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Everyone now:
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What’s the curve
-11 according to PowerScore CEO
Got my score. See y'all in November lol.
Lol same here, way below my average.
Wayyyyyy below my PT average. November, here we come!
Yea FML. Horrible score! Gotta do this in November again! I’m heart broken I thought I did way better than this score
Way lower than my average....where can I find the answer key?
November it is.:/
For those of use who didn’t get the score we wanted, what should our approach be to review this test? Should we try to blind review by at least attempting all the questions under untimed conditions or check our answers now and just try to figure out the ones we got wrong? I was expecting to get scanned copies of our question books with our markings but that’s obviously not the case so there’s no way for me to know which ones I circled to come back to.
Answer sheet should be available on the LSAC website under the name "Answer Sheet." Correct answers would be under the "Item Response Report" link.
Yeah, I know. I’m just wondering if I should try to answer the questions first before looking at the answers like I would in blind review, so I don’t jump the gun and just check which ones I got right and wrong.
So basically, should I treat this like a PT and make an attempt to answer the questions (even though I don’t have circled questions to come back to) before checking the answers so I can get an idea of what I did bad on both test day and untimed versus what I got right untimed but wrong on test day?
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I guess I'll see y'all pretty faces again in November. (heart)
For sure taking November to get in the school of my choice, but ya'll I legit did 4 points than my best. Best I've ever gotten, and a super high percentile, was it just an easy exam or was I a fluke?? I studied for max 3 weeks spread out over 2 months and this was my 2nd LSAT. Super happy but really confused.
PS: My schools don't average LSATs just take your highest mark. Thank God!
How does the curve work? Is it already factored into our Raw score?
I’m soooo pisssseeed at myself I got 22 questions on my LG and I forgot to bubble in one answer and I knew it!!! And RC totally screed me!! I’m so pissssseeeeddddd!!!!!
Oh sorry. I misread your post. This is my second take. I took my first one last December. What I did was save everything to my computer. Not sure if you know, but LSAC takes the PDF down after a certain time. Anyway, I think it depends on your score. If your score was around the 7Sage Analytics average, then I would go untimed PT then review. But if it's below, I would save this test after I have reviewed and practiced other available PTs. Then do a timed retake.
I approached my December copy this way. my rationality was that, the LSAC score already shows my timed test. Going untimed seems like a practice in futility specially if you have not reviewed any LSAT material after September 8. Its just a reassurance practice of "I could have done better if I did X, Y, and Z". However if youve been studying even AFTER the September 8 test, then by all means go untimed. I saved my December test for my last PT before test day. This could be comparable data of the First Take mistake and then after you've worked on yoour fundamentals some more.
My IRR sheet is blank. Are they uploading them later?
Ditto! What’s the deal?
If your IRR sheet is blank try opening on a computer instead of phone/tablet!
For all of us retaking in November...
Is the time that the score gets released too late to apply?
Just wanted to say thank you. I improved from a 152 in June to a 163 today. Im so happy. now to finish polishing off applications!
I can see my total score and have the answer sheet but how do you find out what you got on the individual sections.
@aholtzer look at your IRR and compare the credited response with the answers you bubbled in.
No worries! And okay, that makes a lot of sense. I actually scored the same as my average, but I was hoping to meet or beat my highest (which is just foolish to expect or hope for). I haven’t studied at all since the administration though, so I think you’re right — at this point it’d just be an ego boost to do it untimed.
To figure out my weak areas, I think I just need to check my answers now and decide how to study moving forward.. thank you for the insight. This is my first take so I wasn’t sure how best to proceed.
Has anyone seen that now 23 schools are accepting the GRE in lieu of LSAT including many top T-20 law schools. I just took my first LSAT and got 171. I think instead of taking another LSAT test and risk my score going down, I might just take the GRE and if high enough submit both scores for my application. Is anyone else thinking the same thing. The thing with GRE way easier to study for the GRE than the LSAT .
@GenGen85 who asked "how do i figure the curve?" The curve is built into your score . The curve defines how many wrong to get a 170 score, so on the Sept. test the curve was -11 so getting 11 wrong would equal a 170 score.
@aholtzer I don't think this's too meaningful. Once you have an LSAT score schools have to report it. And since GRE is still not currently used in ranking, it won't offset the influence too much.
I would check this. I know that for Harvard they only accept I think 2 GRE applicants. There are also stipulations for other schools like if you have NEVER taken an LSAT administered test, then theyll accept the GRE. But if you've already taken an LSAT administered test, then GRE is moot. I think this is to boost PhD holders to pursue law. But Im not sure. I would definitely check with the school just to make sure.
I think within the next couple years that the numbers will "tip" and more and more schools will accept the GRE in lieu of LSAT or in addition to the LSAT ,similar to MBA programs taking both the GMAT or GRE or colleges taking both the ACT or SAT. now that 23 schools have started this trend including many in the top 20, I believe others will follow suit too. For now glad i took the LSAT early in my academic career (rising junior in college) since the exam holds for 5 years and I got a good score of 171, but will keep looking at the trends to see what happens and possibly take the GRE as well instead of another stab at the LSAT. I feel my studying for the LSAT could help me do well on the GREs particularly the reading comprehension helping with the verbal section of the GRE.
I think its only a matter of time that GRE will also factor into the law schools rankings and that all school will accept both scores and there wont be any stipulations that if you ever took a LSAT you cant submit a GRE. Wasnt willing to totally chance it so took the September 2018 LSAT, but definitely plan on taking the GRE after studying and seeing what happens. I def. cant take a chance that I study again for LSAT and my 171 score falls below 170. I also think studying for the GRE will feel way easier than studying for the LSAT.
As others have pointed out, once you take the LSAT schools will not consider your GRE score. Law schools began accepting the GRE after the University of Arizona Law began doing so to boost the number of applicants and enrollment at the school. Harvard followed suit, and obviously once Harvard does something in legal education other schools take notice.
The GRE is taken by far more students and is administered year round via computer tests, versus the LSAT which is administered every 2-3 months and strictly in person on paper $$$ (for now). I don't know if the GRE scores will ever factor into law school rankings, but a little competition for the LSAT would be good for students.
GRE scores already play a role in law school rankings. For reference, visit https://www.usnews.com/education/best-graduate-schools/articles/law-schools-methodology.
Here's the relevant quote: "Median LSAT and GRE scores (0.125): These are the combined median scores on the Law School Admission Test of all 2017 full-time and part-time entrants to the J.D. program. For the second consecutive year, U.S. News used median GRE scores in combination with LSAT scores for this indicator if they were reported for a law school's 2017 entering class."
Wow you sound quite accomplished there lol....
@studentservice will explanations be coming out for the September 2018LSAT anytime soon ?
It usually takes about 2 months for us to release explanation videos.
I took the September LSAT and I am planning on taking it again in November. Aside from going through the September test and doing timed practice tests, what does everyone do to prepare after they've taken it once? Is the best thing to do just go over weak areas and practice those types of questions? Curious what everyone's strategies are going into the next one.
Let me know!!!
Thanks ! Just doubling checking @studentservice