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Hey guys. I'm still waiting for my decision from MSU and I got invited to a visit day on Monday. However, I don't live in Michigan or anywhere near so I can't go in person and had to opt for the virtual option which is meeting with an admissions adviser. Does anyone know what I should expect? I'm so nervous because this is realistically my last shot at going to law school.
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Can you ask them about class sizes for us? 😂 Law hub says they have like 80 faculty on staff but the class sizes are only around 150, this has been drastically cut from the 300 prior. It seems like they have cut off the bottom half of the incoming class to boost their rankings.
That and the school has gone through significant changes following the recent MSU football Larry Nasser sex scandal. Probably avoid that unless you want to really pry the lid open.
I will say that if MSU is your safety pick than it isn't really a realistic last shot option.. that would be Cooley.
You should appreciate that MSU is a lot more difficult now than it has been. They have really upped the requirements and cut the classes sizes.
Why MSU? Why Michigan?
I really like the prospects from Detroit Mercy, and Cleveland State University is a fine place as well.
Looking at your profile I think you should reach out to Cleveland State University and other schools in Ohio, they're very nice. Since you have interest in MSU and Duquesne I would recommend looking into more Pennsylvania schools like Drexel, Penn St., and Pittsburgh.
I am not sure how viable 2026 start is. You might need to begin adjusting expectations for 2027 start, try to have application in ASAP when they open this fall.
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I don't attend MSU's College of Law, so I don't know much about the admissions process or chances or anything like that, but I attend MSU for my current undergrad. I would recommend just looking for any information you can find and asking any questions at all, really, about it during the meeting. I do know that MSU law isn't as competitive as others, but I've heard of law students being able to bargain for better financial aid packages there. As someone in their Mock Trial program I'm also pretty familiar with the building itself, and just MSU in general.
I can give an undergrad info-dump, for what it's worth!
The building has about four stories, and by the elevators there's (usually) these wide windows that give an amazing view of the sunset if you have the unfortunate experience of being there late enough. Also the giant parking ramp that they keep messing with the pricing for. There's a giant courtroom on the fourth floor which Moot Court (undergrad and law school I believe?) uses to practice; and speaking of Moot Court, MSU Law's Moot Court program is incredibly good, from what I've heard. From someone who does undergrad Mock, just getting any sort of public speaking courtroom experience is good (and I think it's helped with a bit of my anxiety but also shoutout Lexapro). The building has two libraries, the law library on the main floor (which also has a pretty nice view since it's like two floors), and the Business Library or something below. I have no clue why the Business Library is in the law college, but Broad Business College is right across the street, so whatever. Broad is super modern architecture-esque, but it does have a Panera Bread in there and you can get free headshots from their photo pod, so I have no beef with them. No major beef anyway.
MSU's campus itself is pretty huge and the traffic is horrific on any kind of game day, really, with football being the worst. I could not care less about sports but a lot of people do, so be wary when driving to campus on certain days... But aside from that, campus is rather pretty. This spring, when the semester was ending, a bunch of tulips were blooming along my walk to the Main Library and it was lowkey beautiful; the Main Library also has some pretty nice gardens if you ever want to study outside or just read or something.
Michigan weather sucks, though. There are pretty horrific wind chills during winter, so if you're not used to harsh winters, please invest in some gloves. Headphones instead of earbuds. An actually good jacket. Ice on the roads and sidewalks is genuinely worse than the snow, and there usually aren't weather cancellations unless your professor decides to do it on an individual basis — which if you email them, they may be more amendable to hosting class online, depending on the time and location and conditions, etc., but it also literally just depends on the professor LOL.
@maijasuperstore thank you!!!
@pomergranatewellbutrin No prob twin :)
(also js remembered bc all my friends down in EL right now are mentioning it, their dairy store has VERY good ice cream... so that could be a beginning of law school treat)