Apr 02 2015

williamjkwon642

PT1.S3.Q21 - the energy an animal

I have a question in terms of dissecting the conclusion-premise structure of the stimulus.

So here is my question in relation to identifying/dissecting the premise-conclusion of this stimulus.

To me it seems that the author is providing his/her own explanation of weight and surface area in explaining the observation of squirrels and larger animals.

In that sense it seems much more logical to regard the entire observation of squirrels and large animals as the premise part and to consider the author's explanation as conclusion. I think it is much more natural to see the whole argument originating from one observation and reaching a particular conclusion that the author deems logical/plausible explanation.

Therefore I believe that it is better to put the stimulus as

Premise : Small animals run up a tree trunk fast while large animals slow down upon running uphill.

-->

Conclusion : Weight proportional to energy output and surface area to energy output

I would be more than glad if you could clarify on this.

Thanks in advance and excuse me for English not being my first language.

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Monday, May 01 2017

williamjkwon642

Thank you 7Sage!

I believe I have almost completed my cycle for this year. And I am glad that I have secured a school that will give me a very good opportunity to start my career as a transaction lawyer.

I was able to boost my lsat score from 149 (cold diagnostic : PT no. 69) to 170+ (2016 official score).

Unlike some crappy online forums, 7sage discussion forum has been precious resource for me.

I firmly believe that this test is learnable, even for those who are not perfect with the language. (For the record, English is my second language and I started learning English at the age of 10). I guess the hardest part is not letting go of such belief.

These are the resources I found especially helpful

  • LSAT Trainer
  • 7sage games explanation + forum Q&A
  • Manhattan forum Q&A
  • INTENSE preparation and drilling ( I went over the whole PTs about 2.5~3 times, all in 5 timed sections)
  • There are some talented people who are able to finish preparation within short span of time. I was blessed to have them as my friends.

    Yet I have to say I was not one of them and it took me more than a year to reach the point I wanted.

    For those who are on the struggle bus, say June LSAT or whatever,

    I know how much it sucks (I am a 3rd time LSAT taker) and I hope that you hold onto the belief that you are going to get through it.

    And if there is any question let me know! Thank you!

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    williamjkwon642
    Tuesday, Mar 01 2016

    @

    I had one RC section and it was about volcanic ashes, marriage/coverture laws.

    Could you tell me if your logic game section was something about full/routine classification?

    I had two logic games and do not have a idea of what was the real one.

    Confirm action

    Are you sure?