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What was your diagnostic LSAT if you have already done one and don't mind sharing that with me?
@ congratulations!! It should be an amazing feeling. What did you do different on LR and RC?
Hello fellow 7Sagers,
Are my chances of admission at a T-14 law school affected if I have multiple LSAT scores (with the 1st being mediocre)? If so, is the effect positive or negative? And to what degree?
Thank you for your thoughtful responses.
@ thank you, man!
And I actually didn't haha. My cognitive faculties were not at peak today. I think I'm getting a cold haha.
@ thanks!!! I am having troubling processing it haha.
I did Game 1, 2, and 4, respectively, before I did 3, which gave me 15 minutes to figure it out with little pressure.
Hello 7Sagers,
So I just finished grading PT 77, and scored a 180 on it. I am absolutely flabbergasted!
Hello,
Is anyone aware of LSAC having an infrequent tendency to introduce a question stem in double negatives?
Example: Instead of stating, "Which one of the following, if true, would weaken the argument?" They otherwise state, "Each of the following, if true, does not weaken the argument EXCEPT?"
Thank you.
I was thinking that they may have done it for standardization purposes.
I just spoke to a person at LSAC, and she said, "the 180 is no longer allowed because of the start/stop function."
Do you guys have an idea as to why that's a bad thing?
Hello fellow 7sagers,
There is no right or wrong answer to the question at hand. I know 7Sage's method is to read the question stem first. However, I am curious to hear from individuals who have tried "both" approaches. Which made your task of comprehending the stimulus and answering the question easier?
Thank you in advance.
My brothers and sisters of the LSAT (sounds so corny lol),
I understand that many of you are anxiously awaiting your LSAT score; however, I have a question for you. Hopefully, it'll divert you from anxiety for a few minutes haha. On average, how do you interpret the word "OFTEN" in a logical reasoning stimulus?
Would you say if falls within the realm of "many" or "most"?
Thank you all.
If I was to encounter such a statement on a test, I would just keep them separate without the "or". That's just my personal preference though. So I'd just write the following:
P ----> /C
K ---> /C.
However, If P or K, then /C would also do the trick. So it's up to you to choose how to diagram them. Just make sure you do not put an "AND" in the sufficient condition.
@ Can you elaborate on your question because your original statement did not have an inclusive or. Neither P nor K are cute translates as the following in English: P is not cute And K is not cute. Maybe I'm missing something, so tell me more.
The entities should remain separate for the following reason: P+K ----> /C indicates that they are not cute when combined. But the original statement said that neither P nor K are cute, which means each entity on its own is not cute. In your example, the sentence became as the following: if P and K, then not cute. I hope this makes sense.
Same reasoning applies to your second scenario.
@ I just took this test yesterday, so I think my reflection is kind of good on it still. I thought the LR sections were pretty standard. The RC had probably one tough passage (well at least I thought it was tough). I think it was the 3rd one, which discussed equipoise in medical research. LG was standard until the 4th game. That game needed some mental gymnastics haha.
And what a coincidence, I felt a little sluggish on this test as well, but I don't believe it was the test.
Greetings everyone,
I have been studying for the LSAT since May 19th. I was studying an average of 6-8 hours a day the first two months of my Prep (rarely taking a break day). Every since mid-July, I have been studying an average of 5-7 hours a day. I have been consistently scoring in the high 160s with a couple 170s. However, in the past 10-14 days, I have been experiencing fatigue, and I believe it is very much affecting my score because during review I spot my mistakes easily. I was just taking Preptest 61, and even though I still managed to score a 167, I felt a very strong mental fog throughout the test. I really need good advice on how to overcome my fatigue and burnout, so I could regain my motivation and continue preparing for the September test.
Hello folks,
Why do the pages look unclear when I print them? Am I doing something wrong?
@ The key to scoring 174 and above is mastering the logic of the exam, and having an effective approach that you can execute fluidly on every section of the exam. The skills to solving the questions on the test must become second nature to you (i.e. you no longer have to pause and think about what you're ought to do, but your arsenal is ready upon command).
@ Hahahahaha! absolutely hilarious.
@ (A) does not weaken the argument in the parallel, nor in the original. The argument states that the jellyfish uses confusion as a method of escape. It doesn't state that it confuses the sharks to think they are electric fish. I don't know that you can make that assumption validly from the statements alone. Further, (A) shows that the electric fish do not use that feature of abrupt flashes and colors. Why is that helpful? Because it shows that it is not a feature common to all jellyfish and that they do not need it. They have electricity as a defense mechanism. And since the non-electric fish do not have that mechanism, they evolved another mechanism to evade their predator. I hope this helps, and I hope I am not missing anything that renders my explanation inaccurate.
@ you're correct. That is from PT 75.
@ I am with you. (B) does not help us based on the information in the stimulus. Maybe there is some other factor that affects the likelihood of cats dying. Answer choice (B) also requires the assumption that there's a link between cats being chased and dying. The stimulus indicates that they get stuck in trees, that doesn't mean they die as a result. I stick with my initial choice haha.
I think that the wording of answer choice (A) is not good enough. "Not as light-footed," which leaves the the possibility of humans having lighter feet haha.
The wording of (A) is not great, if I'm being honest.
(A) makes sense. Maybe they are not as light-footed because they do not get chased by dogs like the cats.
(B) Yes, but so what? Maybe cats most commonly die because of osteoporosis haha.
(C) So? did they develop this as a response to being chased? And we're discussing cats, so idc.
(D) I'm sure they are faster than elephants, but so what?
(E) Good for the dogs! haha
Hello Fellow 7Sagers,
I am interested to see what your overall thoughts are of the PT. I am even more interested to see what your thoughts are regarding the logical reasoning sections. Thank you.
Hello fellow 7Sagers,
A thought struck me this morning and I wanted to share it with you guys. Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember JY Ping saying that the difficulty of questions (Easy, Easier, Medium, Hard, Very Hard) are based on the data of 7Sagers who take the preptests. If enrolled members adhere to the order of taking the exams from older to more recent, and in the process of doing so, it is reasonable to assume that their logical skills are improving and hence their accuracy, then doesn't that eschew the representative difficulty of questions on the more recent tests (i.e. 50s, 60s, and 70s)?
I would very much appreciate if someone, with the appropriate knowledge of this, could clarify or correct my misconceptions. Thank you.
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It is natural to feel afraid. Our brains register the LSAT as a threat, and hence we become susceptible to fearful thoughts. It's easier said than done, but don't be afraid. What's that PT gonna throw at you that you haven't seen this far in your prep? A question? Maybe two? Well, those should not significantly affect your score. I am absolutely convinced that under-performance, if one is not overtly stressed, occurs because of attention deficit. Just make sure you're not burned out and you'll be fine.
First 179!!!!!!!! 180 is next lol
Can you elaborate on your mistakes? What do you consider a "stupid" mistake? And when you narrow your answer choices down to two, why do you think you're selecting the incorrect one?
Fellow 7Sagers,
My current situation is the following: I score in the 171-177 range, and my most consistent scores lie between 172 and 174. The only reason I'm not scoring consistently in the high 170s is the RC section. I currently miss anywhere from 3 to 6 questions. My pacing strategy is good, so I'm not suffering from time issues. I usually do really well on 3 passages and miss a couple questions on one of the passages, which negatively impacts my raw score in the section. I'm interested in feedback from people who are currently scoring -0 - -2 on the RC section. Thank you.
@ you're right only if the language is definitive. This is beyond the point because I never denied the truth of the proposition when it is definitive.
@ Mhmm okay
Hello Fellow 7Sagers,
Bear with me as I write the following. I absolutely need advice from people who have either been in my position or are knowledgable about such a situation. I took the September 2016 test, and because of the Grey passage and virus game, I cancelled my score. Ever since then, I have practiced and improved my RC. The logic games section has always been my strongest. I sat for the December 2016 LSAT. I walked into the testing center with an average score on my pretests of 167.5. I was feeling very good. The sequence of my sections were as follows: 1st LR, RC, Experimental LR, LG, 2nd LR. I was doing very well until I got to the LG section. I finished the 1st two games in 15 minutes. For some reason, when I got to the 3rd game I choked. The game might have been difficult but not really. I absolutely know and should have known how to do it. To make my story short, I ended up guessing on the last two games. Absolutely heartbreaking for me because my average on LG is (minus 0 - minus1).
Right now I am battling with a very very uncomfortable feeling because I truly have a dilemma. If I cancel, then that is 2 cancellations, which will not reflect well on my application. If I do not cancel, I might end up with a bad score, or even if not too bad of a score, it still won't reflect my actual potential on this test. My question is, what should I do? Please offer only solid advice. This means the world to me. Thank you.
It depends on the context. Advanced causal statements can be probabilistic, partial, or multipilistic in nature.
@ The definition of "or" in the exclusive arena does not mean at least one because at least one denotes that you could have more than one. In the exclusive or arena, the definition of the "or" is at most one. However, this is beyond the point. What I was saying is LSAC does not tend to use the terminology you indicated. They tend to be more specific as in "One of A or B is selected, but not both." This is because the latter is more specific in nature than "A or B, but not both." Anyways, I don't want for us to keep commenting on this post haha. If you'd like to discuss it in more detail, then just PM me.
And btw, if you painstakingly look at the logic games section of the LSAT, you'll notice that LSAC, more often than not, states that "one of A or B is selected, but not both" in this manner to eliminate the confusion of the exclusive or, where the option of selecting neither is possible. And at times, they might not write it that way, which leaves the option of neither being selected open, but for some reason they rarely, if ever, test that inference.
@ Yes, stating that one is selected is necessary to eliminate the "/A/B" option.
"You can have milk or juice, but not both" is not the same thing as "One of milk or juice is selected, but not both." The former leaves the possibility of not having either, and the latter eliminates that possibility, making the diagram a biconditional.
Fellow 7Sagers,
I have not struggled with an LG section in such a long time. I just retook the LG section from PT 57 (Which I did first time around so long ago), and I struggled with the time allotted. I am used to finishing LG in 25-30 minutes at most. I am wondering whether it was the product of me just feeling tired today, or is the section more difficult than average? I found the section a bit more difficult than the usual.
All input is much appreciated.
Greetings everyone,
I just wanted to see what you guys thought f the passage I mentioned in the title. I had a very hard time understanding it. Some feedback would be great.
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-67-section-1-passage-2-passage/
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if anyone could kindly provide me with an answer to the following: Are we afforded 35 minutes on the writing sample during the LSAT? Thanks to all of those who will answer.
The way I got to a consistent -0 is over time. I used to have to do a logic game almost everyday to stay consistent. However, now repetition is no longer important. With time and the right method, logic games become second nature. If you keep at it, you'll be able to finish almost every section, with a -0, and have about 10 minutes left to spare, or at least that's how it's become for me. Keep practicing and you'll get there.