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Sunday, Sep 17 2017

penn. I'm a prestige whore with a shitty gpa

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Monday, Aug 14 2017

You need to be flexible with this. There is no answer. It would be foolish to subscribe to reading the stem first on every question no matter what or else reading the stimulus first on every question no matter what. I can assure you that these methodological tweaks are not the secret to some new-found amazing score. You need to spend 80 hours doing LR questions, and then develop your own sense of when to read the stimulus/stem first.

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Monday, Aug 14 2017

You're not supposed to worry about keeping previous sections "fresh" during your initial training phases. You're worried about LR when you're supposed to be worried about LG. After you have mastered each section individually, then you can start taking entire PTs and trying to master all the sections together. Don't get ahead of yourself. This is supposed to be many months, hundreds of hours, of studying. There is plenty of time.

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Monday, Aug 14 2017

Do more LR questions. If you cannot form the answer on about half of them, then you simply have not done enough of them.

You are too focused on the trees, too focused on the methodology, and you are overthinking it. You need to just practice and learn for learning's sake and stop worrying about the "way" or "how." There is no secret methodology to creating an answer, you just have to be very familiar with the questions. Forming an answer immediately after reading the stem is more about instinct and history with the questions than it is about knowing a method of doing so.

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Monday, Aug 14 2017

Well, while people might suggest exercising in order to increase your brain's endurance, that is not alone enough. Your brain is its own muscle. Exercising is important for many things, but if you want to build your brain's endurance you have to focus on training it in ways that going on runs and lifting weights is not going to address. Diet is an important first step. You cannot your best after eating a ton of pizza and hot wings. You also need to learn how to let your brain rest when you are not studying so that it has stamina for while you are studying. Do not spend any time outside of studying the LSAT that drains your brain. Do not play chess, do not argue with friends, do not stay up all night, etc. Every moment that your brain is in peak shape, study for the LSAT. Outside of that, let it rest. You have to learn how to manage your brain's energy levels. It might take many months to develop a lifestyle around this.

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Monday, Aug 14 2017

Honestly, checking the time totally psyches me out, no matter how far ahead I am. I can check the time at question 20 and be only 18 minutes in and still get psyched out. I refuse to look at the time until I am finished with the section, then I check to see how many minutes of review I have. My logic is that it is best to answer the questions I spend time on to the best of my ability than to answer every question and get 5 wrong because I was distracted by time. As you get better, you will always have time left over in the end, anyway.

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Monday, Aug 14 2017

Sadly, I don't have a team. I miss 1-3 consistently in every section, now. I guess LR is my easiest section. RC is second, because it's the section I get -0 on the least often. LG is kind of tied with RC. While I think it is usually the easiest section, every 5 tests or so I can get kind of screwed by a surprising LG question. They are really harmful to high scores if you overlook a single important detail, much more so than the other two sections. I also do not like how the skills developed for LG are pretty stupid, not real-life skills. It's like being able to fill out a NYT crossword. It does not really teach you anything.

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Monday, Aug 14 2017

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i used to be a personal trainer, best advise i can give you is daily stretching, and there are some neck strengthening exercises that help, i work in an office so i stretch every morning because my neck and back are in that awkward sitting slumped position daily. but def try to get some exercise and stretching it'll help a lot

It really is amazing what the "30 minutes a day" of exercise advice can actually do for your body. It can change your life. People do not heed this enough.

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Monday, Aug 14 2017

I have spent many years at a desk job and experimenting with yoga, pilates, and other forms of exercise. I have also suffered from neck and upper back pain. A lot of these issues are greatly reduced by the proper ergonomic equipment. As a supplement, I highly recommend this video:

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Monday, Aug 07 2017

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Yeah, it might be an outlier, but no one scores those out of luck.

Is a conjecture or educated guess, or did you actually see this in a study?

Just simple probability, I guess... I mean a 176 means you got, what, ~5 wrong or so out of 100 questions. Don't really see that being because of luck. That's not to say outlier scores don't happen, but even so, scoring a 176 timed requires great skill.

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Yeah, it might be an outlier, but no one scores those out of luck.

Is a conjecture or educated guess, or did you actually see this in a study?

Just simple probability, I guess... I mean a 176 means you got, what, ~5 wrong or so out of 100 questions. Don't really see that being because of luck. That's not to say outlier scores don't happen, but even so, scoring a 176 timed requires great skill.

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Yeah, it might be an outlier, but no one scores those out of luck.

Is a conjecture or educated guess, or did you actually see this in a study?

Just simple probability, I guess... I mean a 176 means you got, what, ~5 wrong or so out of 100 questions. Don't really see that being because of luck. That's not to say outlier scores don't happen, but even so, scoring a 176 timed requires great skill.

It is certainly possible that one can get a 176 by having the skill to get, say, a 172 and just having a lucky test or a good day. My average was a 172 for a while and I had gotten a unicorn 178 as an outlier and that's just how it can go. When someone makes an outlying 11 point gain, you cannot exclude the possibility of luck playing its part in 1–6 of those questions. So, to reiterate, I think we can both agree that what happened for the OP was most likely some (possibly equal) combination of both luck and improvement. And I think we can both agree that if either of us implied that this one outlier was probably mostly luck or probably mostly improvement, then we were probably talking out of our ***.

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Monday, Aug 07 2017

For example, if it is expected that 8 weakening questions would appear on any given exam, and that my success rate in the past with this type of question is 75%, then the priority level would be calculated as 2. Meaning that my failure rate (25%, or 0.25) is multiplied by the number of expected questions (8) to calculate a priority of 2 (0.25*8).

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I have a hunch that the priority value, be it 0.6, 1.2, etc., is a numerical representation that reflects the expected number of problems of whatever type that you would miss on an upcoming exam. Is this correct?

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Sunday, Aug 06 2017

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Hi everyone,

I hope everyone had a great weekend. I wanted to post to get some advice from all of you, especially those who have managed studying and working full-time at the same time.

To give a little background, I currently work at a job that I've been at for a little more than a year. Unfortunately, I work in consulting and my hours are not always necessarily the typical 9-5PM. There are times when I get out at 7-8. On really bad days, I get out even later (although this hasn't happened recently). At this time, I'm not sure quitting my job to study is an option because financially, that may not be feasible. I am planning on taking the September LSAT (my third try) and I'm feeling completely overwhelmed. I'm trying my best to maintain both studying and work, but it's hard to put full effort into either. I've been getting a lot of crap from my bosses about how I haven't been communicative enough or proactive enough. At the same time, my scores don't seem to be improving too much (in fact, they seem to be going down). I was scoring in the 170s before the June test, but now my scores are back down to the 167-169 range.. Ideally, I'd REALLY like to take the September test just because I'm planning on applying this year and because the LSAT has already taken up so much of my time.

For those who have gone through this before (and for anyone else who's been overwhelmed by this test), how do you handle this? Any advice on how I should approach this or anything from your own experiences you think would help?

Thanks all for reading this long message!!

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Wednesday, Aug 02 2017

At least I learned JY thinks his dog having increased chances of arthritis is just a means to him getting a superdog : P

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Wednesday, Aug 02 2017

I thought that saying you should not increase chances of clogged arteries just before undergoing a de-clogging is irrelevant—you're getting your arteries unclogged, clog them up while you still can! The answer is like saying you should brush your teeth the day you go to the dentist—you'll leave the dentist with the same teeth as someone who did not brush their teeth, so why brush your teeth? I think this is the best answer, but I thought the question was harder than 3/5.

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Tuesday, Aug 01 2017

@ said:

Yeah, it might be an outlier, but no one scores those out of luck.

Is a conjecture or educated guess, or did you actually see this in a study?

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Tuesday, Aug 01 2017

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@ Ha, well If I discover the magic formula to RC success I'll be sure to share it! But i wouldn't hold your breath!

Is it just me, or does taking previously BRed PTs again under timed conditions seem to make you a better annotator? When I recently did this, since I had already BRed the RC passages, I annotated them in a tailored way, and that seemed to carry over toward the annotations I made in the next PT I took . . . via "muscle memory"? I might just be making this up : )

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Monday, Jul 31 2017

Either you got lucky or something clicked and you're doing great. Don't be discourage about the former if it happens. Good luck! PS: I had a normal score for 38.

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Monday, Jul 31 2017

You and I basically make the same scores and only struggle with RC. Wish I could help myself, much less you : )

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Monday, Jul 31 2017

FWIW, I had about a dozen scores above 170 before blind reviewing at all, and when I started blind reviewing (with a method thorougher than what is taught on 7sage), my scores slowly and consistently fell at first and then slowly and consistently rebounded. I like to think my ceiling has been raised, since I am developing my score now on something more concrete than intuition.

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Monday, Jul 17 2017

There is no easy answer. To make things worse, for me, escaping the 170 plateau had nothing to do with knowledge. I was just being too passive a test taker, and overnight I determined that I would try tackling my PTs with a different "mindset," and my scores immediately soared. Sorry. This test is like a relationship. No one can give you advice at this level without intimately knowing your background with the LSAT, in my opinion. And mostly, depending on your view of how useful relationship advice can be, this needs to be worked out between you and your PTs.

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Monday, Jun 26 2017

Actually, I have had a similar problem. One recent practice test I scored a -1, -1, -2 on LG, LR, LR. Then on RC I missed 7. However, 5 of those were simply questions I could not get to. I can share how I overcame that timing issue, but if you are completing the RC section and missing that many questions, I do not think my advice would be perfect. I had a different problem. Be sure to use 7Sage to log your scores and over time see if you are missing certain types of RC questions much more frequently!

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