Hello all,

I've completed my PS but have a problem. When I double space the essay manually, I get around 900 words and can fit everything I want to say so badly in the two pages i am given. But when I use the double space function on microsoft word, it shoots me to 2 full pages and a paragraph in the third page. Im trying to cut things out that might be a little redundant but Im hardly getting 700 words and dont think this is appropriate.

Can I get by just double spacing manually?

Before taking my test in February, I went with the route where I drew out most/all possible combinations of a game before solving it and it DOES make the questions easy to solve...

However, recently, as I've been studying for the June exam, I've noticed that when I just graph out the bare minimum of where things go and the rules, I find myself finishing the games much quicker... It might take me a little more per question to graph possible solutions to a certain scenario, but i find it more beneficial that not having to spend time graphing scenarios (before answering questions) allows me time to brute force certain questions if needed. Afterall, filling out the game in like 3-6 different outcomes is a kind of brute forcing itself right?

What do you guys think... is my method of minimal planning before answering questions okay? Or is it a rule of thumb/ better in the long run to pre-fill as many as I can in a decent amount of time?

I feel like what I'm doing now is sort of a noob method....but idk, i think its working. Anyone else?

Can I ask what the rules of the game were? I'm trying to recreate the game and do it and see if I got a question right/wrong. No answers, no inferences, just what was stated?

Thx.

I'm writing my personal statement and I talk about my fathers business in the auto industry and how I've grown up helping him and learning from him and working by his side..and using this knowledge and his connections to start my own business.

I put it in a way that talks about how I can be a GOOD and hard working student and how these things have prepared me for my future endeavors, but it doesn't really answer the "WHY" aspect. I want to shoulder the weight my dad carries and I love thinking and reasoning and debating and writing (I actually do, I'm not just saying it to sound law oriented). I want to be paid to think and let the pen be my sword (is that how the saying goes?).

But so what? Why not write a book , ya know? Lol. My reasons for going to law school aren't based on really concrete things but more so these abstract ideas of representing what I think is the symbol of higher thinking in human beings.

What should I avoid doing in talking about "why law"?

Thank you guys, please ignore the messy and terrible writing here I promise my PS is better! If you'd like

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This test really confirmed for me that the only thing that will surprise me or really blind side me is the stuff I didn't study for. No matter how well I did on this test, I know that I didn't do as well as I could have done on RC and I'm confident that any problem in my score will be a result of RC.

Knowing this, I urge all of us to really Focus less on stressing out and more on practicing for a possible retake in September. There is absolutely no reason that we shouldn't be able to raise our scores especially by studying the parts of the LSAT we've been neglecting. By being well versed in each section, we have a safety cushion where we can afford to slip up a point or two a section and score very high. But even if we're doing well on every section but, say RC, then chances are that we make a few mistakes here and there on other sections combined, and come across a hard RC and go -8. Now you better hope that the rest of the test you make only two or so mistakes which is really tough...

We didn't get unlucky with this test. The LG and LR were definitely easy compared to some other PTS. The LG wash breeze and I'm sure we've seen tougher LR. the RC was the hardest ever. Even if it were easier, then the rest of the test would have been balanced accordingly. So the point is to be so good at each section that you can rest your score on the hardest section. If I could do one thing differently that I also wanted to do for the June LSAT which I didn't, it's to start studying now so if I need to retake I'm ahead and if I don't then big deal since my mind was at ease.

Good luck guys, don't be afraid to retake. We all know deep down what LSAT skills we could work on. It's the questions you wish you don't see on your test. Those r the ones to really practice.

Is mylsninfo up to date and the most accurate? And how can I use it so that I don't have to set a range of scores ...

Thanks!

Hello sagers,

I want to make sure my application is perfect and idk if it would be a good idea to , I guess, pay someone to help me make sure it's solid, that I'm applying at the correct time and all, or if I need to retake, etc. Does 7sage offer these services? If not, is it against the rules here to offer to pay someone who is experienced to help?

My GPA is a 3.25, LSAT is a 169 (third take). I want a shot at USC UCLA and UCI (last choice). I was thinking I either apply now to all, or apply to UCI and retake for the others.

Thanks

Hey guys. So I just got my score, hit a 169 I'm pissed I missed one extra question and a 170 :/ but also ecstatic. My scores have been a 157, 159, 169. My GPA is 3.25.

I want in at UCI, which I think I'm golden for. I also want USC which I'm sure I have a higher chance of not getting accepted...right? Is USC an option at this point?

Thanks

Apparently if you start a fee waiver application it puts your account on hold until you finish it which means that you don't get your score until it is resolved. I got the hold removed today around 2pm PST, is it possible my score comes in today by 5? Or am I going to get it tomorrow?

I feel like the guy who came to the party-before-Armageddon on the day after.

Hi all. So I took pt 43 and got a 172 yesterday. Today I did blind review, and was up to a 176. Idk if it's technically blind review , I just took the test and redid it with more time and finished maybe around 4 hours along my start of the sopranos lol.

Now, I want to see which answers I switched over correctly and incorrectly and break them down into question type and practice those sections with some questions.

Is there anything you guys think I could do better here or is my process okay? And I'm really pleased with the 172 since it was my first actual PT since the June lsat and I'm doing a lot more untimed questions by section type and I think it's paying off. I'm aiming a PT a week whereas before I did like 4 PTs a week (very stupid as I've learned). but idk, I got in the 170s a couple times pting but didn't break 160 on the actual test. I basically did much lower than my PT average and I treated this studying like a full time job. Still do for September? So idk maybe I'm missing something and it was those beers all along. Jk. /rant

Thanks

Hey guys, so in reading LR question stems, I've become more attentive to the structure of the argument along side being extra careful with what is actually said. However, in assessing the arguments structure I've taken a teeny bit more time per question...I feel like this is because I attach equal importance to the content of the question.

My question is: in an effort to actually save time and not rush and miss questions, how much should I really try to understand a stems content? Should I focus less on content and more on structure? When I get lucky with LR and finish all on time, I score in the 170s where RC does most of the damage (timing is also an issue).

When I get shorted on time from LR, I score in the mid 160s....

So this advice could carry into my RC as well. I've begun to analyze structure too but I've made no adjustments in my reading of details. I am more accurate but I lose time.

I understand every question and question type, I'm literally just running out of time. I'm not being efficient. For example, Parallel question types are my favorite and I go through them quick because I know it just focuses on structure.

Wat to do?

Thanks again guys, I'm almost there, this is my final weakness and it really needs to be addressed. Last LSAT I took I had no timing issues on LR. I did relatively poorly but came to my answers using the same (although flawed at the time) methods WITHOUT really caring for argument structure.

Don't show weakness. You're ready. make sure to relax during the test if you feel yourself spazzing out. A little stress will keep you alert so don't panic if you feel your heart start to beat a little faster than normal. Fight or flight kicks in and you're going

to fight your ass off because you're no chump. youve been taking tests your whole life. It's nothing. Don't scramble when the proctor tells you to start. Take an extra second, breathe, and begin. Cool as ice. You've done this before.

Do whatever it is you need to do to get back on your feet. You have a little over two months until the September test. You haven't failed completely if you can just get back on your feet quickly and try again. You know where you messed up along the way..don't spend time thinking about what went wrong outside of the question types you messed up or your strategy. It's not going to be easy, but nothing worth having is! Get on your grind.

Hello all. I've been prescribed adderall for a while now and I'm fully aware of its effects. I've studied for the LSAT with and without adderall where I'm doing much much better ON it.

I was wondering if I should also take one on the test. Or if it would be necessary.

I don't condone it's use without a need...and this is not what my question is about. I'd advise anyone who hasn't done it to definitely notttt take it on test day as I guarantee you'll royally screw yourself over.

On adderall I have no issues with timing and accuracy. I finish sections with 5 minutes left over and I'm comfortable with all the material. Without adderall, the best I can get to finishing is by rushing and skipping. I don't absorb information so readily and I miss words because I don't concentrate enough.

My preptests are great on adderall I just worry that it might not be the same test day.

I'm generally great with stimulants like coffee and energy drinks and increased stimulation never leads me to spaz out.

Hi guys,

I want to summarize some stuff in points and hope you guys can chime in and give some much appreciated suggestions!

-studied one month 6-8 hours a day for February LSAT. Went from 149-164 average.

-took February test, Spazzed out on LG and RC , my BEST sections, and missed a section each (guessed) and surprisingly did well on LR when I was doing poorly before *i was more confident though in my answer choices that I got to than I have ever been on my PTs so I guess that's a plus

-GPA is 3.26 so I need a low to mid 170 to get into USC.and a mid 160 for UCI. due to my recent mess up I think USC is definitely out and UCI is in critical condition.

-need to set backup plan in motion.

-I have certain weaknesses such as applying the flaws I see in passages of LR to answer choices, I hate inferences in LR and some smaller stuff which is awefully specific. Powerscore book didn't help me because I feel like it focuses so much more on structure than content. Very basic and generalized I was so disappointed. It didn't help me to be a better critical thinker like JYs videos on say LG did.

-I need a more tailor made approach, I need to read and retain better, and I need to up my vocab as well lol. And my timing needs to definitely improve.

-if you guys think it's possible to get to the low to mid 170s in the June or September LSAT, then I will start studying in about two weeks regardless of how February turns out.

I broke 160 on my PTs very early on in my studying...hit a 166, then started to decline back to 161-162.

Thanks and sorry for the long post. But what do u guys recommend in terms of study guides and options given my scenario?

So if I see that an answer choice weakens or strengthens just one premise, but doesnt necessarily make the argument air tight, is this still okay?

So I've nailed logic games, I've implemented a new strategy for LR where I pay more attention to structure and ive been doing better so far, but my RC is totally screwed up. A) a lot of the time I don't get to every question, and B) most of my mistakes are from Inference and Authors Perspective questions.

I make the right answer choices during BR but I just can't seem to time myself correctly.

Should I spend more time on timed RC which would lead to less time on LR and LG review? I don't plan on doing BR for RC , I feel like LR skills translate into skills needed for RC questions. But my timing is way off. I took PT 63 and got a 167 but I missed like 5-8 questions in total, and rushed RC making stupid mistakes just to get to the next question. I feel like I can't retain enough info to be able to make inferences ...I go back and skim portions of the passage to affirm my inferences. Should I rely more on skimming and going back during questions or nailing it after the first pass?

Hello,

When answering principle questions, we want an answer that obviously doesn't violate the stimulusm, and conforms most to the text.

Is too general an answer choice bad? And in using certain words (specifically the medical advance question in the PT 40s) , can we assume that two words can mean different things or that one word can be more inclusive and cast a wider net than the way it is used in the stimulus?

So one question said that medical tests are advancing so that we can detect diseases early, but most of these diseases aren't curable yet by medicine. Then it raises an ethical dilemma.

Now the answer choice I put is "the more we learn, the more you realize how little we know".

The correct answer choice was "advances in medicine can raise ethical concerns".

If we assume that advances in medical technology/tests constitutes an advance in medicine then I understand it. But it states that we can't cure them using current medicines so can we really say medicine advanced?

It was too uncertain to me so I went with the wrong answer, the more general one. Or maybe there is another mistake in what I chose.

Thanks and GL studying !

I'm having trouble differentiating the IC from the premises and I don't like IC questions in general...if something leads to a conclusion then it makes sense that it's evidence/fact/premise. It's hard to understand what IC even does. It's like a conclusion that's not the overarching conclusion but it gives support to it.

If we have facts that are all linked to each other in a causal chain, let's say like 5 sentences/relations ,,, and these set of facts, going from one to the other, leads to an ultimate conclusion, where do we draw a line between this chain and say "okay, everything before this led up to this sentence, and this sentence directly supports the main conclusion, so this is the IC".

Is my definition or idea of it wrong? Is the IC, where it exists, a tangent conclusion or is it just the next broadest point in the argument? And I know the conclusion indicators and all but it's still tough. I feel like LSAC chooses to call some things a premise and some things an Intermediary Conclusion.

GPA is a 3.26, Feb LSAT came in at 157, 4 points below my PT... was my first take.

UCI accepts until JUNE lsat but at that point, i need an extremely good score to be competitive to be accepted before school starts lol.

So, should I apply with my 3.26 and 157 now and possibly get rejected and cant apply again this cycle?

Or do I wait until June and try to raise my score atleast 10 points. At that point, idk if 167 would be competitive for apply after june...

so idk. appreciate any ideas. thanks!

LSAT is in two weeks (little less). Having learned the hard way, please take this advice if you're grinding hard right now. Don't be sitting all day long studying from morning to night.

Before you possibly dismiss this advice because it sounds like you're being told to eat your vegetables, gather round and listen..

Get atleast like 30 minutes of some kind of exercise every day, come home and eat a clean and light meal and continue studying. Exercise and healthy eating not only has the obvious benefit of making all you sexy people look even sexier for the summer, but getting home from a workout/jog/movement, I've noticed I'm much more hyped and attentive and my brain feels like a well oiled machine.

If your practice test scores are leveling off and not going up and you're studying all day long and you just don't know why, it's because you can't study this sedentary way for the LSAT and you're not giving yourself time to reflect on the new information and give your brain a break.

On days that I bummed it and studied all day with no break no exercise and eating foods that weren't wholesome, my scores were lower than on days where I got some exercise and took breaks and ate cleaner meals. I am 100% sure that this was true in my case and by LSAT logic it obviously doesn't have to be true in all cases but give me the benefit of the doubt for a second!

You might feel okay right now and rested and your stomach is full and you're feeling warm, but I know the grind is tough. Studying for days on end and only moving from your bed to your desk, your thinking skills will get sluggish. I'm not selling you a fitness plan...I'm not a fitness guy by any means,but I think that this is how you maximize your mental capacity and agility leading up to the test and while you study. It's the second aspect of studying that MOST people completely ignore and not only ignore, but completely work against.

I was studying this wrong way leading up to my first LSAT in February. My diagnostic was in the 150s and my PT scores got to the high 160s which was my realistic goal. a few PTs went by and my scores were going down to the lower 160s where they leveled off at like 162 from the previous 167,168s I was getting. The week before the test my PT average dropped to 160 and 161 and even lower on test day to a 158. It was unimaginable. I was guessing my way (figuratively) to a 158 at my peak!!

When I started studying again, it took a week to get into the groove of things and now I'm reviewing old practice tests and realize I've made some very VERY stupid mistakes (that I didn't catch before even after reviewing)! nothing had changed except I was fresh n ready to go. The only difference now is that I took a break and study maybe 5-6 hours a day instead of 10-12 and maybe you need more or maybe you need less, but don't be afraid to take an hour or two away from studying in order to recuperate. If anything, it's actually part of studying so you're not wasting time.

we are studying what's IN the practice test book so hard that we forget to train the parts of us that are tested during the test. Just like you can play a sport like football and think you'll get better at tackling people just by repeated tackles, when in reality there are supplemental courses of action that these athletes take to assist them with it.

Or in LSAT terms, just because something (studying) contributes to an outcome (your highest possible score), it doesn't mean that it guarantees it.

Don't beat yourselves up, and please, try it for just one day and see how your studying goes the day after. We think we're grinding hard by being in our chairs all day when in reality we are being sedentary and it's messin with our potential.

Hello,

so I have a 3.28 and a 169...

USC rejected, UCLA waitlisted, and UC Irvine accepted with 90k, Loyola with 110k.

If UCLA rejects, I'm left with Uc Irvine as it is higher ranked than loyola...

Given I can make good grades and work hard (yada yada)...am I in a bad spot?

I dont have solid career goals right now but I know for sure that I dont want to graduate with 100k in debt with a 60k a year job IF that...

how likely is it that I go to UCI and crap out? Ive already waited a year and increased my LSAT by 10 points to get to where I am now and was extremely disappointed USC and UCLA didnt accept/waitlisted.

Thanks all