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Wednesday, Sep 14 2022

@kevinhaominyan374

Hey there!

I had the same RC. I felt exactly the same as you did. Third passage was extremely convoluted and Fourth passage was reeeally strange. It was very unusual passage to read.

If you don't mind sharing, what's your average score?? You can also PM me if that's easier/more comfortable!

Thanks! :)

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Sunday, Sep 11 2022

im interested! please msg me the details for the discord

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Saturday, Sep 10 2022

Sept 28th!

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Friday, Sep 09 2022

@sisiroe150 Im leaning more towards 80s but other people might differ! :)

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Friday, Sep 09 2022

@rgsimpson01280

If you freeze like me during the first few minutes of the first section, as long as you didn't let that paralyze you for too long you should be okay!.

RCs are alwasy the most difficult for me too. Hope we both did okay!

First time takes are really the worst. I have OCT signed up as a back up.

Good luck!! :)

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Friday, Sep 09 2022

Just finished!!!

LG was okay, was too nervous in the beginning but was able to solve all games.

LR was standard.

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Wednesday, Sep 07 2022

whatever you do DO NOT GIVE UP!! YOU GOT THIS!

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Friday, Aug 12 2022

Yes some people can improve really fast if studied hard! I agree with above!

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Thursday, Aug 11 2022

I purchased Score Preview when I purchased OCT LSAT, but Im also taking SEPT LSAT, does the score preview automatically apply to the earliest one I take??

UPDATE: SP is automatically applied to the earliest LSAT

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Wednesday, Aug 10 2022

@chiwala4dad167 I agreed with the comments above

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Wednesday, Aug 10 2022

agree with above post- and make sure to take a break for about a week or two right before the test!!

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Wednesday, Aug 10 2022

I would push it back your LSAT to at least Sept if not October and carefully review what other people are saying above! Even just a month or two careful studying can help tremendously.

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Tuesday, Aug 02 2022

@52923

Funny- I'm in the opposite situation. I live in EC and am enamored by WC schools haha.

That said, there's lots of great schools here and I loved visiting schools in NYC.

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Tuesday, Aug 02 2022

This is probably the best post i've seen about BL so far.

Thanks so much.

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Wednesday, Jul 27 2022

@jhaldy10325 That was very helpful!

Thank you so much!

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Wednesday, Jul 27 2022

@jhaldy10325

Just a few follow up questions RE:"RC has gotten particularly hard, LG has trended fairly standard, and LR has been far less concerned with routine, structural logic".

Does this mean that we are probably not going to be surprised by a particularly unusual logic game?

What does LR that's far less concerned with routine, structural logic look like?? (e.g., less conditional logic??)

Which RC passages from the prev PTs do you think are the most representative of the difficulty we can expect on the upcoming tests? Would they be PTs 80s to 92?? I have been studying with older PTs for RC... :/

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Wednesday, Jul 06 2022

Hi there!

Sent you a msg :

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Thursday, Jun 30 2022

@wraith985-4026

This is as good an advice anyone could have asked for. I am not the person who created this post but was touched by your words of encouragements. Thanks, Jonathan.

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Wednesday, Jun 29 2022

Congrats!!! You worked hard and deserve all the success. I hope to be in similar situation soon.

Good luck with LS app !!

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Monday, Jun 27 2022

Thank you Josh!!

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Tuesday, Jun 21 2022

@connersieck697

Thank you for this, this really makes sense. I did try couple of sections and I think I like QS better. As you say, when I first started out I read QS first and half-assed the STIM and didn;t really engage with the argument. Now that I've adopted a habit of really engaging with the STIM it's less of a problem with QS first approach and I benefit much more from it.

Thanks Csieck!

@madisont144394

This has been my experience in the last few sections, thanks for the recommendation! :)

@tessahong02638

Thanks for your input! I hope you find what works better for you, I think it will come in due time. :))

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Monday, Jun 20 2022

@jhaldy10325

@jhaldy10325

@claremont525

@tessahong02638

Thank you all!! After reading your posts I've decided to try reading STEM first approach for the next couple of weeks. I looked at few questions and I agree with @jhaldy10325 that it does help with cleaning the slate (transitioning into new question) and time management. And I found that the tendency to get distracted is much reduced once you get comfortable with LR and I learned that I don't have to read stimulus any different than I would if I read STIM first.

This was so helpful, I'm glad I asked.

Good luck on your studies!!! :)))

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Friday, Jun 17 2022

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BIG LAW or BUST???

Hi all!

This is my second post today on an unrelated topic.

I didn't get into my top-choice (wait-listed at Columbia) last cycle and am reapplying. I am trying to figure out if I should matriculate this cycle regardless of the outcome (Big Law or not). In general, I think it's wise to reapply with new score and improved app but I'm turning 31 soon and starting to feel some pressure due to my low-income background and familial responsibilities. My parents will retire with no retirement savings and a whole lot of debt. These were the main reasons I was set on going to ~T30 schools (for regional BL opportunities and national portability).

Until recently, I was under the impression that employment outcomes for most graduates are largely bifurcated (either very well paying or not e.g., $190k vs $80k, I consider anything above $120k well-paid). But I met some people who went to T50~60 schools, work in mid-size firms, earn decent living (low end of six-figures e.g., $130k) and also have good work/life balance. Conversely, I personally know a few people who worked in BL for 3-5 years, suffered severe depression (even suicidal in one case), only to quit at the end. Obviously these are limited, small set of data but I'm starting to question whether BL is really the wise or the only path.

I want to know more about the middle-of-the-road outcomes like Mid Law. Does anyone else struggle about this? Everyone is unique but any of your thoughts or perspectives will be helpful both for myself and the community.

Thank you.

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Friday, Jun 17 2022

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Stimulus or Question Type First?

hi all! Happy Friday!!

Ellen Cassidy (EC) from Loophole is a strong proponent of the former but some disagree.

I have been studying for about 11 months and during the first few months, I liked reading question types first but decided to try stim-first approach after reading Loophole which I found to be helpful. At 10th month I got a much better handle on LR, scoring -3 to -5 untimed and I'm kind of tempted to switch back to see if it improves my timing.

EC argues that if you read questions first it will distract you when reading the stimulus.

Has anyone experienced anything similar??

Thanks for sharing!

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Hello everyone!

I applied for Fall 2022 but did not get into my top choices so I'm reapplying.

Here's my numbers,

Untimed:

LG: usually -2 or under

LR: usually -4 or under

RC: RC varies pretty wildly, usually ranges from -4 to -10

Timed:

LG: around -4

LR: around -8

RC: usually around -10

This tells me that I could score anywhere from 160 to 170ish (My real score is around 160 but goal is to hit 170+)

*One caveat is that these estimates are based on individual sections of different PTs. So it does not take into account how some sections might be easier than others for a specific test (I.e., they are not representative of actual tests). The numbers can be skewed if I happened to use hard RC LR LG when I study and vice versa.

I don't think I can improve a meaningful amount on RC, and I'm signed up for August LSAT.

I realize that the best way to get the most accurate score is to get an average of fresh PTs in the late 80s and early 90s which I have not done so far. I plan to do this about a month before the real test.

I'm tempted to take a fresh PT untimed to see my full potential, I would estimate my score to be anywhere from high 160s to mid 170s.

Should I push back the exam? Is 3 months enough time to improve from averaging 160 to averaging 170?

I study about 2-3 hours a day almost every day.

Any advice will be much appreciated! :)

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