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barneet56557
Wednesday, Sep 30 2015

Being sick actually increases your score by +5.

I have no data to back me up on this, just believe pls.

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barneet56557
Friday, Oct 30 2015

We need to talk! I'm in a very similar situation, albeit a higher gpa, and I've decided to shoot for Queens and retake in Dec.

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barneet56557
Wednesday, Sep 30 2015

@ That's definitely a superior alternative.

Hmm I'll take your advice, I was kind of contemplating my decision anyway, didn't want to get burnt out.

What do you think about doing some old sections everyday in the morning? Worth it at all?

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Wednesday, Sep 30 2015

Omg as weird as this is gonna sound can I listen in to this? I'm probably going to go for a run so won't have a mic, but I want to listen to this pep rally for encouragement!

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barneet56557
Wednesday, Sep 30 2015

@ You're not going to get anything out of taking another PT at this point. The exam is in 4 days. Why would you take another PT on Thursday? Even when I PT'd 3 times a week I wouldn't take 2 PTs in a span of three days (I'd PT Monday, Thursday and Sunday). You're have everything to lose and nothing to gain by doing that.

Well the last PT I did was 73 this past Saturday, so it's been quite a few days if I do one this Thursday.

Do you think it would be better to split the test up then and do a section every morning?

I realize I'm not going to make any gains, and I've already reached my goal score, I just want to keep my brain sharp.

Oh and also, starting today I've been waking up at 7am, and doing 2 old sections of LR and LG that I've done before (only PT 70s). I just feel like I'm helping my brain think at that time. Is this counter productive?

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barneet56557
Tuesday, Sep 29 2015

Just have PT 75 left to do, will do it Thursday. I'm not doing ANYTHING LSAT related on Friday, the day before the test.

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Saturday, Sep 26 2015

Just keep at it. If you're going -14 on an LR section you got a long ways to go. Just keep PTing, and eventually you'll see that number go down.

When I first started PTing back in June, I would go -10 in each LR section. For weeks it kept at about -8 to -10, and then recently in the past month I've started going -6 on each, to now -3.

PT. Blind Review. Repeat.

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Saturday, Sep 26 2015

We're all gonna absolutely crush PT 76.

They have nothing on us.

Months of being knocked to the ground by the LSAT, next Saturday is when we get back up and slaughter the LSAT.

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Thursday, Jun 25 2015

barneet56557

LR Question Types not covered in core curriculum?

Hey everyone,

So in roughly 2 days I should be done the core curriculum ultimate course. As I've been going along with the course I've bought the huge LR packet for LR, which has all the questions for every question type, like weakening, main point, NA etc.

While I've been doing the massive packets I've been putting every .pdf I've completed into the completed folder, and I was assuming once I'm done the 7Sage course I'll probably be done them all.

So unfortunately I have 4 .pdfs leftover. The first one is called Complete the Passage, (which one of the following most logically completes the paragraph, they have a big ____ in the stimulus). There's only 19 of these Questions so I'm not too concerned, I'll just apply the skills I learned from LR to do them.

Second one is also just 16 questions labelled evaluate, and the question stems say stuff like which one of the following would be most relevant in evaluating the conclusion of blahblah. Again not super concerned.

The third one is Paradox questions, and I've seen that term thrown about here in the forums too. There's 126 questions, and I don't see 7Sage having any lessons for them which kind of worries me.

The last one is called Principle (Identify), note that this is not the same as Principle (Apply) questions. I did those questions already, and they related to the lessons that 7Sage provides on principle questions. But these principle identify questions seem a little different, so I'm not sure how to approach them, maybe the same way I approach principle apply questions?

Sorry for the lengthy post but I really needed some feedback! I know lots of people here complement the Cambridge packets, so I thought it might help other people as well.

Also I'm guessing I'll most likely just have to use the skills I learned in LR from the other questions and apply them to these question types, but I'm hoping maybe 7Sage has some examples, especially for the Paradox questions.

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Friday, Jul 24 2015

barneet56557

In a slump =(

I've been really delaying making this thread, partially in hopes that I would start hitting the scores I need to soon, and wouldn't need to basically rant.

I started studying in May, finished the core curriculum + all Cambridge packets in 2months, and July 8th I started doing Practice Tests. I've done 8 in total, I do 3 a week, M, W, and F, mainly in accordance with my local university library's schedule. I blind review the lsats the entire day after, so on Tuesdays, and Thursday, and on the weekends I take it a little easier and blind review half day on Sat and Sun. I should mention that my BR scores are never much higher, they're always around 161, which worries me as time is clearly not the problem. I generally catch my silly mistakes in BR, but reading LR I almost always just go with my original answers. :/

I never took a diagnostic as I didn't want to discourage myself by getting a low score, and also didn't want to do LG without having proper diagramming skills. If I had to guess, I would say it would be pretty low, probably 140s, but I guess I'll never know.

Unlike most of the people on 7Sage, I'm from Canada, and here all you need to get into a vast majority of the schools, even some of the best ones is an LSAT score of 160+, assuming you have a stellar GPA, which I'm happy to say I have. For my particular school of choice, a 162 on the LSAT would guarantee me a spot according to the index score used for this year, and 160 would most likely get me in off the waiting list.

Now getting to the rant part, I'm stuck in a slump. My last 5 LSAT scores have been: 159, 157, 156, 158, and today was 157. The corresponding raw scores were 74, 69, 71, 70, and 73.

According to the analytics I have the most difficulty with Flaw/Descriptive weakening questions, and Law passages (the irony :L).

LG is my strongest section, I usually go -3 and it's usually due to either not having enough time or misreading some rules. RC is weird for me, there are days like today, where I went 20/26, and others where I go 18/28. LR is another weird one, it's all over the place. Average is 66%, usually 17/25, but some days I go 20/25, and today oddly enough I went 19/25, and 15/26.

I've been reading the Trainer, and am on Chapter 10, but stopped after I started taking PTs, will get back to it asap, and try to make sure I read one chapter everyday.

So sorry for this loooooooong background story, but I need help getting out of this slump and I'm so sick of coming home and marking my LSATs only to find out I keep getting 157ish. I'm hoping maybe as long as I keep at it, I'll eventually just increase my score, but I keep thinking like no matter what I do I always end up at the same score. Like days where I rock LG and RC, I mess up LR, and other days I rock LR and mess up RC.

Is there any other material I should get, like potentially read through the Manhattan LR, or go back and review 7Sage core lessons?

By Oct I need to get 160+, and I would even be happy with literally just getting 160, but I'm worried as people say the later tests are even harder, and if I'm scoring 157 on these earlier, apparently easier tests, I don't want to know what will happen later on. Which is why I think I'm going to start jumping around, I've done PTs 39-46 so far, and I think I should do 60s next week?

Anyway, thanks for reading, and I apologize again for making this exceptionally long.

* Oh and regarding time, I generally haven't had a problem with not finishing sections on time, that being said I don't have extra but I somehow always seem to just finish before time runs out, don't get any time leftover to go back to any questions, but when I go through questions I usually pick one without the intention of having to come back.

This is a NA question, and I when I was doing this question I read answer choice D), and I immediately crossed it off even though when I kept reading it seemed correct, simply because it said "network television news reports" instead of PROGRAMS.

Anyone else kind of frustrated with this question?

Maybe JY explained it, not sure as I'm not completely done the NA old problem sets.

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barneet56557
Saturday, Oct 24 2015

Since I'm from Canada, this was a great read, and very informative!

Thanks for putting it up. Oddly enough I think I can get into Queens but not UVIC, even though they are in the same "tier"

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Sunday, May 24 2015

barneet56557

How do you receive your LSAT Scores?

So I'm going to be writing the October LSAT, and from what I've been reading scores are generally released 3 weeks after you write the LSAT on the LSAC website. I've also heard that they can be mailed to you in 4 weeks.

My question is how do the scores look like when you login to see them, is it a simple number out of 180, without showing what you got on each section, or something different?

Also I'm a bit worried that I won't be able to apply to schools if I receive scores in November, as that's close to the deadlines for most Canadian schools.

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barneet56557
Sunday, Sep 20 2015

I was consistently going -9 on both LR sections, and then I printed off all my old LRs that I got wrong on PTs, did them slowly and proved to myself why the wrong answers are wrong, and the right ones are right.

After that I did notice me starting to go a little bit better as the PTs progressed. I've generally been going -5 on LRs now, and on my latest PT I went -3 and -2, which is by far the best I've ever done on LRs.

It does just "click" tbh, because there comes a point in time where you're just so used to doing LR sections, that you almost think what's the worst they could even throw at me.

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Wednesday, Jun 17 2015

barneet56557

Switching up sections?

How does everyone here feel about this concept, of studying for logic games for a week for example, and then moving onto RC, and then back to LG or LR.

I'm just following the 7Sage curriculum and they switch back and forth a lot which I actually enjoy.

When I'm so sick and tired of doing logic games I see RC and it seems kind of fun and new. Then when I'm tired of RC I look at LR and it looks appealing.

I'm curious if I'm the only (group one indicator looooool) one that thinks like this lol.

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Thursday, Jul 16 2015

barneet56557

What Prep Tests should I do?

I finished the core course about 2 weeks ago, and am now in prep test mode.

I will be done Prep Tests 39-45, by next Wednesday, and unfortunately I don't have 46 until 51. I could obtain those from Amazon, or I could move to Prep test 52 and beyond.

I'm planning on doing the Oct LSAT, and am currently doing 3 prep tests a week, although I think 2 would allow me to blind review tests better. By my current pace I'd be done the prep tests a couple days before Oct 3rd, but I'd really have to neglect school potentially as it starts in Sep, and still manage 3 prep tests a week.

So should I jump to 52, or obtain and complete 46-51?

Hey everyone, hope everyone is studying hard!

I saw a recent post here about the LSAT 180 Watch, can't seem to find it anymore so I'm thinking it was maybe against the TOS, not sure.

Anyway I'm wondering what everyone uses to keep track of time, I'm just using an online stop watch for now, but when I get closer to taking real PTs I'm probably investing in a cheap analog watch, so if anyone had any suggestions please leave them below!

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barneet56557
Monday, Sep 14 2015

This is a horrible idea. You will burn out incredibly fast.

Hell I was taking 3 PTs a week, and even then I thought I felt burnt, and more importantly I wasn't getting sufficient time to BR my answers, where the actual GAINS are made.

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barneet56557
Saturday, Sep 12 2015

I know how you feel. I'm personally dreading every time I have to write a PT now. I've only done 21, but like it seems like the same old thing, and I REALLY have to make the effort to go write one.

I just want Oct to come and to be done with the LSAT. I really think I can achieve the goal I'm aiming for!

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barneet56557
Thursday, Sep 10 2015

"among those that do similar amounts of typing..."

Wish I read this more carefully during the actual test, went with A, and then B during BR.

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Tuesday, Sep 08 2015

barneet56557

Goal Reached, now stagnant?

Hey guys,

So I've done 21 PTs now, and the one I just did today I got 161. My goal LSAT score is exactly 160+, and I've been getting that almost every time in the past 10 tests, and high 150s in the ones before that.

I have 5 LSATs left, and I'm wondering what I should do. I have basically reached my goal, and I honestly don't think I can even do any better. Take today for example, I did PT 66, and went -4 in games, -6 on both LRs, and -8 in RC. I literally guessed that those would be the scores as I was taking it, a -8 on RC is fairly good for me, and whenever I get that or under, I almost always do well on the actual PT.

-6 in LRs is another thing I don't think I can improve any further. I haven't done BR yet, but I most likely messed up one easy mark question due to topic context being confusing or mis-read, and the rest 5 were probably 5 star questions that I can't even get right during BR.

-4 in Games is something that I think I can fix, although I'm willing to bet one of those was a substitution and equivalence question that I just circled guessed and moved on. The rest of the wrong ones are from me rushing to get all the games done on time.

So what I'm really asking is what's the best way I can make use of the time I have left. I feel like if I do the remaining 5 PTs, they will be 160s, but is that really helping me for Oct? Maybe I should drill some of my weaknesses like RC and not do more?

Note I print off the entire LSAT over again for BR, and I generally average 167 for it, but regardless my actual PT score has been low 160s for as long as I can remember. Can't seem to get past it. I've heard that there is another transition when everything suddenly starts to click, but I feel like I'm just doing rinse repeat on every lsat.

I just need some guidance.

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barneet56557
Sunday, Dec 06 2015

@ Overall I felt LG section was much easier than normal

Said no one ever.

LOL

Fuck I was absolutely cruising through the test yesterday, I messed up on Oct due to misreading a logic game, so I was prepared this time.

I had it last (thank god), and I ripped through Games 1 and 2 super fast, only to get to Game 3 and immediately nope out of there to Game 4.

I had trouble with Game 4 in the sense that I answered everything but I didn't feel fully confident.

Then went back to Game 3 and literally had 6min but I was frozen like a popsicle. I slowly watched time tick down as I sat there and then went All As.

rip

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barneet56557
Saturday, Sep 05 2015

Albeit extreme, this is similar to my situation in a sense. Lately I have absolutely zero motivation to go and do a PT. I mean when I start I always finish and don't think about it during the PT, but just the thought of doing YET another PT is ugh.

It's the repetitiveness that's getting to me.

I would suggest taking a break, and potentially reducing the number of PTs a week you're doing, it's worked for me.

I mean technically it's not the quantity of PTs you've done, more of doing a decent amount and BRing well.

Also I'm hitting the scores that I want on test day, so I'm just like, lemme do Oct and get done with this!

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barneet56557
Monday, Oct 05 2015

I could verbatim write this game out right now. This game is giving me nightmares. I literally misread not one, TWO game rules leading me to panic and guess all Ds on this game.

What makes me the most mad is that it was not even a hard game. Literally PT 76 had none of those "weird" games and I still messed up.

Furthermore when I've been doing Pts I have occasionally misread game rules and bombed games. That's why before driving on Saturday I pumped myself in the car and tried to list out all the things I wouldn't mess up on, one of them being misreading a game rule.

I know we can't say specific stuff about the games, but I literally interpreted one of the rules to be you have to see at least one XY, instead of XZ. I'm using random symbols, but how the hell do you even mess that up. This led to me crossing off all the answer choices in Q1, and then utter chaos.

My only smart move I'd say was immediately moving onto Game 4.

Also I know lots of people are saying they messed this game up, but I have a strong feeling a vast majority did well on it just it was a game that took a little bit more time, which means there's no godsend curve that will help us.

Q_Q

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barneet56557
Saturday, Oct 03 2015

Dude don't worry about it. You probably only messed up on the last game bubbling. Think positive!

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barneet56557
Saturday, Oct 03 2015

@ Awoodwo1 - you're not alone... I screwed up the LGs; games 2 and 3 threw off my timing.... Irritated b/c I spent a good amount of time thinking I could get -4 or less on that section....

Game 2 wasn't bad, I think it just ate a lot of time, I didn't even realize it. Literally I thought I was on pace until I hit game 3, misread a rule, tried every question in the first question to realize nothing worked, panicked, went back and saw I misread the rule, fixed it, looked at my clock to see 10min. Like WUUUUUUT even happened.

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barneet56557
Saturday, Oct 03 2015

@ having drinner tonight.

We both need to sleep hahahaha.

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Saturday, Oct 03 2015

@ If the real LG section is the one identified above, I had it right after the break, and I totally bombed because I lost my flow, despite getting my blood flowing, eating, and drinking. I really lost my cool, sadly, and ended up filling in bubbles just to get some answers down. I was hoping for upper 150s, but I think that real LG may have killed that hope, unless I'm really lucky.

My LG was also the one right after the break. With the Fall/Spring stuff, pretty sure that is the real LG as it's the only one I had.

I didn't think of it, but the break might have ruined my flow too ugh.

Don't stress, I think we all fucked up this section.

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barneet56557
Saturday, Oct 03 2015

Had RC, LR, LR, LG, and then LR.

Absolutely bombed that 2shift game, kind of by misreading a rule, but more because Game 2 took up time. I made a smart move I think by looking at clock and seeing 10min left, then skipping Game 3, and going onto 4 which was much easier. Went back to game 3 and circled all one bubble, PLEASE BE RIGHT LOL.

About LR, there was one SUPER hard LR, which was my first one, 26 questions. The second one and third were much easier, but the first and second were 26, while last one was 25 so I'm pretty sure last one is legit, which is fine I think I did okay. BUT that first LR, I'm pretty sure I bombed it, but I doubt it would be experimental because then LR would be too easy overall.

Also RC felt way too easy, I kinda phased myself out thinking it was experimental because it was so damn easy. I mean until the last comparative passage which was a frigging blur.

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Friday, Jul 03 2015

barneet56557

Scrolling!

This is more of a suggestion, and I'm pretty sure there must be some sort of limitation that prevents this, but why can't we fast scroll up or down on the site? I don't mean the regular scrolling, but holding down the middle button on the mouse and scrolling up and down.

It makes browsing the discussion forum a little easier.

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Friday, Oct 02 2015

edit: Woops I don't think the image worked :/. Oh well, good luck on the test everyone!

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Friday, Oct 02 2015

Would answer choice B work as a necessary assumption though?

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Friday, Oct 02 2015

Ugh this question was so simple but I immediately crossed off E as it had A or B, and I thought that it obviously couldn't be that. I went with B, although I knew that it said LIKELY, which is different from the stimulus, but panicked.

Caught it in BR, but I'm rattled as this question threw my momentum off for a couple others after.

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Thursday, Oct 01 2015

@ uh so seriously, did anyone record this?

PLS.

I had a 4-7pm PST class today so I entirely missed this.

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