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Sunday, Dec 01 2019

i took it like 5 times. not a problem. got close to a full scholarship. no one really cared.

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Thursday, Jun 27 2019

Wowwwwwww! Congrats!

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Thursday, Jun 27 2019

@53333 how’d you do?

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Thursday, Jun 27 2019

Why not retake? I feel like those percentages are wrong (even if lsac quotes them). Applying early for early decision I don’t think makes a difference. So I would take the sept or possibly oct (if the oct test will count towards Ed). If something is your dream, i would encourage you to take the steps to have more than just a 1/4 chance. Especially since you have time. Good luck!

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Tuesday, Jun 11 2019

Thanks! And good luck!

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Monday, Jun 10 2019

ctsoucalas903

Thank you! It's been a hell of a ride!

Dear 7Sage community,

As my account for the past 1.5 years is about to expire in an hour, I just want to say thank you for all the tips, encouragement, and wisdom. I applied last year, and got into a school in the mid 60's with no scholarship. This year I am going to a top 25 school with very, very close to a full ride. Wow what a difference applying earlier, with a much better score, and more fully flushed out apps does (basically a different applicant).

I could write all day about this. I kind of want to because I have learned so much in this journey that I would love to hand over this highly niched knowledge. But I will say this:

Just because you are a good person doesn't mean you are entitled to a good score. It must be earned. And in many people's cases, it took years. Some of my heroes on this website battled for 2 plus years to get their score, but it paid off BIG. I studied for almost a year and it paid off BIG for me. I was rejected from the school I will attend last year and this year they are rolling out the red carpet.

Your stories matter. Your humanity matters. But numbers matter most. If schools were to let in every great person or story, numbers at most schools would be down. So take the numbers component seriously. And if you have great essays or stories, that will definitely help. But get those numbers! I promise you, they are not playing around.

Do everything JY says. Obviously test what he says out. But he doesn't say things randomly with no thought (or at least not when it comes to the LSAT).

Take practice tests with 5 (or I recommend 6 sections). It drives me crazy when people are willing to do everything under the sun to prepare, but when it comes to PT, they take 4 sections. Then people say "the energy of test day will give you that extra boost." Ok, maybe it does. But aren't we trying to simulate test conditions as best as possibly. 5 sections are different than 4. And practice with 5 then get the additional "energy boost." I promise you, it helped me out.

The main difference between a 167 and a 172 is most likely test taking strategy. Of course better fundamentals helps, but at this point it's strategy.

Practice reading comprehension. Most people believe this is the hardest section to improve. That is because most people don't like to practice this section. LR is fun and you can do you a few questions at a time. I found LG fun. I hated RC, practiced it the least, and improved upon it the least. Practice it!

Don't be afraid to postpone a year. It was one of the most painful decisions of my life. It doesn't matter where you are in your life. But it was one of the best decisions I have ever made.

Sorry, but if you are just starting you LSAT prep, it's probably best to postpone a year. By the time you take your first real test, you will most likely realize you can do waaaaay better and it's too late (plus you have to start writing essays). Don't be afraid to wait a year (please refer to #7).

It's important to be able to break this test down. So taking your first PT in month 3 then retaking at month 5 looks very different than taking your first test in month 5. As you get close to test day, getting results are more important. So settling for cheap tricks versus really digging deep happens. So you can end up taking 3 tests in 6 months and very really studied in depth. Then you can become burned out after test 3 and then the real pressure happens. Wow, I have studied for 6 months and keep not improving. Is this for me? If i take it again I REALLY must do well! Don't do this to yourself. If after the second take you don't see big gains, take a year off and really go deep.

Get a tutor. Take all the pain and suffering that they had to go through and learn from it.

You don't only need big chunks of time to study. 20 mins here and there (in addition to the necessary big chunks of time) can really help and add up.

This test is a snapshot of where you on a highly specific set of skills right now only. It doesn't define you. But as you study for this test one can reduce their value to how well they did on their most recent PT. Don't get to high or too low on this. Study. Learn. And move on.

There are a million more things to say but I can't think of them. But for those in the deep dark jungle of LSAT study, I would come across the occasional 7Sage "Thank you" message and wondered if I were every going to be able to write one. I am. Thank you 7Sage! And best of luck to all of you who are studying! It is worth it. It pays off. It might take a little more time than you thought, but have faith!

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ctsoucalas903
Thursday, Jun 06 2019

Nothing. No speeding it up. Just making them like you and think of you whenever they do get to waitlists. Or whenever they do get to the waitlist and are in a position to take a “who do we like” person vs. if they are targeting something specific that you aren’t.

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ctsoucalas903
Tuesday, May 21 2019

Congrats, and see you at UC Irvine!

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Monday, May 20 2019

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Waitlist Activity

I'd love to know progress from people on the waitlist, and to know what schools are starting to pull applicants off the waitlist.

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Thursday, May 16 2019

I would take it in a library. Or a coffee shop if you want to ramp up distractions. That should be fine. The vast majority of test taking situations will be captured by taking it in a library. And most of the remaining will be by coffee shops. Testing for the anomaly situations (2% or less) is probably not needed.

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Sunday, May 12 2019

I would study 40+ hours a week if you truly have the summer off and MUST apply in Sept. I would also get a tutor once your done with the CC so that you are studying as efficiently and effectively as possible.

Also, it's so hard to do that well out the gate. You might want to set yourself up with an another test as well. Will NW take the Oct test for ED? I suspect they will.

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Saturday, May 04 2019

How often do you practice RC? I find it’s waaaay easier to practice LG and LR. It might be the case where you just have to do it more.

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Thursday, May 02 2019

@leahbeuk911 What did you decide?

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Tuesday, Apr 30 2019

I have found test taking technique to primarily be the difference from high 160s to 170s. Learning to manage time (skipping) will make a lot of difference. Do you record your PT's or even sections.

Also, if you have a uGPA of 4.0 DO NOT early decision NYU. With a 170+ and a 4.0 you would get significant money from them that you would be forfeiting by applying early decision. Good luck!

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Monday, Apr 29 2019

$100,000+ difference is a lot. I don't think that is worth the difference in prestige

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Sunday, Apr 28 2019

Push through it. Every test will get a little less painful. Just keep doing them! There are 86 PT’s now, so maybe use older ones to get through the anxiety

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Thursday, Apr 25 2019

@leahbeuk911 thanks! Congrats to you too! You’re comments on reapplying really helped me a lot. What a difference waiting a cycle can make!

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Thursday, Apr 25 2019

UCI with $135,000 scholarship (what amounts to a 97% scholarship). Was rejected last cycle before I found 7sage. Thanks 7sage!

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ctsoucalas903
Monday, Apr 22 2019

If you haven’t done the CC yet I’d go lower. Frankly if that is the score you want you might be retaking in oct/nov. bombing the first time is quite normal. Almost a right of passage. I would probably get ultimate plus if I were you and plan on taking sept and nov. good luck!

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ctsoucalas903
Monday, Apr 22 2019

I have doing that if I took a fresh PT then retook that exact test I thoroughly BR’ed 3 months later, I will have remembered almost no questions. Because in that time i will have seen 1000’s of more questions. About similar topics, blood temperature, crime rates, genetic adaptations etc. You will be just fine.

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

Sept is fine if you can study 20 hours a week, and obviously in a productive/efficient way. I would probably get a tutor as well if you want to make those gains by Sept. Good luck!

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

Man did I forget the obvious. Thanks @leahbeuk911 With a 4.0gpa you probably will get close to full rides at a lower T14 as it stands now with a 169. But if you can score a even 1 or 2 points higher, you might be able to get close to full rides at T10 schools. I know it sucks to retake. It is definitely draining. But the payoffs are soooo tremendous that I think pushing through it is important. Good luck on your decision!

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ctsoucalas903
Friday, Apr 19 2019

A three point drop is typical for test day conditions. It's not necessarily nerves. Taking a test at 8:30 am, filling out scantrons for an 45 mins, etc has a negative effect.

Hopefully this is helpful, but just continue doing what you are doing. Certain principles and techniques drop in deeper over time even if you are doing the same thing. This is assuming weekly practice test, thorough BRing, Foolproofing, and taking maybe a day a week to drill "weaknesses."

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

I’m in the same boat. I decided to go for it, although it is painful. I would take June if I were you. You are still in game shape so 6 more weeks of studying shouldn’t kill you and it gives you one more shot at it. You can then use the summer to focus on applications and then apply early. Lastly it allows you to avoid learning the digital format. I vote take it again. And I vote for June.

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

Ultimate + if you want a great score and have the entire summer. Please don't try to skimp. I am a proud member of the 167+ club and I don't think that would have happened without the Ultimate +. As Guillame said, access to explanations for the most recent PT's are huge.

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