Hi, I'm currently a 167-169ish scorer. My goal is T14, preferably East Coast schools with dreams of Penn/Columbia. Just hypothetically speaking, if I were to get a 167-169 in Nov and a 172 in January, what would you say is the better time to apply? Im thinking I could get that three point increase by January if I tried hard enough! I graduated from an international institute with a "Superior" (GPA of 3.78/4.3)
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@ Yikes. You could try again tomorrow when the slots officially open (rescheduling is free)
@ I'm guessing you'll need to wait till tomorrow's official time then. If it doesn't even then, contact LSAC asap!
And for those who have never done this before, this is the email I got when I first signed up for August Flex.
"The online reservation tool for the August LSAT-Flex is now open through ProctorU. This email explains how to set up your ProctorU account and schedule the date and time for your LSAT-Flex exam.
Step 1: Set up your ProctorU account. Go to https://go.ProctorU.com/session/new and set up your account, using these temporary credentials:
User name: (Your lsac email)
Password: (A random temporary password, but since you won't know this until they send it to you, you would have click on forgot password on proctoru to set up one)
@ Is your proctoru account from LSAC or is it a different account from a different institution?
@ HM, that's weird! I just went in to double check and there's slots open for 650, 700, every ten minutes all the way to 840 AM PST. Is your account settings set to US/Pacific?
if you haven't ever signed up before, go to proctoru, put in the email for your lsac account and request forgot password!
and in terms of why the 12th wasn't available, i think it's only available for PST. My account was set for PST because that's where I took the October LSAT, but after I switched to EST, where I am now, the 12th option went away.
The only times available for the 12th is 7AM PST ish so I'm guessing that's why it's not available for those who are in EST or even Central.
you can do it via phone.
I know LSAC says the scheduling opens tomorrow but it's actual available now. (I just scheduled mine)
I took the August and October LSAT and I scheduled a day earlier than the day/time LSAC told us to for both tests and it was perfectly fine.
Usually about 2 weeks before the test, they let you schedule through proctoru!
Wow, that's be great! If you need to pick and choose, and find it hard to, you could hold public sessions like some people have been doing ! Thanks for the help:)
Hey I know this is kind of late in the game - but they process lsat waivers fairly quickly if you're conditionally approved right away. If not, I'm not too sure.
I got my decision in a day after sending all my documents in through email! I don't really recommend faxing it.
Everything stated here is probably the truth and nothing but the truth. It's something that I can also testify to. Its comforting to see someone say it and believe it to remind me of that. Thanks for this!
That last part though.. the myth.. the later PTs being harder, I'm trying overcome it but I just can't seem to get that misconception out of my head. Did you struggle with LR post 70s? Or were you consistent throughout? If you did suffer, do you know what you did to get out of that zone? I'm taking the test next week and it's something that has placed me in sort of a slump.
@ So after a loooong wait on the phone, (I do have a writing sample on file btw!), turns out - and this was complete news to me - if you have a fee waiver application that's conditionally approved ('m waiting for tax documents to send), they'll put your whole profile on hold. Hope this helps for anyone (if any) are going through the same problem.
Hi, so I just logged on, finally go to the my score page, but there's no score?! Does anyone know what's happening..? I'm so confused. I didn't receive any emails about them cancelling or withholding my scores.
oh lordy. I know exactly how you feel. I was scoring constantly 170s up till pt 69 then, at 70-74 they were in the low 160s. For me it was a combination of things: burnt out, redirecting focus on LR, small mistakes... The score came back right up at PT75 but my suggestions is take a break, and maybe change your focus on the PTs. If LR seems to the reason for the low scores, for me, I started implementing a new method where I would solve the first 10 in 10 minutes, then go straight to Q18-25 then back - and my LR score went right back up. I'm guessing it's a weird wording change in the PTs but, I guarantee you, your skillsets haven't disappeared and all it needs is a little tweaking to make up for the slight changes in the PTs. !
@ Hi! I'm kind of in a similar state as you (averaging -3 on LG). Did you follow the method using the first 35 PTs (core) as well? Or did you go about it with a different set?
Maybe try a different approach for the questions? It's easy to look at the questions by trying to understand what it's saying, but maybe start by analyzing the structure. (is it comparing? attacking a study? Conditional reasoning?) And find certain types you can answer quickly to leave some leeway to spend more time on the questions you're missing!
I'm pretty sure most schools require that you submit all GRE scores, regardless?
@ No GRE"s are actually required so you won't need to retake! And since your scores are older than 5 years, you won't need to submit them either.
@ More than a requirement of both, if you tested GRE in the last 5 years, you have to submit those scores even if you have a LSAT score! (This isn't for all the schools but some of the T14s require it; the ones that i can think of right now is Penn and Harvard).
Hi,
So I took the GRE back in 2017 and got a very average score.
However, I'm currently in the low-mid 170s for the LSAT (90-95 percentile).
A lot of schools require that I send both scores in.. would my 'average' GRE score hurt my chances of getting in to a T14 school?
I'm debating if I should spend some time to raise my GRE score to match my LSAT percentile before sending my apps in.
Any help would be appreciated!
Yes and no. While being an international applicant definitely brings 'diversity' to the table, if you graduated from an undergraduate degree outside the U.S., admissions officers will most likely need a validation of your ability to thrive in a U.S. institution (and the English language based legal field). Technically you don't have a GPA, or any standard to judge your ability to do well in an all English institution with students in the United States. As such, they will base admissions largely based on your LSAT scores; that said, the higher, the better.
If it's the case that they need this validation, it wouldn't really make sense to give a URM boost to an individual that is a minority but completed their high school/college degree outside the U.S.
So my personal opinions is that most schools would take your international status to be enough to write a diversity statement but not enough to consider it a URM.
https://www.top-law-schools.com/urm-applicant-faq.html
@ Hey! keep the momentum going! I was in the same boat but it only literally two weeks of full studying to bring it up to high 160s/low 170s. I recommend you start targeting different sections or question types. I spent a whole weekend day on just NA/SA/PSA, and another whole weekend day on just Flaw/Weakens questions and my LR score went from an average -8 to -4 as these constituted 90% of my errors on LR.
I also did a whole day on just science passages (untimed & timed) to figure out the 'feel' of the passages and best way to approach them and it definitely helped. (note science was my weakest passage)
I actually like the game section so I just do one full game section everyday to keep the momentum up for LG.
I'm not sure if this will help but before every PT, I take out a 'shortcut' note of errors I made or small 'epiphanies' I wrote during Blind Review to keep in mind while taking the PTs and i feel like it brings me back to the 'testing' momentum after a day of other work.
Good luck!
Is this statement ever a possible answer? OR is this answer a self-contradictory statement.
"A factor that need not be present in order for a certain effect to arise may nonetheless be sufficient to produce that effect. "
Is this just saying it doesn't have to be sufficient but may nonetheless be sufficient...?
I'm just confused to this answer choice, what does this even mean?
82 in a 4.3 GPA converted scale is equivalent to 2.99 to 3.08.
82 in a 4.0 GPA converted scale is equivalent to 2.81 to 2.89.
That would give you a rating of give or take be on the borderline of Above Average and Average rating.
https://classic.7sage.com/everything-international-applicants-should-know-when-applying-to-american-law-school/