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charlesabloom15
Wednesday, Nov 25 2015

@.hopkins Great plan on all counts! Feel free to PM me if you need help or just post in the forums :D

Thank you so much!

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charlesabloom15
Tuesday, Nov 24 2015

@ That said, being risk averse, I would get one... and that being the case, 7 sage is a really good course to get... better than many in the market and it will likely help you develop and get comfortable with the tools you need to do well on the LSAT.

Thanks for that. I have decided that I will start with the Trainer and if I don't feel I'm making the progress I need, I'll go with a 7Sage course.

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charlesabloom15
Tuesday, Nov 24 2015

Wow, the Cambridge downloads are expensive. I feel pretty strongly about taking 5 section exams, and those plus the sets of drilling problems will set me back more than $400. I guess it's probably worth it.

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charlesabloom15
Monday, Nov 23 2015

@.hopkins Please do this ... they still have them!

On it. Wow, they even warn of the impending unavailability of their downloads. Don't think I'm going to spring for the complete 1-70 set, but will go for something close. This is a no-brainer because regardless of whether I take a course, I'll need the preptests. Do people usually take 5 section preptests? Cambridge offers both 4 section and 5 section options (and 6, it seems).

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charlesabloom15
Monday, Nov 23 2015

@.hopkins No ! Just retake retake retake ... you will be a LG ninja.

Ok, so running out is not a concern. But to practice LGs the only way is to buy the PTs in their entirety right? Or am I missing something?

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charlesabloom15
Monday, Nov 23 2015

@ Since you're on the train you can pretty easily do logic games to kill time. Just fool proof them on the train and you'll be killing it pretty quickly.

Wow, thank you for your advice thus far. This is very helpful. Not to get too specific, but say I buy the Trainer (I'm ordering it today), I start a close read to really learn the material, then I start fool-proofing LGs on the train. Do I need to worry about running out of logic games by June, and is the best way to get them just to order a bunch of PTs and "extract" their logic games?

I don't mind lugging the Trainer with me if it is really that good of a book. I'm very intrigued by the possibility of this $50 book really having the ability to teach me what I need to know so that I can actually start doing PTs.

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charlesabloom15
Monday, Nov 23 2015

@.hopkins Go get

The LSAT Trainer

. Use one of the study schedules on

@

's site (

http://www.lsattrainer.com

). Take a few PT's at the end and see if you still need more. At that point you can purchase 7sage if you still need more help/fine-tuning.

Not to doubt you at all, but what is better about The LSAT Trainer than the PowerScore Bible? I've just seen so many testimonials around the various LSAT forums that commend the PS Bible. Also, I've heard that the Trainer doesn't use real old LSAT questions. Is that really a problem?

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charlesabloom15
Monday, Nov 23 2015

Thanks for that. I'm looking at the Starter or the Premium (although Premium would expire before June). I see what you mean about the tutors and agree it's probably better to wait. Also, I want to try to find a way to use this long commute to my advantage and actually study while I sit on the train. The videos might use too much data but bringing some practice LGs with me would be a good use of that time.

Nope, no Halloween-themed university. Where I went it's not actually called a "thesis" but it's close enough.

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Monday, Nov 23 2015

charlesabloom15

Do I really need a prep course?

I have been "just about to start" my LSAT prep for way too long now. I am a 2015 graduate with a full-time paralegal job and I first intended to study during college and take the June 2015. Bought Blueprint and never used it (senior thesis was too time consuming). Blueprint expired and I didn't renew. Then, December was the goal, but I didn't start prep and decided February would be better. I still haven't started and I'm worried that now I should take June, but I don't want to keep this cycle going. When I get home from work and my 1.5hr commute each day, I just don't feel motivated to study.

Part of what's holding me back is that I bought Blueprint and didn't use it, so I'm afraid of buying another course now and then having the same thing happen. My diagnostic was 153, with -16 LG, -8 RC and -5/6 LR. It is obvious that LG needs the most work. I feel comfortable with the type of thinking that LR and RC require, and I honestly feel that PTs will really help me in those areas, but the fact of the matter is, I have no LG competency right now, and in order to make PTs worth my time (and to avoid wasting them), I need to learn how to do LGs. I would like to score above 165.

I'm left with the question of whether I really need to spend money on a course (if I do, I think it will be 7Sage), or if the PowerScore Logic Games Bible can teach me what I need to know to start doing PTs. If I do 7Sage, is the Ultimate really necessary? Maybe a few meetings with a tutor would do it? Honestly, I'm lost, and some guidance would be very helpful.

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charlesabloom15
Sunday, Jun 12 2016

@ If you don't get your score you won't know what you need to work on and it will have been totally pointless.

@ You can learn far too much from your score.

Makes sense, but isn't a PT just as useful (maybe the real test is slightly more useful)?

Edit: My real objective is a 170, but to keep things realistic with the time remaining, I'm saying 165. I'm guessing this doesn't change anything unless a score disparity of 10 points would raise eyebrows among AdComs.

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charlesabloom15
Saturday, Jun 11 2016

@.busis

I'm going to weigh in on the other side. If you think you can do better in September, you should cancel. You don't have to write an addendum to explain a cancellation, and an admissions officer won't look askance at it. I just don't see much upside to letting the score become official, and the downside is obvious.

This exactly what I was thinking, so I wanted to see if there were any convincing reasons not to cancel.

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charlesabloom15
Saturday, Jun 11 2016

@

Don't cancel. It's not remotely worth it to cancel and getting a mediocre score might help focus you so you don't take it unprepared again. You're likely writing an addendum either way so you may as well see the score.

Do you mean that I will need to write an addendum about the cancellation or about the low score, depending on what I choose to do?

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Saturday, Jun 11 2016

charlesabloom15

Need help - one day left to cancel

Hey Guys,

I know it's not a fun topic, but I am really struggling with the question of whether to cancel my score and would appreciate some advice. My situation is a bit unusual so I've found most of the advice out there to be not that helpful. (tl;dr - too busy at work, wasn't ready for June but took it anyway, will do better in sept., should I cancel?)

In January, I registered for the June exam. I am a legal assistant at a v5 firm and shortly after registering was assigned to a new case that was going to trial. I worked 85+ hour weeks from mid-March thru 2.5 weeks before the June exam, and thus did no prep at all during that time.

The biggest problem at this point was that I hadn't yet "learned" logic games. I knew I couldn't do that in two weeks, but continued to work as hard as I could, prepping 7 hours per weekday and 10 on weekends, plus 6 hours of tutoring. The tutoring was great, and gave me the tools I need to work most effectively over this summer for September. I went into the exam knowing well that I was not ready and would not perform to my highest potential. I took the test because I paid for it and felt the test day experience could only be beneficial. I was PTing around 160 and getting at least half wrong on LG. The test went fine, but I think I scored somewhere in 159-161. I am going to take September and am planning to work extremely hard until then, and I won't have the same issue with work hours. I am certain that I will do much better in September. I am aiming for at least a 165.

The question, then, is whether it is worth having a lower score on my record if I know for a fact that I will do better in September. It seems to me that the best choice is to cancel, and that all I would get out of not canceling would be having the ability to see my score - nice, but worth it if I can avoid having a 159 on my record? If I don't cancel, I would write an addendum explaining the circumstances leading up to the exam. What do you guys think?

Thanks so much!

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charlesabloom15
Saturday, Dec 03 2016

Anyone who had two LR sections: do you remember a question about bed mites?

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