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Monday, Nov 27 2017

If your strongest section is Logic Games and your weakest section is RC then you are much more likely to score better on this test than your average.

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Wednesday, Jul 26 2017

I'd be down, email is -removed, please pm for email-

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Saturday, Sep 23 2017

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Hardest & Most Difficult LSAT Sections ever listed

Hey guys, I know we only finished with the test a week ago, and even some are finishing up in Florida today (Congrats btw!). And I haven't even really given much thought to a re-take, but if I do it's because I would have scored in the high 160's or low 170's and I want to punch that up higher since I'm a splitter.

However for us high scorers that are looking to retake, we probably already know the material pretty well. The benefit we can obtain from doing the easier sections administered over the years is likely minimal. Through 7Sage I scored every test, even ones I didn't do so that I would have access to their difficulty rating for each section within every PT. I figured this could be a great tool for everyone whenever they decide to start studying again to have a list of not just the hardest questions, or hardest games/passages, but to have the most difficult sections. This way when we're just doing timed sections instead of full PT's we can target our studying on the more difficult material. I'm also slightly out of my mind and have likely lost a sense of purpose without the LSAT in my life, but therapy will come later.

Anyways the sections are ranked from 1-5 with obviously five being the most difficult and one being the easiest. For the sake of this list I only will put up those sections that are ranked at either 4 or 5 difficulty. From my own research it seems that 7Sage largely ranks these sections by how hard or easy the questions are, so even though June's LSAT RC passages were considerably dense and difficult, because the questions themselves were very straight-forward and easy the section itself was only given a two-star ranking.

Reading Comprehension:

5 Star- PT 50 Yep, only one RC was ever given a five start difficulty ranking for some reason and that was PT 50. It makes sense since nearly half the questions in the section are given a four or five star difficulty rating!

4 Star- PT 19, PT 38, PT 43, PT 45, PT 51, PT 53, PT 54, PT 55, PT 65, PT 67, PT 74 (was -9 on this one during the summer, never went below -6 any other time), PT C2, PT 79. I'm sure PT 82 will be joining these ranks soon as well.

Logical Games:

5 Star- PT A, PT B, PT C, PT 18, PT 27, PT 31, PT 34, PT 36, PT 62

4 Star- PT 9, PT 13, PT 23, PT 30, PT 32, PT 35, PT 37, PT June 2007 (Free LSAT offered through LSAC), PT 57, PT 61, PT 66, PT 68

Logical Reasoning:

5 Star- PT 14 s4, PT 24 s2, PT 28 s1, PT 45 s1, PT 70 s4

4 Star- PT Feb 97 s1&3, PT 14 s2, PT 17 s2, PT 21 s3, PT 22 s2&4, PT 23 s3, PT 25 s2, PT 36 s1, PT 39 s2, PT 40 s3, PT 43 s3, PT 44 s4, PT 47 s3, PT 48 s4, PT 49 s2, PT 51 s3, PT 56 s2, PT 58 s1, PT 59 s2, PT 63 s3, PT 71 s3, PT 76 s2

Note: I left out the first eleven PT's as they're so old and LR so different I didn't think they'd be too useful.

Takeaways: Genuinely shocked at the results in the sense that I've always felt like the newer tests were much more difficult than the older one. I felt that the RC in the 70's was way more difficult than usual, but it looks like even though the passages tend to likely be more dense, the questions themselves aren't that hard. If you really want to challenge yourself in RC it looks like using PT's in the 50's are the way to go, especially since they still have comparative reading passages.

In regards to Logic Games, though we have seen some weirder and more difficult games the past few years, they have balanced that with easier games to begin with in those sections. I can attest that some of the earlier PT's especially PT A, B, and C which are included in SuperPrep are difficult the entire way, if you really want to test your LG than this is the way to go.

The difficulty in Logical Reasoning seems to be pretty consistent over the years though this list helped me realize using some of those PT's in the 20's may end up being useful.

Overall it makes sense why the PT's over the last few years have relatively tighter curves than those from way back as the test's difficulty actually seem to be easier on balance. I hope everyone who unfortunately has to re-take or is taking for the first time can find this list useful!

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Sunday, Sep 17 2017

Penn, Columbia, Harvard are my big three honestly. I grew up in Philly and Penn's name always held so much respect from everyone in the area. For someone like myself who was at one point a high school drop-out to attend there would just be very symbolic for how far I've come. Columbia because I currently live in NY, so I wouldn't have to move or leave all my friends and because its Columbia and offers tremendous opportunities and an easy path into Big Law. And I don't even think I have to explain why I want to go to Harvard ha.

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Friday, Oct 13 2017

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Discussing PT 82

Hey I was a really high scorer headed into Sept averaging 175, but was really disappointed when I received my 167. I worked all summer on LR after going -9 in June, and was shocked to see -9 once again in Sept. For reference over 20 PT's in the summer I never did worse than -6 on LR combined and my range was -0 to -4 combined. I got the test back and could see that lack of sleep and nerves got to me as I missed my first ever MC question in any test ever and a few others that were insanely easy, but I can't lie there are a couple that have me completely stumped which is really rare for me.

Also holy hell, some of those RC questions were ridiculous. Anyone able to figure out why #7 and #18 were right in those sections? I wanted to see if we could discuss some of the questions on this test because it's killing me lol.

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zaroberts1991321
Monday, Sep 11 2017

@ said:

Approach

I honestly didn't improve until I made myself understand what I just read and how it fit into the overall passage. You have to constantly stay engaged with the content. Law School revolves around your ability to read dense material and understand the issue at point and research information very quickly. The RC is testing that exact ability. Constantly make mental notes of where certain things are and how it relates to the overall viewpoint of what the author is trying to state. I only underline spcific names, the start of lists, and when I see a shift in the authors view point.

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zaroberts1991321
Monday, Sep 11 2017

@ said:

Wanna share what kind of practice you did since the June LSAT to improve that much?

Of course, logic games were never my issue as I went perfect in June on those. I realized that I needed to shore up on my RC and LR though. I used Manhattan Guide for RC and then their guide for LR. After going through both of those I used Nathan Fox's LR Encyclopedia and ripped through that in a couple weeks.

I spent a month doing all of those and after that I started taking PT's and saw my scores jump into the low 170's-mid 170's. After going through tons of PT's over the past month I've started to slowly see my scores creep up to mid 170-s- High 170's to the point where a 171 or 170 is an outlier for me now.

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zaroberts1991321
Sunday, Sep 10 2017

@ said:

Awesome job! How many sections of logic games did you have to fool proof to hit -0?

It's weird LG has been my best section for quite some time. I think after doing LG from 19-38 over 6 months ago I would consistently hit -0 as long as I wasn't rusty. It was RC that honestly took an insane amount of time to get from -7 to -10 when I started to the -0 to -4 that I consistently find myself in now

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Sunday, Sep 10 2017

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Just hit my first 180!

Long time observer, first time poster here. Just hit my first perfect score ever on PT 54. Went -1 RC, -1 LR, -0 LG.

I scored a 165 on the June test and was really disappointed. Upped the work effort over the summer and over my last 20 PT's I'm averaging a 174. With a week left until the test I'm praying I can match that average on the real thing as I was averaging a 168-169 headed into June! Just wanted to share my accomplishment and hopefully let others know this test is very learnable as long as you're willing to put in the work!

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Wednesday, Nov 01 2017

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PS exceeding two pages

Hey I was just wondering for those schools that say they want their personal statement to be two pages, would they hold it against you if you went a paragraph or two over the two pages?

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