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Monday, Oct 28 2019

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@ I'm done University and I work maybe two times a week. Which leads me to spend over 30 hours or more just studying for this exam. So personally for me, I think studying for a year would be mentally draining. Also I'm in Canada, we are big on rolling admissions, I want to write the LSAT March 2020, get results late April, if not good, re-write for July. Finish personal statements in August & get ready to submit all applications in September 2020 which is why I do not prefer writting in Fall. I don't have an excuse as to why I should not be prepared with 5 months of priority LSAT studying! It'll be hardwork but March 2020, I will get over a 160 :)

Ah I guess I assumed you're working full-time. Yes, 30 hours a week is practically studying full time and it would be very draining to keep that up for a year. I have no doubt that you can get there by March! Good luck!

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Friday, Dec 28 2018

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Upward Trend GPA

So my GPA is not doing me any favors when it comes to getting into my top choices. However, I do have a very significant uptrend. I started at a 2.6 and never dropped below a 3.7 during my last 4 semesters. Is this something law schools actually take into account? I've received conflicting information on this matter.

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Monday, Jan 28 2019

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March or June... or Both?

Should I even bother taking March? Or is it smarter to focus on June/July? I've already got one take under my belt and I know taking the test before you're ready isn't ideal. Should I be aiming for March if I'm totally comfortable studying until June? I know the unlimited takes rule is a thing now but I certainly don't have unlimited funds to shell out for these takes.

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Sunday, Oct 27 2019

Short answer is yes. Would be difficult but certainly possible. Can I ask you why March? Why not give yourself until next fall?

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Saturday, Oct 26 2019

I would only recommend ED of you don’t have to worry about money AND it’s your absolute top choice. I’m sure you’ll hear different things from different people but I would only recommend ED to people who can check off both of those boxes.

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Saturday, Oct 26 2019

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I've always thought of myself as "first gen" since neither of my parents graduated college. But one of my grandparents did. Does that make me not a first gen? I've never thought about it too hard but this thread has me wondering...

I could be wrong but I don’t think grandparents count unless you’re grandparent was your legal guardian. Yeah I never really thought about these things because my dad doesn’t even say he “went to college”. Seemed like a no brainer but it can get pretty complicated!

I’ve found my RC scores often depend on how quickly I’m able to complete “easy” passages. Is there a general time you high RC scorers aim for when it comes to the easiest passages? I feel like I should be able to do them in around 5 minutes but typically it takes around 6:30.

PSA: The Judicial candor passage from PT 82 is in my opinion one of the best comparative passage to learn from. When done properly, you could conceivably eliminate 80% of answer choices before moving onto passage B.

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Thursday, Oct 24 2019

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Given that your father technically received his degree before you, I’d stay away from saying it. Yes, there are different definitions floating around on the internet, some saying “the first to attend” but I think the most concrete/prevalent definition of a first generation student is the first person in his/her immediate family to obtain a college degree. I suppose you could say it if you want but then you may find yourself in a position where you have to explain exactly what you did above and, well.. my gut reaction is that most people would not consider you a first generation.

Hope this helps, and good luck with your apps!

P.S. I saw a couple of your posts, congrats on the score!

Yeah it's probably not worth having to explain. At any rate, I mention it in my personal statement so I suppose they can do with that information what they please.

And thanks a lot!!!

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Thursday, Oct 24 2019

Columbia does have the bigger name. But I encourage you to check out UVAs employment statistics. https://abovethelaw.com/schools/university-of-virginia-law/ Here's Columbia. https://abovethelaw.com/schools/columbia-law/ might be easier if you know what you want to do. I'm mostly looking at Clerkship numbers for myself when I compare employment stats. Columbia seems to place a massive amount of its students into Big Law while very few go on to do Federal Clerkships. So if you're like me and know you don't want to go into Big Law, Columbia might even be a little less appealing than UVA.

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Thursday, Oct 24 2019

Seems like you already started out with pretty incredible LSAT skill. I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you. Everyone is able to adjust to the "harder" tests. You just need to expose yourself to that material and BR thoroughly.

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Thursday, Oct 24 2019

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First gen question

"Are you in the first generation of your family to graduate from college?"

This is a complicated questions for me because my dad earned a bachelors degree over the course of his 20+ years in the military by taking classes online. He finished his degree after I had already started undergrad. I was the first person in my family to go to college in the traditional sense. My undergrad recognized me as first gen but I realize some institutions may have much stricter definitions. While my dad never "attended college" he did technically beat me to the degree. Should I just answer "no" to avoid the confusion?

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Sunday, Feb 24 2019

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RC Drilling Method

I have until June to improve from a -6 average on RC to -2. I've only just now discovered the question bank on 7sage and am thinking about using it to drill RC. I figured the best approach is to simply pick the earliest test range 1-16 and start with the medium passages and work my way up to the hardest passages. Then repeat with the next test range. I feel like if I were to incorporate JY's explanations and writing out low res summaries for each passage. I figure with this approach improvement is bound to happen. Has anyone tried something similar?

So I'm kinda stressing out. I have until the November test to get my average above 170 and my actual PT score isn't budging. For reference, PT 68 had my highest BR thus far (177) but I still only managed a 165 timed. The LG section for this PT was very unconventional and I went -7. (I was spinning my tires on that last game). I was able to do the section -0 with ease once the clock was out of the equation. Lots of lessons to be learned there but I'm clearly struggling with time management/making mistakes under pressure.

At this point, what's the best use of my time? I really don't want to submit apps with anything less than a 168 so I'm starting to feel the pressure.

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Friday, Nov 22 2019

I’d say good luck but you won’t need it!

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Tuesday, May 21 2019

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I get tired around 1pm.

Does anyone else have this problem? Early morning PTs were no issue but since June is in the afternoon, I started taking them around that time and have noticed that's usually when my brain feels like shutting down. Maybe its because of lunch? Maybe it's because I tend to wake up early. I dunno but has anyone figured out how to overcome this themselves? I'm thinking about eating an early and light lunch or taking a power nap/meditating before the test might help but haven't tried that.

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Thursday, Sep 20 2018

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Doing PTs after full day of work

Quick question for all you full-time working and part-time studying 7sagers. Do you think it's smart to take PTs after a full day's work? The LSAT is administered in the morning so I imagine it's best to get into the habit of taking timed practice tests in the AM. but for those of us who work full time, that limits us to 1 test a week rather than 2.

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Friday, Oct 18 2019

I live in Georgia, went to Emory for undergrad. If you’re looking to practice in GA then UGA is a really great choice. It seems they really dominate the market here since a lot of Emory alum go out of state. Georgia state has a really strong network in Atlanta.

I'm reaaally struggling with the idea of balancing Applications and studying. For those of us testing in November, I figured we want to get our apps in asap once our scores come back. But I'm leaning toward waiting to do my apps until after I take the test because I've read the admissions centers are closed for holidays anyways so it makes no sense to apply in the middle/end of December. That would give me about a month and a half to complete all my apps. Is that enough time for a solid application?

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Tuesday, Oct 15 2019

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@ so proud of you and glad we've become pals :)

Same here! Good luck on the 28th!

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Monday, Oct 15 2018

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LG problems with a month left.

Never thought I'd still be struggling with LG but here I am with one month left and I still average -5 on LG. I know the one month left posts are common and probably repetitive but I feel like i'm so close yet so far away. My average is only 5 points below my target score and I know going -1 or -0 on LG would be enough to get me comfortably into the high 160s. Am I wasting my time redoing games and trying to foolproof them? I've foolproofed before and saw some improvement but whenever I'm doing the timed test I typically bomb 1 game. As soon as I realize I missed something or and having difficulty with a game my brain just shuts off and I panic. This doesn't happen with any other section. Speed is also still a problem. If I do easy games in under 5 mins I tend to miss a questions due to overconfidence.

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Tuesday, Oct 15 2019

Thanks for this! And congrats on making it this far without a mountain of debt!!!

If you could go back and approach landing a public interest opportunity differently, what would you do? Do you feel like you used all of Michigan’s resources for students interested in pursuing public interest work?

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

Totally depends on how you're feeling about dedicating the time and energy. I could definitely retake in November. Might even improve a bit, but I'm checked out mentally so it's just not worth it for me.

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

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Congrats!!! Really happy for you and wishing you the best with your applications

You too bro! Have you already finished applying?

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

Thats huge!!!

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

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Congrats! Very happy to hear this.

Thank you! And thank you for all your LG help.

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

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WHAT??? A FLOWER SHOP SURVIVOR??? GRATS!

Lmaooo nah Flowers still wrecked me. But LR came in clutch.

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

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After weeks of worrying that I got worse than -10 on LG, I got -7. I can deal with that. My worst section ended up being RC at -8, including missing 4 of the last 6 questions. Ugh. Can somebody remind me what the last passage was about?

I think it was about environmental law?

Oh yeah I think that’s right! Combination of test fatigue and difficult passage I suppose

Yeah I thought it was the hardest passage. RC was also my last section so I was feeling it too.

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

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After weeks of worrying that I got worse than -10 on LG, I got -7. I can deal with that. My worst section ended up being RC at -8, including missing 4 of the last 6 questions. Ugh. Can somebody remind me what the last passage was about?

I think it was about environmental law?

I always look forward to the thank you posts from everyone who scored 170+ after each test cycle. This isn't that post. lol. I actually did better on this September test than I expected but I still didn't hit the coveted 170. I was disappointed for a brief moment but then I remembered where I started. I remembered what I thought was possible and I've already exceeded all of those expectations. I'm not a particularly good standardized test taker. I've had to overcome serious testing anxiety and commit to studying for this test while working full time. So for anyone disappointed that they fell short of their dream score, just remember the score really isn't everything. In my opinion, the journey is much more important. This September test was brutal, but there's a lesson to learn. Even if you think you bombed a section (shit, even if you KNOW you bombed a section) you owe it to yourself to finish strong and take the rest of the test one question at a time.

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

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Good deal. Mine was slightly lower than expected :-(

Uggggh. Don’t know what to do now.

Happy to help you make a decision if you want. Just shoot me a message if you need to bounce ideas off of someone.

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

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How's everyone feeling about this score release?

Definitely checking reddit for the curve before I check my own results 😂 is like to be let down gently.

I think it's a -13.

Yeah it is. Thank god. My score was a little better than I expected.

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

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How's everyone feeling about this score release?

Definitely checking reddit for the curve before I check my own results 😂 is like to be let down gently.

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Monday, Oct 14 2019

In the past I got mine around 9-10am eastern time. It’ll be in your LSAC account before you get an email.

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Tuesday, Nov 13 2018

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Stupid Mistakes in Logic Games

Hey everyone!

So I'm writing for the first time in 4 days and am trying to do what I can to make sure I don't bomb my logic games section. I certainly haven't fully mastered LG because I either score -1 or around -6. When I score -6 the bulk of those questions are from one game. In Blind review I can always do the game I screwed up without any difficulties so something else is causing this. I think it's mental or maybe I rush games that I can take 12 minutes on.

My plan is to just keep foolproofing and do the games that gave me the most trouble in the past. I'm not doing full pts or anything so I don't think I'd burnout at all.

Is it foolish to think I can pull off a great LG section on test day?

I've always assumed that the actual application process itself isn't all that bad. But for time management purposes I need to know what I should expect. I already have LORs, my transcript, and my personal statement finished. How long does the rest of it all take? If you're blanketing the t-14 for example, wouldn't most of the applications be roughly the similar other than why X essays?

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Thursday, Oct 11 2018

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RC Author Inference questions

Is there anyone out there who was able to defeat these Author Inference questions? These consistently make up about half of my missed RC questions and I have no idea how to approach them and why they're so hard for me. #help

I’m seeking some advice from anyone whos underperformed on their first take.

I scored a 160 which is 5 points below my average on my November take. I’ve decided to sit out this cycle and focus on getting my score up as high as possible for the next cycle. Should I go through the CC again considering I was BRing in the 172-175 range before I wrote in Nov?

I also noticed I performed slightly worse as the test went on. My 5th section was LR and I went -8. My LR average on PTs is -3. Was there potentially some fatigue at play here? I never practiced 5 section PTs.

I also wasn’t incredibly healthy going into the test. Had lost about 10 pounds from stress and lack of eating. This is something I’m going to work on while studying in the future.

Thanks!

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Wednesday, Oct 09 2019

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I went ahead and signed up for November just because I have the free take from my July Cancel. But I’m focused on polishing my personal and diversity statement. I’m pretty much on my final draft for my PS and still need to have clean up my DS a tiny bit. I’ve also started doing research specifically for why x essays. It’s more work than I expected. Letters of rec have been done for a long time now so I think I’ll be able to apply in October unless September went worse than expected.

@ I'm sure you did great! I think I saw somewhere on another forum that you think you broke 170 for Sept?

Haha nah I wish! I’m pretty confident It’ll be mid to high 160s. 170 is most likely out of reach though. I’m ok with that. Even a 165 would be an 18 point improvement for me.

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Tuesday, Jan 08 2019

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LSAT Trainer worth it?

Is it pointless to purchase the LSAT Trainer if you already have ultimate+ and access to all the drilling material 7Sage has to offer? I'm retaking this year and one aspect of my studies I want to change is focusing more on drills.

Anyone have strategies for RC anxiety? I was averaging around -4 for months until today when I went -12 on PT 79. I noticed my anxiety was through the roof by the end of the section and what worries me is that I didn't really notice until after the section was over. I knew I spent too much time on a pretty easy opening passage and I think I let that get to me. For some reason this seems to only happen with RC. I went -1 and -0 on LR that same test so I know I wasn't just "having a bad day". I'm thinking maybe because I usually finish the other sections with some time to spare, I'm not stressing out about the time crunch. But the amount of time we're supposed to spend on easy passages vs hard ones still seems so vague to me.

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Wednesday, Dec 05 2018

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Seat Deposit Fees. What are they?

Hey guys, applying to law school is really expensive. More expensive than I realized. The LSAC CAS fee really through me for a loop and with Christmas around the corner I'm sure other were also crushed by all these fees. I recently saw someone mention Seat deposit fees on a reddit thread and I'm curious if anyone can clarify what these are and if this is something I need to consider when crunching numbers.

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Saturday, Jan 04 2020

There are a few schools where GPA does seem to matter more than it does at similarly ranked schools. Stanford and Berkeley, for example.

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Wednesday, Apr 03 2019

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Motivation post for any doubters

After over a year of prep, I finally broke into the 170s on my PTs! My diagnostic was a 147 and for a very long time I was convinced a 170 was well beyond my reach. While PT scores don't necessarily predict how well you'll do on the real thing, breaking a plateau I've been sitting at for months is huge for me. These plateaus have a way of tricking you into believing you have reached your LSAT potential. But this test really does reward patience and methodical blind review. My journey is far from over but thanks to 7Sage and its wonderful community I already accomplished something I once assumed was impossible.

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Thursday, Jan 02 2020

Absolutely write a diversity statement. Your experiences as a refugee are a part of who you are and your perspective will definitely add to the diversity of any schools student body.

I'm gearing up to start incorporating old material into my prep. Since retake PT scores really can't tell you much, I was thinking about simply breaking down my old material by sections I struggled with in the past. For example, instead of retaking a whole PT, I'd take 4 LR sections I struggled with from various PTs and simply retake those. I'm thinking that would bring the most value out of old material.

Anyone else do this? Or anyone think retaking full-length PTs is necessary if you're like me and still have about 10 fresh tests left.

At least once or twice during a PT I'll catch myself losing interest or feeling tired. I'm sure I'm not the only one who runs into this issue. Are there any techniques or tricks that can help re-energize you mid section? I know sometimes changing my posture helps. In undergrad I would to raise my hand and speak if I found myself getting tired. That seemed to help so perhaps quietly reading the stimulus under your breath can achieve a similar result. Yawning is also something that seems to positively affect alertness and puts you in a more relaxed state. I'd love to hear how you all stay alert!

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