Canadian Thread - LSAT/Law School

LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
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From various posts, I see that there are a lot of Canadians here. I figured that it might be useful to have a thread devoted to Canadian related topics, whether related to the LSAT or law school.

I am entering my 2nd year at a Canadian law school, and try helping out on the forum when I can. Feel free to ask me anything on the forum or via PM; I'd love to help to the extent that I can. Regardless, I think a Canadian thread might be useful as these topics will all be in one post instead of strewn all over.

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  • harrismeganharrismegan Member
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    CANADA <3
  • bSM45LSATbSM45LSAT Member
    edited August 2015 522 karma
    OOOOOOOOO CANADAAAAAAA
  • notwilliamwallacenotwilliamwallace Alum Member
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    From the greatest of lakes to the greenest of greens...To the rockiest mountains and everything in between...CANADA!!!!
  • da.cerillida.cerilli Free Trial Member
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    Hey, I was wondering if you can comment on how being from the natural sciences will influence how Canadian law schools view my application. I have a an undergraduate degree in biochemistry and am working on my master's in chemistry right now but I feel a lot of schools will look down upon that because I have no "law" background.
  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
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    I don't think schools will look down upon that, but the contrary. However, I can really only speak with certainty about my law school - where my classmates come from almost every type of background, and few with a law related degree. You are not expected to come from a law related background. It's the job of the law school to teach you law, so I would not be concerned at all about having a non-law background.
  • da.cerillida.cerilli Free Trial Member
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    Alright, I appreciate your input. The other issue on my mind is I have a lot of science related extracurriculars (volunteering at the hospital, got my name on a psychiatric text, etc.) Can you comment on how U of T may treat extracurriculars from outside the normal domains?
  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
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    I think the things you mentioned would improve your application. I think things which make you unique will in general make your application better.
  • PacificoPacifico Alum Inactive ⭐
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    Tell me more about how splitters can get into McGill...
  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
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    Hey @Pacifico Sorry, I didn't apply to McGill and am not familiar with their application process.
  • Faaabs93Faaabs93 Alum Member
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    Should I expect to go bald by the end of first year? hahaha
  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
    edited August 2015 1878 karma
    First semester. Just kidding, I actually enjoyed 1L. You develop a rhythm of studying etc... 1L has its pressured times but I really liked it.
  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
    edited April 2018 1878 karma

    Bumping this thread to the front as I'm on here again after a long time away and I would be happy to help anyone if I can.

  • grace.tang.cagrace.tang.ca Free Trial Member
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    I'm going to school in the US (Canadian Student), but wanted to know what kinds of law are common in Canada? I feel as though the Canadian market is much smaller most Canadian lawyers end up on Bay street. What kinds of law are practiced commonly other than corporate here?

  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
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    Hi @"grace.tang.ca" I think most of the areas of law I can think of are practiced in Canada just like in the US, though your point re: size of Canadian market vs US is of course true. Is there a particular area of law that you're thinking of?

  • grace.tang.cagrace.tang.ca Free Trial Member
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    @LSATisland , I'm going to be pursuing a combination of corporate, health and IP law :) Those are the areas of interest for me as a science and business major. The Law School I'll be attending has a patent clinic and health clinic, so I'll be sure to check them out!

  • Tim HortonsTim Hortons Alum Member
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    Just chiming in to say, thank goodness there's an active Canadian thread, eh.

  • PearsonSpecterLittUpPearsonSpecterLittUp Alum Member
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    Question for you, do you know of any Canadians who studied in The US and then came back to Canada and are practicing?

  • keepcalmandneuronkeepcalmandneuron Alum Member
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    Hello fellow Canadians! EYYYYYYY!

    I'm also a STEM graduate trying to apply to law schools in the US solely because of the sheer difference in pharmaceutical market / IP industry between US vs Canada.

    What are some splitter-friendly schools in Canada?

  • thisisspartathisissparta Alum Member
    edited May 2018 1363 karma

    @keepcalmandneuron said:
    Hello fellow Canadians! EYYYYYYY!

    I'm also a STEM graduate trying to apply to law schools in the US solely because of the sheer difference in pharmaceutical market / IP industry between US vs Canada.

    What are some splitter-friendly schools in Canada?

    Generally speaking, Canada isn't quite as splitter friendly as some schools in the States. The schools here tend to place a greater weightage on one's undergraduate performance. That said, from the research that I've done, in Ontario, Western and Queen's seem to place an emphasis on one's best 2 (B2)/last 2 (L2) years' GPA (they still do factor in cGPA, however). This might tend to favor splitters as admissions committee's can (somewhat) overlook a poor performance in a given year. Likewise, U of T too has a best 3 year's policy (they do not factor in your worst year).

    As for the rest of Canada, UAlberta and UCalgary are purely L2 schools (they don't factor in an individual's cGPA). Again, this might be considered splitter friendly. Dalhousie factors the higher score between your cGPA and L2. UBC and U Vic drop your lowest 4 and 6 courses, respectively.

  • keepcalmandneuronkeepcalmandneuron Alum Member
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    @thisissparta Thank you so much for this information. Really helps. If you don't mind me asking, are you planning on applying to Canadian schools as well?

  • thisisspartathisissparta Alum Member
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    @keepcalmandneuron said:
    @thisissparta Thank you so much for this information. Really helps. If you don't mind me asking, are you planning on applying to Canadian schools as well?

    I am! Not planning on applying for the upcoming cycle, though. I'm headed to grad school at U of T first, and then planning on applying to law school (probably the cycle after the upcoming one).

  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
    edited May 2018 1878 karma

    @"grace.tang.ca" said:
    @LSATisland , I'm going to be pursuing a combination of corporate, health and IP law :) Those are the areas of interest for me as a science and business major. The Law School I'll be attending has a patent clinic and health clinic, so I'll be sure to check them out!

    That's awesome! It's nice that you already know your area of interest prior to law school. Many of my fellow students changed their plans during law school, so it might be good idea to still explore other areas during law school, in addition to progressing further in your specific area.

    @"Tim Hortons" said:
    Just chiming in to say, thank goodness there's an active Canadian thread, eh.

    Yup, welcome! I like your profile name.

    @PearsonSpecterLittUp said:
    Question for you, do you know of any Canadians who studied in The US and then came back to Canada and are practicing?

    Sure, I know some that transferred mid-school and others that transferred following graduation. For the latter, there is a process called NCA which requires the transferee to take a few exams (they assess your application and then determine the amount of tests required - I think between 4 to 12 or so) in addition to taking the bar of course. Are you planning on going to a US school and then practicing within Canada?

    @keepcalmandneuron said:
    Hello fellow Canadians! EYYYYYYY!

    I'm also a STEM graduate trying to apply to law schools in the US solely because of the sheer difference in pharmaceutical market / IP industry between US vs Canada.

    What are some splitter-friendly schools in Canada?

    Oh, that's really cool. Sounds like some of your interests might overlap with @"grace.tang.ca"

    If I'm not mistaken, I believe McGill is such an example. I can only speak to U of T's admissions with certainty: they assess your application by 1/3 LSAT score, 1/3 GPA, and 1/3 Personal Statement. Although I suppose that the last third might include the life experiences included in the statement, I like the fact that they place equal weight on the personal statement. A true personal statement can really reflect a lot about the person writing. It's like Frost's definition of style as representing how the writer takes her/himself and what s/he is saying. "It is the mind skating circles around itself as it moves forward."

    @thisissparta said:

    @keepcalmandneuron said:
    @thisissparta Thank you so much for this information. Really helps. If you don't mind me asking, are you planning on applying to Canadian schools as well?

    I am! Not planning on applying for the upcoming cycle, though. I'm headed to grad school at U of T first, and then planning on applying to law school (probably the cycle after the upcoming one).

    Awesome! Great to see someone plunging in on the pursuit of knowledge.

  • AshleighKAshleighK Alum Member
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    Hey! I'm a US-Canadian citizen. I'm from Florida and I'm attending university at Waterloo, I just wanted to chime in and say that I have close ties to the U of T law school admissions process. I'm the President of our legal studies society at UW and I've worked closely with a senior admissions officer from U of T to arrange law school admission info-sessions. If you guys have questions feel free to ask!

    The person I know has told me these things on "securing" your chances at U of T:
    1.) Aim for a LSAT score of 160+
    2.) Have a GPA of over 80%
    3.) Take time to build your personal profile/ write your personal statement with GREAT thought - also use resources such as your university's writing center to proofread/ change your statement
    4.) GET INVOLVED. They care about seeing you as a person with interests! Grades aren't everything.
    5.) There is 0 expectation of you to work in a law firm. It's difficult as an undergraduate but obviously if you can, go for it. Otherwise, they still respect you working and getting volunteer experience. They like to see consistency.
    6.) Get letters from one professor (at least) and one from your place of employment.

    This is all I can think of ATM but feel free to shoot me a message with any questions! I also know in terms of scholarships and financial aid, U of T is extremely generous. Hope this helps :)

  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
    edited May 2018 1878 karma

    Yeah, those are all great, accurate points @ashleighkong22. I've worked with the admissions office as well, volunteering to assist them with their programs and tours. I've also found the admissions officers really helpful, transparent and informative for prospective students. I'm sure other schools are like that too, and it really reflects the benefit of communicating with the admissions representatives. Are you planning to stay in Canada for law school?

  • PearsonSpecterLittUpPearsonSpecterLittUp Alum Member
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    Sure, I know some that transferred mid-school and others that transferred following graduation. For the latter, there is a process called NCA which requires the transferee to take a few exams (they assess your application and then determine the amount of tests required - I think between 4 to 12 or so) in addition to taking the bar of course. Are you planning on going to a US school and then practicing within Canada?

    I am not 100% sure, but want to know what my options are :) Would I need to article upon returning to Canada? Would acquiring a Canadian LLM be of any help??

    THANK YOUU

  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
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    @PearsonSpecterLittUp said:

    Sure, I know some that transferred mid-school and others that transferred following graduation. For the latter, there is a process called NCA which requires the transferee to take a few exams (they assess your application and then determine the amount of tests required - I think between 4 to 12 or so) in addition to taking the bar of course. Are you planning on going to a US school and then practicing within Canada?

    I am not 100% sure, but want to know what my options are :) Would I need to article upon returning to Canada? Would acquiring a Canadian LLM be of any help??

    THANK YOUU

    The NCA process applies to all transferees, as far as I know. A Canadian LLM does not evade the process, but it may reduce the amount of tests you would need to take to 4 (which is the minimum). That alone would likely not be a good reason to do an LLM, since taking a few tests is much easier than a year-long graduate degree. (Also, it's possible you'd only need to take 4 anyhow; they evaluate each applicant independently.)

    If you transferred back to Canada right after law school, you'd need to article. I believe if you worked for some time in the U.S., you can evade articling but I'm not sure the length of work necessary for this.

    I should probably add that I'm speaking of the Ontario process. I'm not familiar with the regulations of other provinces.

  • AshleighKAshleighK Alum Member
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    @LSATisland I would like to come back to the US but I will apply to some Canadian law schools! At the end, I'll be looking at the school who can offer me the best path and most financial aid. I'm grateful that either choice, I will pay "local" rates instead of international fees. Are you planning to stay in Canada?

  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
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    Yes, I'm planning on staying in Canada. I applied both to U.S. and Canadian law schools, but ultimately chose Canada because of that reason.

    Wow, you're fortunate to have the advantage of local rates with either option.

  • dncdrc_04dncdrc_04 Alum Member
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    Anyone in the Toronto area who is looking for a study buddy for the September exam?

  • AshleighKAshleighK Alum Member
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    @LSATisland said:
    Yes, I'm planning on staying in Canada. I applied both to U.S. and Canadian law schools, but ultimately chose Canada because of that reason.

    Wow, you're fortunate to have the advantage of local rates with either option.

    A little late on the response but - did you happen to apply to UBC? I want to apply to law schools in Cali (I'm tired of east coast lol). Just curious to know if you applied to UBC! It's a great school and I'm just wondering what the value or difference would be going to UBC vs. a UCalifornia school...

  • LSATislandLSATisland Free Trial Inactive Sage
    edited August 2018 1878 karma

    @AshleighK said:

    @LSATisland said:
    Yes, I'm planning on staying in Canada. I applied both to U.S. and Canadian law schools, but ultimately chose Canada because of that reason.

    Wow, you're fortunate to have the advantage of local rates with either option.

    A little late on the response but - did you happen to apply to UBC? I want to apply to law schools in Cali (I'm tired of east coast lol). Just curious to know if you applied to UBC! It's a great school and I'm just wondering what the value or difference would be going to UBC vs. a UCalifornia school...

    Hi @AshleighK

    I didn't apply to UBC but I hear it's a great school. Sorry I can't advise much more than that!

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