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In/Out Games Help
garebear79
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Hey everyone,
I've gotten to the point where I'm quite confident in my abilities about most of the games, but I'm having a lot of trouble with getting the In/Out games to click, especially when it comes to mastering the conditional rules and logic chains. If anyone has good suggestions about good strategies for mastering these in particular or tips about how they've been used on the recent LSATs in particular, that would be very much appreciated.
In particular, the questions where a sufficient in a long logic chain is failed or the necessary is met are particularly vexing for me.
Looking forward to hearing from y'all!
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I'm getting better at these but what helped me is revisiting the lessons, doing some practice sets of hard/medium/ easy in/out games, and FPing those types too. Still have a lot of work to do to perfect it but it's helped
I did this once and just kept FPing a few games from the earlier PTs and came across some in my PTs. Also BRing them!
Revisiting the lessons on In/Out games helped me a lot. In addition, you could try making your own conditional chains to see what triggers and what doesn't.
If that part of the conditional chain is the thing tripping you up then you're in good shape! Remember, if the sufficient is not met or the necessary is met then the rule goes away. Nothing happens. We can ignore it. Irrelevant.
If I am a Jedi then I have the force. J -> F.
I am not a Jedi (/J). But I could be Darth Vader and have the force. We don't know. We can ignore the previous conditional.
I'd recommend going back over these lessons:
https://7sage.com/lesson/conditional-rules-trigger-v-irrelevant/
https://7sage.com/lesson/conditional-rules-in-games-drill/
https://7sage.com/lesson/conditional-rules-in-games-drill-flashcards/
And I think this is the lesson that deals with the issue you're talking about in long chains. In/Out games killed me for a while because of the same thing, so I practiced this a lot to get used to it. Pure sequencing games are also really great practice for dealing with these long conditional chains. I'd recommend working on those some, even untimed just to really practice dealing with the long chains until you feel comfortable. Also make sure to watch the explanation videos so that you can see how JY works through it.
https://7sage.com/lesson/chaining-conditional-statements-together/
I don't remember which lesson this was in (I think it's one of the ones linked above) but JY suggested creating your own long chains (whatever letters and arrows you want) and then failing/satisfying different conditions and going through the act of figuring out all of the implications. That might be helpful practice/warmup!