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Hey guys,
My stats are 174 LSAT, 3.15 GPA from top 15 university, non-URM, and decent softs. I'm preparing my applications to send sometime next week. Blanketing the top 14 (minus HYS) and adding UCLA, Vandy, USC, WUSTL, and Emory. I'm considering applying ED2 Penn -- anyone know how my chances would look?
As I've read literally everywhere, my GPA means this cycle is going to be an unpredictable one. I was wondering if anyone had any splitter success stories, or words of advice to help keep my motivation up. For those studying for the LSAT or applying right now, good luck! :smile:
Peace,
AP
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@gregoryalexanderdevine723 said:
@tylerdschreur10199 said:
Hey guys,
My stats are 174 LSAT, 3.15 GPA from top 15 university, non-URM, and decent softs. I'm preparing my applications to send sometime next week. Blanketing the top 14 (minus HYS) and adding UCLA, Vandy, USC, WUSTL, and Emory. I'm considering applying ED2 Penn -- anyone know how my chances would look?
As I've read literally everywhere, my GPA means this cycle is going to be an unpredictable one. I was wondering if anyone had any splitter success stories, or words of advice to help keep my motivation up. For those studying for the LSAT or applying right now, good luck! :smile:
Peace,
AP
I'll be straight, I've heard that this was a tough cycle. But, your LSAT is great so chances are you'll get some very decent offers. I had a 169, 3.28 and was accepted to UCI and some lower ranked schools, waitlisted at UCLA and Vandy, and rejected by USC and Penn. I didnt apply early so that may also be a factor.
my friend had a 3.8 and a 161 but was waitlisted at UCLA and UCI and rejected from USC.
I hoped that my 169 would be good enough for USC and UCLA, and I saw many acceptances on LSN with lower numbers and similar GPA, but again, these were people that possibly applied earlier or didnt report accurately.
This cycle, I feel like they were super tough on low GPAs. Maybe because of an increase in applications. Who knows. F*** em.
How are your softs, PS and LORs? The increase applications allowed law schools to be more choosy and select based on factors that they otherwise wouldnt have considered as much
@tylerdschreur10199 said:
Hey guys,
My stats are 174 LSAT, 3.15 GPA from top 15 university, non-URM, and decent softs. I'm preparing my applications to send sometime next week. Blanketing the top 14 (minus HYS) and adding UCLA, Vandy, USC, WUSTL, and Emory. I'm considering applying ED2 Penn -- anyone know how my chances would look?
As I've read literally everywhere, my GPA means this cycle is going to be an unpredictable one. I was wondering if anyone had any splitter success stories, or words of advice to help keep my motivation up. For those studying for the LSAT or applying right now, good luck! :smile:
Peace,
AP
I'll be straight, I've heard that this was a tough cycle. But, your LSAT is great so chances are you'll get some very decent offers. I had a 169, 3.28 and was accepted to UCI and some lower ranked schools, waitlisted at UCLA and Vandy, and rejected by USC and Penn. I didnt apply early so that may also be a factor.
my friend had a 3.8 and a 161 but was waitlisted at UCLA and UCI and rejected from USC.
I hoped that my 169 would be good enough for USC and UCLA, and I saw many acceptances on LSN with lower numbers and similar GPA, but again, these were people that possibly applied earlier or didnt report accurately.
This cycle, I feel like they were super tough on low GPAs. Maybe because of an increase in applications. Who knows. F*** em.
Any more splitter successes this cycle?? :)
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@adipick708 said:
From what I (briefly) saw on LSN, it appears that Cornell is rejecting (or the occasional waitlisting) everyone with a 172+ LSAT this cycle, even with GPAs of 3.75+. So my guessing is Yield protection :neutral:
That's frustrating. I really like Cornell and I wrote what I thought was a very convincing Why Cornell. Yield protection seems like such a shortsighted and detrimental strategy. Ugh
But I guess it's better than telling myself my 3.56 is too low for the t14
@uhinberg359 said:
@52467 said:
Apologies if this is a silly question. What is a splitter? Assuming it's a gap between LSAT score and GPA?
Yep it's basically an applicant whose GPA is at/below the school's 25th percentile and LSAT that's at/above the school's 75th percentile.
Got it, thanks!
@52467 said:
Apologies if this is a silly question. What is a splitter? Assuming it's a gap between LSAT score and GPA?
Yep it's basically an applicant whose GPA is at/below the school's 25th percentile and LSAT that's at/above the school's 75th percentile.
From what I (briefly) saw on LSN, it appears that Cornell is rejecting (or the occasional waitlisting) everyone with a 172+ LSAT this cycle, even with GPAs of 3.75+. So my guessing is Yield protection :neutral:
Apologies if this is a silly question. What is a splitter? Assuming it's a gap between LSAT score and GPA?
Congrats on Penn!
I looked at a lot of the data and it appears that Cornell rejects any LSAT if it doesn't come with a super-high GPA. Are they like a mini-Yale in terms of having an academic focus?
@tylerdschreur10199 said:
I applied to the whole t14, still waiting on most schools. But I'll share the responses I've gotten, as usual for a splitter (176, 3.56) very inconsistent. I've been accepted at Texas; waiting on aid info, accepted at UofM;120k scholly, waitlisted at duke, rejected by cornell.
Are you putting this info on LSN? congrats on your acceptances!
I applied to the whole t14, still waiting on most schools. But I'll share the responses I've gotten, as usual for a splitter (176, 3.56) very inconsistent. I've been accepted at Texas; waiting on aid info, accepted at UofM;120k scholly, waitlisted at duke, rejected by cornell.
@52467 said:
@45656 said:
What kind of scholarships can you get from UCLA with a 170+ LSAT and similar GPA? Do they give full-rides?
There are a few samples, but here is a list of people who applied to UCLA with LSAT 170-180 and GPA 3.0-3.2 on Law School Numbers:
http://mylsn.info/dispresults.php?sk=jz63b1&school=ucla&sort=money
Thanks for this! Reminds me that I really need to kill this September 2018 LSAT.
@45656 said:
What kind of scholarships can you get from UCLA with a 170+ LSAT and similar GPA? Do they give full-rides?
There are a few samples, but here is a list of people who applied to UCLA with LSAT 170-180 and GPA 3.0-3.2 on Law School Numbers:
http://mylsn.info/dispresults.php?sk=jz63b1&school=ucla&sort=money
What kind of scholarships can you get from UCLA with a 170+ LSAT and similar GPA? Do they give full-rides?
@45656 said:
Mannnn being a splitter sucks! I wish I could go back 10 years and kick 18 year old me in the ass....haha
Me and you both... yep, sucks.
@tylerdschreur10199 update on your cycle? i'll be a splitter applying in the future and wondering how high up I can aim
@adipick708 Yeah I ended up doing ED2. Thanks! I'm so excited.
@uhinberg359 Honestly it was a toss up between penn and nyu for my 2nd choice after columbia, but I think ED was the right move with my extreme splitter status and the increase in high scoring apps this cycle. Do you know if this means I have a 0% chance of money?
@tylerdschreur10199 said:
In at Penn! :smile:
Another one of my top choices! Where does it fall on your list of choices?
Did you end up applying ED to Penn?? AND THAT'S AMAZING, CONGRATS!!!
In at Penn! :smile:
Just commenting to bring this post back to relevance :)
Unless you mean to protect the 75% number, but even then, there are only two schools with a 75 percentile of 175 or over.
@avetyans588 said:
Also, I read an article/ blog that talked about how given the LSAT curve and the total number of high scorers the top 8 schools will accept most people with a 175 or higher score. They have to do it in order to keep their median numbers high for their rankings.
Don't really get this. No school has a median of over 173, so I don't know why 175 would be the magic number to protect medians. With regard protecting a median of 173, there's no difference between a 174 and a 180.
Mannnn being a splitter sucks! I wish I could go back 10 years and kick 18 year old me in the ass....haha