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astakhovskaya772
Wednesday, Apr 30 2014

You definitely need to take care of your kid first of all. LSAT can wait. You need to have peace of mind and confidence to get a good score. I withdrew in February and forfeited the fee, but I don't regret it.

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astakhovskaya772
Wednesday, Apr 30 2014

You need to see what specific LR questions give you trouble and drill them.

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Thursday, Mar 27 2014

astakhovskaya772

What is your goal score?

Hi guys,

I am just wondering what scores people here shoot for? I wonder if an average person can get into 90 percentile by virtue of hard work. Or is 170+ goal is mostly for someone with a couple of Master's degrees or a Ph.D.?

I know someone who got 170 on LSAT and got her tuition waived by UPenn. It really inspired me to get the highest score possible. I just don't know what goal is realistic.

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Friday, Apr 25 2014

Do you know all the rules of inferences by heart? It gets pretty easy when you know them like the multiplication table. I've noticed that most in/out games have a Not A then B rule, which gives you three options, A and not B, B and not A or both A and B. So, you can make three boards and make inferences for each one. Once you proceed to the questions, a lot of the answers can be found on your boards. However, not all games have that rule. Like today I was doing preptest 70, and the second game was like that, and was more time consuming.

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Sunday, May 25 2014

Those type of questions are usually directed at testing if you understand that numbers and % need to be viewed in a bigger context to qualify as adequate evidence for a conclusion. For instance, profit from sales of product A increased 25% and from sales of product B it increased 50%, so more profit was made on product B was then on product A. Those numbers sort of trap your mind to buy the argument. However, as it is the evidence is not sufficient, since you need to know much more than that to make the conclusion. So, on these type of questions, you really don't need to know math that much, just to understand the concept that % and numbers need to be put in a bigger context to be reliable.

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astakhovskaya772
Thursday, Apr 24 2014

I was thinking about taking the test in September too, but I feel that I won't be able to take LSAT prep for much longer. My whole life is affected right now, I cannot work, spend much time with my family, or even think much about anything other then planktons, extinction of dinosaurs or rate of accidents on highways :)) I give bows to those who can take it for longer than about six months.

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Tuesday, Apr 22 2014

I think it is good to prove why every wrong answer is wrong for beginner and intermediate level of LSAT preparation. But, at some point you have to let go of this method and rely on your intuition, since at some point, what you have learnt should become intuitive. You just need to make a conscious effort to be more confident in choosing an answer choice.

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Thursday, May 22 2014

Jonathan, I would do ANY tricks to improve my score, even doing PTs standing upside down :)) This method just really helps me with the trap answer choices. If I read a trap answer choice first, then my judgement becomes biased, and I cannot see the correct answer. I have noticed, that most of the time the trap answer choice is above the correct answer choice, so it helps to read the correct answer choice first to somewhat cushion the impact of the trap.

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Wednesday, May 21 2014

astakhovskaya772

Reading answer choices E - A

I have tried reading answer choices E through A and think this method has helped me improve on LR. First of all, most of the time, the trap answer choice precede the correct answer choice, since the test makers know that people normally read A- E. Also, a lot of difficult questions, where you hardly understand the stimulus, will also have the correct answer choice somewhere towards the bottom to make sure you slow down. Has anyone else tried this and found it helpful?

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Monday, May 19 2014

If you get there too early, you can just walk around the campus and look at the trees and the sky, and kind of meditate. That should help release the stress before the test. The testing center is around 10 min from my house, and I am planning to get there 30-40 minutes before the test. I just don't want to be late!

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Sunday, May 18 2014

That's December 2006 test. I just could not understand what that argument was about. The language is so convoluted, and the subject so abstract. What do you do when something like this comes up? Do you need to come up with a hypothetical scenario to understand what they are talking about?

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Thursday, Apr 17 2014

Al[^-^]: Not necessarily in that order :)

E.T.90066-1: Dark chocolate is supposed to be good for the brain function and the mood, just as fish oil. I have noticed huge difference in the progress with studying for LSAT when I eat some dark chocolate before I sit down to study.

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astakhovskaya772
Saturday, May 17 2014

Powerscore website has downloadable preptests 1-71

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astakhovskaya772
Wednesday, Apr 16 2014

Exercise, dark chocolate before studying and fish oil daily should help.

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Friday, May 16 2014

When I realize that 180 score is so far away...

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astakhovskaya772
Friday, May 16 2014

Some PTs are more difficult then others, especially older ones. Maybe that could be the reason.

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astakhovskaya772
Tuesday, Apr 15 2014

To improve on LR, I don't think it is enough just to keep practicing preptests. You need to apply your knowledge of logic to the tests, rather than learn logic from them. Here is a useful link I found http://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/tvs.html

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astakhovskaya772
Tuesday, Apr 15 2014

The only way to improve on RC for me was to scan questions before reading the stimulus and separating general ones from specific. I highlight the key word/phrase in the specific question and as I read the stimulus, I answer those questions. This way, by the time I am done reading the stimulus, 30-50% of the questions are already answered.

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astakhovskaya772
Wednesday, May 14 2014

Very good question. I've read somewhere that any argument asserting casual relationship is inherently flawed from philosophical viewpoint.

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Tuesday, May 13 2014

I was also having a problem of not seeing much improvement despite doing tremendous amount of practice. One day, I just told myself that I needed to review my methods. I started to do deep analysis of each question on LR and RC, trying to understand the underlying concepts. Then, finally I started to see progress. I would compare preparing for LSAT to learning a foreign language. You need to understand and memorize the rules of grammar, understand the cultural context, and practice the vocabulary everyday to learn it successfully. So is LSAT, you need to understand the rules of logic, the rules of argument, causation, conditionality, etc. Then you need to practice them every day to commit them to memory. It is tremendous amount of work, for sure, but the good news is that you can improve.

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Tuesday, Jun 10 2014

It is over!!!

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Sunday, Jun 08 2014

I feel right now exactly like when you get on a roller coaster, they buckle you in, and just before it sets off, you ask yourself, why did I get myself into this??

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Saturday, Jun 07 2014

At which point are you supposed to give up on a question? You still need to invest some time to read it, at least.

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Saturday, Jun 07 2014

Thank you guys. Being a paralegal, questions involving legal issues make me think about what happens in real life. I forget, I cannot do it. You are right that if you look just at the information in the stimulus, and solve this question technically, it is easy to see why answer choice E is correct.

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Saturday, Jun 07 2014

astakhovskaya772

Least favorite LR question

This question really bothers me. I do not understand it. PT 68-part 2, question 21. This is a disagree question about why law firm decided to settle a case instead of going to trial. Do we need to assume that jury/judge would not award more than the legal fees if the case went to trial? Why are they talking only about settlement and not judgement?

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astakhovskaya772
Saturday, Jun 07 2014

Answer D is wrong since the information used in it is not used as a premise to support the conclusion. The stuff about years of medical training is just background information. The gap is between completing evaluation program and being competent, and answer choice C fills that gap.

I don't think you should go into the deep meaning of words in conditional logic questions. Just look for the premise that supports the conclusion and draw a diagram.

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Monday, Apr 07 2014

astakhovskaya772

Logic games challenge

After practicing logic games for about 4 months, my biggest challenge is concentration. I would sometimes miss a rule or would mix up the sequence of variables. Is it common? I've started to think that maybe I have ADD. Is there any rule of thumb to make sure that you don't make little mistake that mess up the whole game?

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astakhovskaya772
Thursday, Jun 05 2014

Some knowledge of cognitive biases, how to make a proper argument, and knowing as many logical fallacies as possible helped me improve on LR. Also, drilling causation questions, as well as questions involving numbers and % helped a lot.

When reading RC passages I look at them as compare and contrast essays, as well as use the "scales" to weigh the evidence for and against an opinion. This method helps me sort out the dense information contained in the passages.

With LG, it is nothing but practice. It took me about 6 months to be able to complete this section on time, although I still cannot always do it.

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Sunday, May 04 2014

astakhovskaya772

Improving on LR tips

Hi guys,

June 2014 LSAT test is a month away, and many of us probably still need to improve on all of the three LSAT sections. I have noticed from reading the recent discussions that most people are struggling with LR, especially with completing it on time. I think that maybe we should share our tips on how to improve on this section to help each other do better on the upcoming test (or later tests for those who are not taking June 2014 test).

For, instance what I have learnt after struggling with this section is that there are a lot of questions which talk about some sort of experiment. Those are usually Weakening/Strengething/Resolve Paradox questions. So, to answer these type of questions faster, it is important to know how proper experiment is to be conducted, especially, keeping things other than the thing being measured similar/same. The correct answer choice would often be the one that would address the issue of other things being equal/not equal depending on the type of question. Sometimes, they would specifically say in the stimulus that the experiment was held under similar conditions, but include an incorrect answer choice which would say that the conditions were different.

So, we you guys can make some input on how things you need to know to go through LR faster, I think it would help at least some of us improve on it.

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astakhovskaya772
Sunday, Jun 01 2014

In assumption questions, most of the time, the gap is between the predicate of the conclusion and a premise. For example, It will rain tonight because the sky is overcast. Here the gap is between "will rain" and "the sky is overcast." The sufficient assumption is "It has always rained when the sky is overcast," since if this is true, then the conclusion follows. Necessary assumption will be "It has sometimes rained when the sky is overcast," since if this is not true (negated), the conclusion will not follow. Sufficient assumption gives us certainty about what will follow, and hence it will usually contain words like always, never, constantly, etc.

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