I would like to join too. My email is cnguye15@.com. Thanks.

I finished the trainer. The problem is that it was hard to incorporate Trainer's POE techniques in real test situation. I tried POE but it seems to slow me down because it takes time to cross out all answer choices sometime. So usually I only put a "C" for a contender. And usually I am often left with 2 choices and always pick the wrong one because i don't know why one answer is better than the other so i just use my intuition. I think I will try to slow down a bit and refrain from rereading the stimulus, which i do a lot for long stimuli to understand the argument.

I 've been following Grameke Blake's LR tips, which emphasize a lot on understanding the stimulus because when you fully understand the stimulus, the correct answer choice will be easier to spot. It may work well on RC but not for LR and I don't know why. So if slow down to answer 22 questions so i have time for POE then would it improve my accuracy? I would also appreciate if someone can tell me how you read LR stimuli normally. What is your thought process? It seems to me that it helps a lot if you know how to read LR stimuli effectively. Thanks for yo all

I don't think it is a problem if you do better on it. I think it is important to skip some time-sink questions. It used to be natural for me to spend 4 minute reading and relied on my memory (similar 7 sage technique). I remembered getting -4 and -5 consistently. I became greedy and then speed reading but ended up having strange not deeply understanding what i read. I got more answers wrong and got worst. I am gonna re-practice for 7 sage technique and rely on my memory for inference questions. After trying so many techniques, memory method is still the best.

Hi,

I believe it is D.

My understanding of the stimulus is:

Main point: the tool must have been used by human

Support: the tool was found in a savanna. there were prehistoric human there, but chimpanzee lived in forest.

There are two flaws:

first it presumes that the chimpanzee cannot carry their tool in while traveling savanna and left it there.

Second, the topography can change over time. it may be that the savanna was in fact a forest when the chimpanzee was alive and changed.

C is the opposite of the first flaw. Did they replace the term human with chimpanzee, C would be correct.

However, even if C was modified , i would still pick D because it has more direct impact on the argument. By checking the answer, you can negate it and will see that it will completely destroy the argument.

I am studying the fundamentals in LR so this is the best i can do. Is my reasoning correct? Thanks

How can I do this in 1.5 minute? It took me almost 2 minutes.

Hey golmaryam,

It's been 2 years since my first diagnostic and second. The first one was 132 and the second 162 ( 2 years after the first one). I didn't spend 2 years studying for the test, as I decided to pursue a master as a back-up plan (go for phd) but then decided to go law school because the Phd- path is too long for me. Thanks god after 7 months of intensive reading (2-3 books a week), I took the june 2007 lsat and got 162 (still -7 for LG). If you are passionate for law you may just want to spend another 6 months reading complex materials. Taking a year off will allow you to improve your soft and lsat score. I am an international student as well. When i first did LSAT i couldn't understand most of what LR stimuli or RC passages said. If you get down all the techniques, then the main problem is comprehension.

I think getting from 135 to 160 is doable for 4 months, if you focus on logic game. try to get -1 or something. It took me 2 months to get from 132 to 153 (missed 8 or 9 in LG). To reach 165+ requires significant improvements on LR and RC (-15 to -17), which is where I am right now. I just got 162 for the first last month after taking a 2 year break from lsat to do my master. I credit my jump to significant improvement in my reading comprehension in general as what i solely did for my master was reading.But now I am kinda stuck at LR. To get 160 + i suggest you use scholarly journals for extra practice and apply 7 sage techniques to reading these passages. If you read complex materials, RC is not that super hard.

Thanks tsamvelyan. This is not only for lsat. It is for every goal you wanna achieve in real life.

I think it is possible to get low 130s to mid 150 or even 160 if you can perfect LG I recommend you read lots of complicated journals to help on LR and RC for those 4 months and focus on logic game. My score used to be 132 two years ago, took a prep course, got up to 154 for my last pt with -8 on LG but quit studying lsat. And 2 years later, I took the test again and got 162 (with -8 LG but only -4 on RC). The significant improvement has to do that fact that my reading skill has improved tremendously over those years. Now Im working on LG and LR aiming for 170.

After reading the stimulus, I tried to anticipate what the answer would look like. The word "however"is critical because right after the last sentence I anticipated the answer would be something about the fact that exercising is better than taking drug in slowing down age-related changes. E is the best answer although I was a little skeptical with the world "practical," not really supported. But if we interpret "practical" loosely as "better" then E is correct.

I think the goal is to identify the main conclusion, and if we can do this we are half way done. I used to have a problem with this question before because i couldn't identify its conclusion. But now it's a piece of cake. I think that it is very unlikely for LSAC would ask you for an unstated conclusion, except for question 23 sect 1 prep 30.

I am also taking the sep test. My diagnostic was 161. I am trying to improve my score to 170 + I live in VA. If you want to contact through Skype. My Skype ID is michaelcuong3105.

Hi,

I also looking for a study group through Skype. Please let me know if you are interested My email is cnguye15@.com. Thanks.

Cuong,

I am on the same boat. Diagnostic two years ago 132, took a prep course, got 150 but then gave up. Two years later, I took diagnostic again, 162 for the free online LSAC (- 8 LR, -7 LG, -5 RC. Next test 161 and 158. The last one score LG (-10) and (-13) LR (-6)

Im working on LG and LR and stopped taking test after my 158. Its been 3 weeks since i started. LR is still in the same spot. My average now miss for LR is about -10 or -12 for both sections timed after 10 LRs sections. Even if I blind review, the best is like -9. I don't know why i miss more questions the first half usually from 1-14. RC average is -7, which is worse from the diagnostic (-5). I tried speed reading and highlighting as some suggestions here, and ended up missing more question.

I really wanna hit 170 and above because I only aim top 5 especially Uchicago. I have strong LORs from uchicago law professors, as I've finished my MA in political science there. I spend about 30 hours/week studying, but make no progress. Does it mean that I hit my peak? Any useful advice, please? I am totally desperate now. Does anyone wanna study in group? It may help? Private tutoring? Thanks

Thanks everyone, especially Kaftphillip. i just took RC prep 23, with -3. I missed 2 questions on passage three, the debate over the environmental crisis, which i spent more than 4 minutes to read!!! Other than that, I focused on reading for structure and use the main point to guide me through most questions. I managed to finish it 33 minutes.

Do you think reading for structure and main point still applies to modern RCs (from 36 onward) which seem to be much harder? I have problem with global inference question. For additional readings, I think I will just stop reading books and focus on short articles and news because they are shorter.

BD Mills,

If you want to apply for this year cycle, I think you should spend time on writing an addendum explaining why you didn't score as well as you wanted. Also you should focus on your personal statement, and diversity essay. But you should emphasize how you have overcome all the hardships to achieve your goal/dream of being a lawyer. Soft factors matter a lot in law school admission when hard factors don't stand out.

For lsat, i don't know much about your study approach, but I am in the same boat as you. Quantity does not guarantee high score. I studied a lot since Sep but my performance has been in decline (especially in LR and RC). But anyways, you should take a day off before the test to avoid anxiety during test day.

Hope it helps

Speaking as an international student from vietnam, i think a Jd is much more valuable than llm in terms of prestige and career opportunities . A jd gives you more job oppprtunities in the u.s. i dont think international students with llm even from t14 have hard time finding a job in good u.s law firms.

If you want to do in-depth research in international laws, one year isnt enough. I did my master at uchicago where i spent a great bulk of my time at the lawschool. I hung out with lots of llms. Most of them didnt have time to finish course reading let alone doing research. Just my 2 cents

Nilesh S thanks for the tip. I am not really good at science-passage since I am a polisci major. Do know any good books that are difficult to read in natural science?