PT13.S4.Q7 - Murray and Jane

jmarin5jmarin5 Member
edited May 2021 in Logical Reasoning 162 karma

In PT 13, Section 4, Question 7, when Murray says "You are wrong to make this claim", does he mean that the claim being made is wrong? It is one thing to claim that a statement is wrong( false) and another to claim that the person making it is in the wrong. For example, one can say something that is factually accurate but at an inappropriate time. This makes the the person in the wrong but has no actual relevance on the truthfulness of the statement. I think this distinction is very relevant to answering the question, though not absolutely necessary.

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  • canihazJDcanihazJD Alum Member Sage ⭐
    edited May 2021 8491 karma

    "You are wrong..." is not the same as "the claim is wrong," taken as "the claim is factually incorrect" just as, "the conclusion doesn't follow" isn't the same as, "the conclusion is false."

    You could be wrong to make the claim because the claim is in fact false, but that is not the only possible reason, nor is it necessary or even sufficient. You being wrong is subjective and prescriptive.

    That said, I don't think the answer depends on whether Murray thinks the claim is factually incorrect or Jane is wrong for making the claim. You could remove that sentence or toggle the meaning, and the attack on question would still be the same.

    Murray:
    You avoid criticizing others for doing the same thing
    So you are motivated by personal dislike
    So you are wrong

  • jmarin5jmarin5 Member
    162 karma

    @canihazJD said:
    "You are wrong..." is not the same as "the claim is wrong," taken as "the claim is factually incorrect" just as, "the conclusion doesn't follow" isn't the same as, "the conclusion is false."

    You could be wrong to make the claim because the claim is in fact false, but that is not the only reason. You being wrong is subjective and prescriptive.

    That said, I don't think the answer depends on whether Murray thinks the claim is factually incorrect or Jane is wrong for making the claim. You could remove that sentence or toggle the meaning, and the attack on question would still be the same.

    Murray:
    You avoid criticizing others for doing the same thing
    So you are motivated by personal dislike
    So you are wrong

    Makes Sense! Thanks a lot!

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