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Monday, Sep 26 2022

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Logical Reasoning Help

I need help really bad guys. I read the Ellen Cassidy book on Logical Reasoning and throughout my studies I've been doing really good on Logical Reasoning. I just hit the newest Practice Tests (80s) and it seems like every answer choice I pick is wrong. I'm struggling so bad with these newer tests and their abstract language. I'm crying and so so anxious about my upcoming test because it seems like nothing is working. It seems like all my work has been for nothing. Does anyone have any advice at all on how to reset my mindset for the newer Logical Reasoning sections? I try going to Manhattan Prep and watching JY's lessons on the new answer choices but it seems like literally nothing is helping.

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Thursday, Nov 23 2023

I'm a UCI law student. I can spare some time today to go over what I did in applying.

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Wednesday, Sep 22 2021

I thought about answer choice D a bit differently. The author states in the passage, "One should not make an informed decision solely on the basis of the information one does possess." D states, "on the inadequate basis of one's personal experience with cars." That personal experience with cars, I took, did parallel the personal information mentioned in the passage. The other answer choices don't talk about any individual having prior experience in their chosen topics or fields.

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Thursday, Jul 22 2021

The conditional logic that JY did was pretty confusing for me, and I'm guessing some of you. This is how I broke down the passage. I thought of this passage in terms of theory and practice. Theory can sometimes sound good, but in practice it may turn out horribly. There are some forms of government, for example, that sound amazing theoretically but in practice they're horrible. I liken this passage to the above:

The editorialist is basically telling us that there are two options for drivers who have been convicted of a serious driving related offense. These same drivers also have a large number of demerit points. These two options include jail or this driver re-education program.

The author goes on to say, "only if drivers are likely to be made into more responsible drivers should this program be recommended."

The author then says right after, that this program basically doesn't work at all. So in theory, this program sounds good but in practice it's terrible because these people can't be rehabilitated.

The author in my mind is subtly telling the readers that jail should basically be the option since these people can't be changed in any way. If we look at the answers, A gives us the correct choice.

B - basically states the opposite of what the author is really telling us.

C - moving towards the right answer, but doesn't quite hit the mark since the author is saying that out of the two options, jail is the best option.

D - basically a statement about another type of driver. Doesn't hit the mark.

E - talks about drivers who have a lot of demerit points but no serious driving convictions. Again, isn't related to the drivers in the passage.

This is long, but I hope it helps!

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I'm having a little trouble understanding why the answer to this question is C). If the author explicitly states at the end of the passage that, "the survey data do not establish that financial problems are the major problem in contemporary marriages," how could the answer be, C) "The conclusion drawn in Raghnall's article is inadequately justified," if the author states previously that, "Raghnall's conclusion from the survey data is that financial problems are the major problem in their marriages and an important factor contributing to the high divorce rate." My answer was A)

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Saturday, Jun 19 2021

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Study Schedule

Hi Guys,

I just signed up for 7sage and I think the course is fantastic. I'm preparing to sign up for the October lsat or even the November lsat. The course is telling me to do 55 hours a week to prepare and I simply cannot do that. The maximum number of hours I could reasonably study per week is about 30, since I'm taking summer school and I wouldn't want to risk burnout. I already do fairly well on the Reading Comprehension, I just need a lot of practice on Logic Games and Logical Reasoning. Given that I have about 3.5 months to study, is 25-30 hours a week enough? I'm aiming for a 165+ on the lsat. I got in the low 140s for the diagnostic, however, it was my very first test. Any thoughts would be very appreciated!

Thank you

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Tuesday, Aug 17 2021

This is great advice. I still struggle to avoid the preset college mentality but I'm working hard to fully understand exactly what I'm doing.

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Tuesday, Jul 13 2021

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Sequencing Games w/a Twist

Hey guys,

I'm going over the Sequencing Games w/a Twist and after studying the board set-ups I can't seem to figure out the problem sets. Some of the problem sets are Grouping + Sequencing games and I haven't even gone over that lesson yet. Is it normal that I'm confused? What can I do to get better at just simply making the boards? After I make the boards I whizz through the questions.

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Monday, Oct 11 2021

I'd love to join!!!!

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Saturday, Oct 09 2021

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LawHub

Hey guys,

The LawHub isn't opening and my test is tomorrow. What do I do?

#help

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Monday, Jan 09 2023

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Tips for the exam

Just wanted to make a post showing support before the Jan and Feb test. Try to relax during these next several days. If you're feeling extra anxious, biting your nails or can't eat food, go outside and take a super long walk. It will clear your brain and help you concentrate. Don't rush through study materials now. Just focus on what you already know and skim through basic prep.

On the night before the test, get good sleep. If you can't sleep try to take a long hot shower. Don't drink too much water. Wake up early the next day so you can go to the bathroom if you need to. In the hours before the exam, just go outside and walk around. I went into my backyard and talked to my girlfriend on the phone for hours. It helped distract me from all of my anxiety.

During the test, I took a glass of water with me and a rag. The rag was just to wipe my hands if they were sweaty. It relaxed me to have it on the table too for some reason. I also put every clock away because the noise was distracting.

Technology tips: Put your phone on airplane mode during the exam. Don't turn it off. The proctor didn't even ask me if it was turned on. If you have technical difficulties you can reach right behind you and get LSAC on the phone as quickly as possible. Make sure your camera and audio work every single day. Check your laptop every day. DO NOT UPDATE YOUR WINDOWS OS. Please please please. Pick up your laptop and shake it with the camera on. My camera went out when I picked my laptop up during the 10 minute break between sections and I got screwed over in October. This is just something that happened to me so I'm passing it onto you guys.

Good luck. A lot of information but I've taken the test 4 times now and this is what I did to be as ready as possible for my exam.

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Sunday, Dec 04 2022

Hey guys. Since the 7Sage chat function isn't that great. I can't go back and forth between messages on here, I created a discord server so you can all ask questions and I can provide a pretty generalized guide for all of you.

https://discord.gg/MGHxzDQq

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Sunday, Jul 04 2021

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In/Out Game Boards

I understand bi-conditionals, advanced logic, etc. I always get thrown off when I have to make multiple boards in In/Out Games. Can anyone give me some advice on when to make multiple boards and how many boards to make? Are there any words I should be looking out for?

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Saturday, Dec 03 2022

I messaged you all individually and I might take a bit to get back to you but I'll definitely try to give you an updated check list of study tips by tonight

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Friday, Sep 03 2021

I'd be down

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Hey guys. I'm open to giving study tips for those who are struggling to break into the 150s. I have some good strategies for every section. I began testing at a 136, and I gradually made my way through the 140s and into the 150s. I scored in the high 50s for this last exam and I'm applying to law school. I got a lot of advice from people on 7sage, and I feel it's only right to return the favor.

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Saturday, Dec 03 2022

Purchase the Loophole by Ellen Cassidy. It was amazing for logical reasoning. I read it over twice and it vastly improved my score. I also approached LG differently. Instead of always watching JY do the problems, I would take a bunch of problems blind and review them in-depth before doing anything else. I taught myself LG and it got me down to -2. If you're at a 133, unfortunately you don't have a good grasp on the test. 7Sage didn't let you down, you just aren't studying correctly. You should be drilling the basics that 7Sage gives you, taking practice drills timed, and blind reviewing everything.

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Saturday, Dec 03 2022

I second Robbie. Take the usual 3 section modern test and tack on an additional fourth section. Usually I just took a random section from any test and had it in another tab. I would also take the most recent tests. You should be taking the 80s and 90s, as these will be the most like your real LSAT. I would also consider taking timed 35 minute sections on your off days. After taking these sections, I would blind review them heavy. Blind review will boost your score more than anything.

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