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Saturday, Aug 31 2013

Hey JY, thanks for your input.

When I was reviewing this question by myself without looking at the explanation, I actually paraphrased the conclusion exactly the same as yours: large cars are safer than smaller cars. Your explanation of jumping from "severity of injury" to "safety in general" makes a lot more sense. I guess the explanation confused me more because of the idea of ABSOLUTE numbers that did not seem to match stimulus.

So would you say that the flaw is not about % -> #, but rather an "incomplete" premise?

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Sunday, Sep 29 2013

Hey there,

With 1 week left, realistically speaking, there is not much time left for you to "learn" new things. I think it is actually wiser for you to spend the remaining time on other important prep for the LSAT: maintaining a good physical and mental condition so that you are at peak condition on the actual test day. Eat well, practice sleeping early and waking up early, go visit the location of your test and plan out the route, create a mental image of what you will do on the morning of the exam and so on.

Cramming excessively during the remaining days can cause a burnout, which is actually counterproductive to your ultimate goal: well, to do your best on the actual thing. Look at professional athletes during their final days of prep. Do they kill themselves over a couple of hundred meters till the very last day of prep? No. They gradually lower the intensity of their training and focus more on recovery and maintenance of their condition. It's pretty similar with LSAT :)

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Thursday, Aug 29 2013

young_gun87854

PT59.S3.Q13 - study of automobile accidents

Hey guys, first of all here is the link to this question.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-3-question-13/

I seem to be having a lot of problem with questions that require mathematical understanding.

I got this question right through POE, but having a real hard time trying to understand why the correct answer is correct.

So the premise is about the relative difference in the percentage of INJURY between accidents involving large and small cars within the sample of 10,000 accidents (large cars = lower, small cars higher percentage).

And the conclusion is about the general likelihood of being INJURED in large vs. small car accidents (large cars safer).

So far so good, but.. where the hell is the FLAW?

Jon explains the shift in scope by saying that the conclusion is about ABSOLUTE numbers, and it would make sense if it is indeed about absolute numbers (remember, percentage -> absolute number is flawed).

BUT, the conclusion explicitly states "one is less LIKELY," which does not seem to indicate absolute numbers.

Please help!!

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Friday, Sep 27 2013

your welcome :)

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Friday, Sep 27 2013

I agree with your categorization of weakening questions. Here is my big picture approach to each category.

(1) Causation: almost always flawed due to correlation -> causation (A corr B, therefore A cause B). So in order to weaken..

1. A exists, B doesn't (and vice versa)

2. B cause A (flip)

3. C cause A or B (3rd cause)

4. A corr B is actually spurious (this type of answer choice is very rare though).

(2) Assumption: usually involves a shift in scope like SA or NA questions (idea X -> idea Y). These types rely more on your intuition and answer choices will almost always address the jump.

(3) Phenomenon-Hypothesis (an observation is explained by a single hypothesis). So in order to weaken..

1. Alternative hypothesis that explains away the observation. An important thing to note is that the alternative hypothesis must explain the phenomenon FULLY, not partially. Treat these like RRE answer choices.

2. Show that the proposed hypothesis is incomplete. Something in the line of "ok, but what about this observation?"

And as a rule of thumb, always watch out for trap answer choices that SEEM to attack the premise but are actually not really doing so. These answer choices usually contain quantifiers (some and most), and words that indicate the degree of something that can go EITHER way.

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young_gun87854
Tuesday, Sep 24 2013

I think we are on the same line. "Hasn't accounted for" is precisely why it is irrelevant to this particular question. Think about what A is saying again. It is not "agreeing" with the stimulus' conclusion. It is saying that "let's suppose it is true, then blah blah." But we are not even sure whether the conclusion is true or false. The author is trying to convince us that it is true, so what good is there if you suddenly create a hypothetical situation out of something that needs to be proven in the first place?

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Tuesday, Sep 24 2013

@ Great! Yea, "retaking" old PTs helps you to recover confidence. I usually get 180 when I retake one and it makes me feel like the king of the world.

I don't really know what is the best way to review wrong answers once you reach a certain level of understanding. After all, comprehension is not enough to do well on the LSAT. Personally, I realized that it really boils down to how well you do under time pressure, so I changed my reviewing style to focusing more on recognizing "clues" and avoiding trap answer choices, which of course, do require you to know why the wrong answers are wrong.

But this is quite different from thinking over and over why the logic of the answer choice is wrong. When you have 35 minutes to do 25~26 questions, you simply do not have time to fully comprehend. So I try to review strategically by "getting the sense" of typical wrong answer choices for each question type.

For example, I realized that for the newer LSAT, answer choices are usually wrong because of specific words. "Most" is one of the most common wrong answer indicators, and if the question stem is MBT or MSS, "most" should be raising red flags all over the place unless it is explicitly stated in the stimulus.

Yea.. so this is generally how I approach my review these days. What about you guys?

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Monday, Sep 23 2013

@ Haha I just took 3 days off and I feel so much better. I did some games to get rid of my guilt for good during those days, but none of the heavy lifting. You should definitely recover from burnout prior to the test day. We only have 2 weeks left!

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Sunday, Sep 22 2013

Hey there,

Since you understand why E is the correct answer, I will just give you a reason why A is wrong. "Crying must have the effect of reducing emotional stress" is the conclusion that the argument is to reach. So considering what happens if this is tends to be true is irrelevant to the argument.

Think about it in conditional logic.

A -> B.

B -> ???

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young_gun87854
Sunday, Sep 22 2013

For MP questions, it's almost always a paraphrased version of the conclusion explicitly stated.

No more, no less.

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Sunday, Sep 22 2013

haha @, that's a weakening answer choice right there.. and yea, I can't believe I am actually thinking about it in LSAT terms.

Anyway for James, I think it certainly is a burnout. 170ish to 160? That is just insane.

I guess we all have to be very careful about this phenom, especially during the couple of weeks following up to the test day.

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Saturday, Sep 21 2013

How do you guys recover from burnout?

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Friday, Sep 20 2013

young_gun87854

The realness of BURNOUT

Hey guys, I just wanted to share my thoughts and also receive feedback on the issue of LSAT burnout.

I am currently preparing for the October exam taking place in about 2 weeks time.. and after cranking up my studies for the past 2 weeks (10 hrs per day), I hit a brick wall of mental fatigue that I have never experienced before. I have heard of this mental phenomenon before, but did not believe in it until I actually experienced it for myself. I took a PT yesterday (it was the Lunar Moon festival season in Korea) and wow, I was blanking out on most RC passages, had no idea what was going on with the last 2 games even with 25 minutes remaining, and for 1 LR section I ran out of time with FIVE questions TOTALLY UNTOUCHED!!! Timing was always my weakness in LR, but I did improve a lot after a chat with JY.. so seeing myself a-bomb it so badly was a real shocker to me.

After a dismal performance, I just sat down and interrogated myself. Are you studying hard enough? Hmm... well for the past 5 months all I did was eat sleep LSAT. Are you not understanding your material? Well.. I do well on BR.. Are you just dumb? .. I hope not.. well I did get a 3.8 at a good uni..

After a brutal session of beating myself up, I wandered around soullessly online and read an article that James of our forum put up: http://lsatblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/signs-lsat-burnout-avoid-recover.html

And yea, it seems to indicate that I am burnt out and I am really beginning to appreciate the complexity of LSAT. This exam tests you on much more than your ability to reason. Since this is not a knowledge-based test, crunching does't actually work very well as it may lead to mental fatigue. Even though you understand the fundamentals of RC, LR and LG, it is of no use if your mind is wandering off to the distant galaxies and Sirius 67293 when it should be on planet Earth and more importantly, on the god damn paper itself.

The whole point of this exam is to apply your skills effectively and efficiently, which absolutely requires a clear and rested mind. And from my experience, burnout is pretty real and it WILL prevent you from performing well on the test day. After all, what it really boils down to is those split seconds on the test day that your brain makes decisions. You really don't have the luxury of understanding everything and making sure that your answers are correct. So make sure to keep your brain happy and rested so that it does make the right decisions on the actual test day!!

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Friday, Sep 20 2013

Hey lawschooldreams,

First of all, I do understand your frustration. SA type questions have become progressively more difficult and opaque, especially their answer choices.

But remember that the fundamentals are the same. Your job is to link up the premise to conclusion with another piece of information that makes the conclusion more valid. In this case, its not 100% SA question so you do have some room to spare in its validity.

So let's go through the stimulus again, and I apologize in advance for the term "destroying the link" that I used before. Maybe this is why you were confused with the explanation. After looking at the question again, it actually doesn't "destroy" the link, but it gives less support than B does. And here is why.

Again, the premise you are given are two pieces of info about recording sales: 1. good sales indicate that the band is not authentic; 2. poor sales indicate incompetence. From this evidence, the critic concludes that therefore recording sales is NOT an indicator of success.

To visualize this stimulus, imagine a dialogue between two people, one of them being the music critic. What is a good indie band these days.. ah, let's take Vampire Weekend as an example.

So a fan of Vampire Weekend says "look, these guys have sold 1000000 copies of their new album! Wow they are successful!" And the stimulus is the music critic's response to the fan's remark: "no no no, how many albums they sell cannot be used to say that they are SUCCESSFUL because numbers don't show the whole picture. They indicate problems of authenticity and incompetence."

Now, the key issue with the critic's remark is the meaning of SUCCESS. What does it mean for something to be successful? Who says that authenticity and incompetence are indications of success? Sure, in our world they do.. but in LALA land, you just cannot make this assumption. You need to provide it.

The reason being is that what if the fan of Vampire Weekend replies "whatever dude, Vampire Weekend still sells 1000000 copies and although they are not authentic, they are still god damn rich and money is all that is important" or "well, they may be incompetent.. but I still like them because they are incompetent. Reminds me of my old days of garage bands." You see where this is going? You need to provide a bridge that links the notion of these two ideas with what it means to be successful.

As for E), the problematic phrase is "not in themselves marks of success," which means that authenticity and incompetence (derived from recording sales) are not 100% indicative of success. But doesn't it still leave some room for recording sales to be used to say whether or not the band is successful? The conclusion straight up rejects this notion.

B) on the other hand, just nails it 100% leaving no room for such possibility. It says that yes, lack of authenticity or incompetence do mean that you are unsuccessful, therefore, sales cannot be used to say whether or not you are successful.

Let me know what you think!

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Monday, May 20 2013

young_gun87854

Retaking an old PT (a good idea?)

Hey guys, I have heard from a friend that retaking an old PT (that you have done in the past) under timed condition is a good idea because after all, PTs are scarce and by repeating an old PT, you get to re-engage and consolidate the thinking process.

Good or a waste of time?

Thoughts?

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Thursday, Sep 19 2013

Ah, this PSA was a hard one. But like all SA type questions, just focus on the premise and conclusion, and how to link them.

The conclusion says that record sales should not be used to gauge the success of an indie rock band.

Why? Because good sales indicate that they are too "trendy," and in the indie rock world, being poppy is "uncool" and these guys actually prefer their sales to be not so high. But on the other hand, they also don't want it to be too low because that just means that you are incompetent (yea.. fickle bunch of people right?).

So the key words that you need to link up in this stimulus are "trendy" and "incompetence" to "not being successful," which B does precisely.

If you read E closely, it actually destroys the link between the premise and conclusion. If you tell me that authenticity and incompetence are not enough to gauge the success of an indie band, why the hell are you telling me that record sales (which indicate the two ideas above) are a bad way to gauge success? Can't we use it along with some other measures?

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Wednesday, Sep 18 2013

Haha.. my symptoms seem to indicate a burnout.

Yes, I do feel guilty about taking a break for an hr. I actually feel guilty all the time.

I will make sure to give myself 2~3 days of complete rest before the test day.

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Tuesday, Jun 18 2013

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Psychology behind answer choice A

Hey guys, I am posting this to share my experience on answer choice A.

After doing about 20 PTs or so, I have reached a level where I can sort of see what the LSAT writers are intending to do with our minds.

I must say that these guys truly are the masters of their domain.

They have all sorts of tricks up their sleeves, and they UNDERSTAND how our fragile minds work.

Specifically, I have had this weird feeling that they not only employ mind tricks with us with answer choice E, but also with A.

On early parts of LR sections, most answer choice As look very attractive, IF you do not have a full grasp of the stimulus.

The writers usually give you some useless information that disguises the true core of the argument and include specific words from that part of the stimulus in the answer choice.

On the other hand, for some really crazy convoluted questions, there is a surprisingly high frequency of A being the right answer.

I think the psychology behind this is that when people face a really confusing stimulus, most of them panic and try to rely on POE without really knowing what they are looking for.

But the problem with POE without a good understanding of the stimulus is that the writer can throw in even more confusing answer choices and virtually pull you apart in all directions, ultimately leaving you more confused, and precious time ticking away.

So my takeaway from this is to be suspicious of As for easier questions as they are likely to be wrong, and for the really hard ones later on, give more attention to A being a contender.

By the way, my experience is definitely not conclusive.

Try it out for yourselves :)

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Wednesday, Sep 18 2013

Hey there K,

I don't know about the others, but you certainly are doing better than me. -1 RC?? That is amazing. My lowest RC ever was -3 and that was from the 50s. 60s RC is wooping my ass so hard that it is bleeding haha. Anyway, I just want to tell you that you should be happy about your achievements and keep the momentum going! You seem to have mastered 2 parts out of 3, which leaves you with just 1 to improve on. And who knows, maybe on the test day the LSAT evil decides to give you a break on LR and you end up with -6 total wrong. With your current streak in LR and RC, combined with that shine of light in LR, you are in the 99th percentile.

Don't lose faith.

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Monday, Sep 16 2013

Hey JY, answer choice E seems to be quite uncharacteristic of LSAT to allow you to make the assumption that no antibiotics decreases meat yield (because the stimulus only says that AB increases meat yield). Wouldn't you agree?

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Thursday, Sep 12 2013

May I request an alternative explanation to this question that relies more on intuition?

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Thursday, Sep 12 2013

For those who have not taken 62 yet.. be mentally prepared..

It's a total mind f@#$. I thought maybe it was just me but turns out to be a notoriously difficult PT. Jesus I was shocked by the LR Game RC combo attack haha.

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young_gun87854
Wednesday, Sep 11 2013

Is it just me or did others also find this section merciless.

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Wednesday, Sep 11 2013

I can see where this is coming from. I feel that there is a major shift from the 50s to 60s in terms of LR and Logic Games.

For LR, I don't think the logic is harder per se, but the answer choices are way more confusing. Even though I understood the stimulus and know what to look for, I can't quite burn through the answer choices because they are all so similar and the correct answer is usually only different by a single word.

And for games.. I don't know about you guys but this area certainly got a lot harder for me. I used to average -2 on games due to silly mistakes but starting from the late 50s, this section started to be where I lose bulk of my points at. Many of the newer games contain more 'global' questions which requires heavy usage of trial and error, and for people like me who are kinda sloppy, these questions are like mine fields.

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Monday, Jun 10 2013

young_gun87854

PT41.S1.Q22 - rules unpunished moral guidance

Hey guys, I was going over my old PT's and I still cannot get a full understanding of this question.

The stim basically says:

"if violation of explicit rules are routinely left unpunished, chaos results. Therefore, we ought never to allow any explicit rules to go unpunished."

Well, this is a typical

A->B

/B

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/A argument structure.

I can see that the author assumes that we do not want chaos, but I don't think LSAC is that crazy to think that it is a flaw.

The answer choice hints at us that the actual flaw of this stim is that there is a flawed jump from "routinely" to to "never," but I don't see how this works.

Any thoughts?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-1-question-22/

Hey guys,

I revisited one of my old PTs and got stuck at this question because I am not really understanding what the stimulus is saying. It's about politics and yes, I have ZERO interest in politics so it is extra hard for me to see what the author is saying.

BTW, the link:

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-3-question-22/

Ok, so I do understand up to the point where the author's argument begins.

Poor candidates need money from rich dudes to win elections and therefore likely to compromise their views (to align their views with their patrons).

But this sentence is giving me a hard time: "But since the wealthy are dispersed among the various political parties in roughly equal proportion to their percentage in the overall population."

In roughly equal proportion to their percentage in the overall population? What? Does 'overall population' mean literally the population of a country? Or does it mean population of the party?

And what does this have anything to with whether or not the candidate will or not compromise?

POE got me to B because the others are very irrelevant but I really want to understand the logic behind it.

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Friday, Sep 06 2013

I like sea cucumbers. Koreans love to eat them raw.

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Friday, Sep 06 2013

AH! That is a great way of explaining this question, % of %.

That clears it up. Thank you very much!

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Tuesday, Sep 03 2013

Hey JY, a huge confusion with logic, especially regarding the first statement: "any food that is not sterilized and sealed."

I read this as not sterilized AND not sealed (neither sterilized NOR sealed), so didn't split them in the sufficient condition!

So the 1st and 2nd sentence combined indicates a bi-conditional. Correct?

Furthermore, I am confused with answer choice D (although it seemed right under time pressure) because why can’t nonsterilized food go through the “acceptable” method (which includes the sterilizing and sealing option) and become bacteria free? Am I misreading something?

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Monday, Sep 02 2013

Wowzer.. I can't believe this question's difficulty level is Easy on 7sage.

I feel like an idiot -_-;;

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