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Saturday, Jun 30 2018

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Handling Doubt

I am searching for some advice on handling doubt.

I am doing very well on PT's, average anywhere from 7-12 wrong per test. However, of the 100ish questions, I feel very confident about 80 of them, leaving 20% of the test I am not 100% sure of. And of those 20 questions I am unsure of, I get 50+% right.

So what I'm asking for is, is that just normal? Because most times I grade a test I am expecting the worst and mostly end up with 170+ PT's. It's just such a weird feeling to be doing well and yet not feeling as confident as I should be.

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Tuesday, Apr 30 2019

I have found test taking technique to primarily be the difference from high 160s to 170s. Learning to manage time (skipping) will make a lot of difference. Do you record your PT's or even sections.

Also, if you have a uGPA of 4.0 DO NOT early decision NYU. With a 170+ and a 4.0 you would get significant money from them that you would be forfeiting by applying early decision. Good luck!

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Monday, Apr 29 2019

$100,000+ difference is a lot. I don't think that is worth the difference in prestige

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Sunday, Apr 28 2019

Push through it. Every test will get a little less painful. Just keep doing them! There are 86 PT’s now, so maybe use older ones to get through the anxiety

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Thursday, Jun 27 2019

Wowwwwwww! Congrats!

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Thursday, Jun 27 2019

@ how’d you do?

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Thursday, Jun 27 2019

Why not retake? I feel like those percentages are wrong (even if lsac quotes them). Applying early for early decision I don’t think makes a difference. So I would take the sept or possibly oct (if the oct test will count towards Ed). If something is your dream, i would encourage you to take the steps to have more than just a 1/4 chance. Especially since you have time. Good luck!

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Friday, Jan 26 2018

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Emails from schools to apply?

I’m under the impression that schools emailing you to apply are doing so just to get there apps up, and therefore, have a lower admittance rate (although it’s obviously a business that needs attendees, too). I haven’t really given it much thought until I got an email from Harvard today. Any thoughts?

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Thursday, Apr 25 2019

@ thanks! Congrats to you too! You’re comments on reapplying really helped me a lot. What a difference waiting a cycle can make!

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Thursday, Apr 25 2019

UCI with $135,000 scholarship (what amounts to a 97% scholarship). Was rejected last cycle before I found 7sage. Thanks 7sage!

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Thursday, Oct 25 2018

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U Penn Law

Any thoughts on this school? It's obviously a amazing often clocking in at #7 in the USNWR rankings. I decided to apply here. I lived in NY for 11 years, and never met a person who went there. I half jokingly thought U Penn Law didn't exist, until a month ago when I had my first encounter with a real life U Penn recent graduate. Thanks a lot!

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Monday, Jun 25 2018

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Difference between 3 and 4 takes?

I took the past Dec and Feb test to squeeze into this past cycle. Did ok but knew I left so many points and law schools on the table.

I decided to retake the LSAT in July. I feel waaaay more prepared this time. However, because full refunds are offered to July takers who keep their scores, I decided to sign up for the Sept LSAT as insurance. It was only intended as insurance for if something weird happened on my July LSAT day, I'd have another option to take it and still apply early. If July went well, then I'd just cancel Sept and get a full refund (not just the $50).

But knowing even a difference of 2 extra points could have a huge impact of schools and financial aid, I'm now just thinking of taking it in regardless of what happens in July (although a 172 or higher I would cancel). This would mean taking it a 4th time vs. a 3rd time. However, at this point I don't think there is a real difference, especially if I could do better. Am I wrong to think this? Thanks.

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Friday, Feb 23 2018

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Bubbling Technique

I am about to switch to bubbling in groups. After each RC Passage, LG Game, and before I turn the page for LR. For some reason this scares me. For those who have switched, did you have this initial irrational (or maybe rational) fear? Was there an initial step backwards before you saw the gains? Did you see gains? And if so how much time do you think this saves? I will go into the laboratory (aka my desk) to see how it suits me, but I would love some thoughts too.

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Thursday, Feb 22 2018

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Step 0: Reading the Question Stem First

7Sage recommends reading the question stem first. I will start to play with this. However, in the Powerscore books they say DON"T read the question stem first and go on to give several pretty good reasons. I don't see where 7Sage gives it's cost benefits analysis/reasoning for why to read the question stem first. Am I missing where this is stated? And if not, any thoughts on why it is better to read the question stem first?

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Monday, Apr 22 2019

If you haven’t done the CC yet I’d go lower. Frankly if that is the score you want you might be retaking in oct/nov. bombing the first time is quite normal. Almost a right of passage. I would probably get ultimate plus if I were you and plan on taking sept and nov. good luck!

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Monday, Apr 22 2019

I have doing that if I took a fresh PT then retook that exact test I thoroughly BR’ed 3 months later, I will have remembered almost no questions. Because in that time i will have seen 1000’s of more questions. About similar topics, blood temperature, crime rates, genetic adaptations etc. You will be just fine.

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Tuesday, May 21 2019

Congrats, and see you at UC Irvine!

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Monday, May 21 2018

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Truly Unlimited Takes

Are takes essentially unlimited now in the sense your highest score matters? Some people have been questioning this, and I was one of those people. However, schools incentives are too look at the highest score. And since this is a test that one can get better at and also since someone's score is really a range, it seems that it would just make sense for them to take the highest score and move on. Thoughts?

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Monday, May 20 2019

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Waitlist Activity

I'd love to know progress from people on the waitlist, and to know what schools are starting to pull applicants off the waitlist.

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Saturday, Jan 20 2018

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Usc?

I went to Top undergrad known for having a tough curve. I double majored (math and Econ), am a urm. I have an exact 3.0 gpa. I took the lsat in dec and got a 160. I was pt-ing high at a 168/169 and just bombed that day. I’m retaking in feb. I spoke to the and they say taking the feb test significantly hurts my chances of admission. What min score would I need to overcome that? And are scholarships now not in play? Their avg is 165 and 75% is a 166.

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

Sept is fine if you can study 20 hours a week, and obviously in a productive/efficient way. I would probably get a tutor as well if you want to make those gains by Sept. Good luck!

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

Man did I forget the obvious. Thanks @ With a 4.0gpa you probably will get close to full rides at a lower T14 as it stands now with a 169. But if you can score a even 1 or 2 points higher, you might be able to get close to full rides at T10 schools. I know it sucks to retake. It is definitely draining. But the payoffs are soooo tremendous that I think pushing through it is important. Good luck on your decision!

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

A three point drop is typical for test day conditions. It's not necessarily nerves. Taking a test at 8:30 am, filling out scantrons for an 45 mins, etc has a negative effect.

Hopefully this is helpful, but just continue doing what you are doing. Certain principles and techniques drop in deeper over time even if you are doing the same thing. This is assuming weekly practice test, thorough BRing, Foolproofing, and taking maybe a day a week to drill "weaknesses."

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

I’m in the same boat. I decided to go for it, although it is painful. I would take June if I were you. You are still in game shape so 6 more weeks of studying shouldn’t kill you and it gives you one more shot at it. You can then use the summer to focus on applications and then apply early. Lastly it allows you to avoid learning the digital format. I vote take it again. And I vote for June.

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

Ultimate + if you want a great score and have the entire summer. Please don't try to skimp. I am a proud member of the 167+ club and I don't think that would have happened without the Ultimate +. As Guillame said, access to explanations for the most recent PT's are huge.

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Friday, Apr 19 2019

Congrats! You've added a whole lot to this site and I wish you the best!

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Wednesday, Jan 17 2018

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Timing?

To get a 170, do you think one should consistently finish all the questions in 30-32 mins? Which of course will allow some time to go back and double check answers that one is not 100% about. Should 170+ mastery allow for that? I’m trying to get my pacing down, and although I right at 35 mins for all the sections, I’m wondering if I should speed up a little.

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Wednesday, Oct 17 2018

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U Chicago

I’m thinking of applying to U Chicago. It’s a perennial top 5 law school. But I don’t know too much about it relative to the other T14’s. And I read mixed reviews. Any thoughts on this school’s reputation and what it’s known for?

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Friday, Aug 17 2018

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Taping Section

I forgot where I saw a clip of a taped section. After much resistance, I have decided to do it. Can anyone point me to where I can find a clip? Thanks!

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Thursday, May 16 2019

I would take it in a library. Or a coffee shop if you want to ramp up distractions. That should be fine. The vast majority of test taking situations will be captured by taking it in a library. And most of the remaining will be by coffee shops. Testing for the anomaly situations (2% or less) is probably not needed.

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Tuesday, Apr 16 2019

Wow! Very impressive. Much deserved. Congrats!

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Wednesday, May 16 2018

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Applying Early, and what does that mean

What is considered early? What is considered in the middle? And what's considered late? I used to think applying in Sept or Oct was vital, but how much of a difference is there when you apply after only 10% of the applications are in vs. 40-50%. I'm wondering because if I turned in my apps before my Nov 17 LSAT test date came out, meaning my file would be complete mid-Dec, would that still be an advantageous time to apply?

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Thursday, Mar 14 2019

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SIR/June LSAT

Does anyone know if you send in a signature of intent to registrar, but sign up for the June test to help with waitlists and scholarship negotiation, would that be a problem? I know schools have different policies, but I am imagining that signing up for the June test wouldn't be some violation or get an admittance retracted.

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Tuesday, Feb 13 2018

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Adding Pressure to PT's, so 30 min sections?

After taking the LSAT a few times, I feel like the self-imposed pressure of the real tests has caused me to rush during the test. I've had trouble simulating the actual nerves on the test. I'm too relaxed during PT's. Truthfully, that relaxation is what I'd like to achieve, since it has helped me score high PT's. And I'll think some more on that. However, I want to shake it up a little. I am thinking of trying all the section in 30 mins. Obviously, there is a point where this becomes absurd. How about 25 mins? How about 20? I'll play around with it, but any thoughts on how to ramp up the pressure in PT's so that it can feel closer to a real test?

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Sunday, May 12 2019

I would study 40+ hours a week if you truly have the summer off and MUST apply in Sept. I would also get a tutor once your done with the CC so that you are studying as efficiently and effectively as possible.

Also, it's so hard to do that well out the gate. You might want to set yourself up with an another test as well. Will NW take the Oct test for ED? I suspect they will.

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Tuesday, Jun 11 2019

Thanks! And good luck!

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Sunday, Feb 11 2018

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LSAT 4th Time

I cancelled once, got a 160, and feel like I probably got a low 160's on the Feb Test. I have had many PT's of 170 or higher. I'm now thinking of taking the Sept test and just working the next 6 months on the LSAT. It feels ridiculous to have taken the test 4 times. And I know without a doubt that if I practice for 6 more months, and in a more in depth not scrambling mode (took sept, dec, and now feb) I can at least go high 160's. But how would a school look at a C, 160, 162 (guess), and then let's say a 168. Would they just take the highest score. Would they be forced to average? Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

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Sunday, Feb 11 2018

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Feb Test Logic Games

I normally crush the LG section and I found it really hard. I couldn't get past a few inconsistencies (obviously on my end). But I would like to know just quick responses. Harder, typical, or easier than usual?

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Monday, Jun 10 2019

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Thank you! It's been a hell of a ride!

Dear 7Sage community,

As my account for the past 1.5 years is about to expire in an hour, I just want to say thank you for all the tips, encouragement, and wisdom. I applied last year, and got into a school in the mid 60's with no scholarship. This year I am going to a top 25 school with very, very close to a full ride. Wow what a difference applying earlier, with a much better score, and more fully flushed out apps does (basically a different applicant).

I could write all day about this. I kind of want to because I have learned so much in this journey that I would love to hand over this highly niched knowledge. But I will say this:

Just because you are a good person doesn't mean you are entitled to a good score. It must be earned. And in many people's cases, it took years. Some of my heroes on this website battled for 2 plus years to get their score, but it paid off BIG. I studied for almost a year and it paid off BIG for me. I was rejected from the school I will attend last year and this year they are rolling out the red carpet.

Your stories matter. Your humanity matters. But numbers matter most. If schools were to let in every great person or story, numbers at most schools would be down. So take the numbers component seriously. And if you have great essays or stories, that will definitely help. But get those numbers! I promise you, they are not playing around.

Do everything JY says. Obviously test what he says out. But he doesn't say things randomly with no thought (or at least not when it comes to the LSAT).

Take practice tests with 5 (or I recommend 6 sections). It drives me crazy when people are willing to do everything under the sun to prepare, but when it comes to PT, they take 4 sections. Then people say "the energy of test day will give you that extra boost." Ok, maybe it does. But aren't we trying to simulate test conditions as best as possibly. 5 sections are different than 4. And practice with 5 then get the additional "energy boost." I promise you, it helped me out.

The main difference between a 167 and a 172 is most likely test taking strategy. Of course better fundamentals helps, but at this point it's strategy.

Practice reading comprehension. Most people believe this is the hardest section to improve. That is because most people don't like to practice this section. LR is fun and you can do you a few questions at a time. I found LG fun. I hated RC, practiced it the least, and improved upon it the least. Practice it!

Don't be afraid to postpone a year. It was one of the most painful decisions of my life. It doesn't matter where you are in your life. But it was one of the best decisions I have ever made.

Sorry, but if you are just starting you LSAT prep, it's probably best to postpone a year. By the time you take your first real test, you will most likely realize you can do waaaaay better and it's too late (plus you have to start writing essays). Don't be afraid to wait a year (please refer to #7).

It's important to be able to break this test down. So taking your first PT in month 3 then retaking at month 5 looks very different than taking your first test in month 5. As you get close to test day, getting results are more important. So settling for cheap tricks versus really digging deep happens. So you can end up taking 3 tests in 6 months and very really studied in depth. Then you can become burned out after test 3 and then the real pressure happens. Wow, I have studied for 6 months and keep not improving. Is this for me? If i take it again I REALLY must do well! Don't do this to yourself. If after the second take you don't see big gains, take a year off and really go deep.

Get a tutor. Take all the pain and suffering that they had to go through and learn from it.

You don't only need big chunks of time to study. 20 mins here and there (in addition to the necessary big chunks of time) can really help and add up.

This test is a snapshot of where you on a highly specific set of skills right now only. It doesn't define you. But as you study for this test one can reduce their value to how well they did on their most recent PT. Don't get to high or too low on this. Study. Learn. And move on.

There are a million more things to say but I can't think of them. But for those in the deep dark jungle of LSAT study, I would come across the occasional 7Sage "Thank you" message and wondered if I were every going to be able to write one. I am. Thank you 7Sage! And best of luck to all of you who are studying! It is worth it. It pays off. It might take a little more time than you thought, but have faith!

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Wednesday, May 09 2018

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Admissions consulting. Worth it?

I am very reluctantly considering paying for a admissions consulting company's help. I think $3000+ is insane. However, if I could get $3000 more in scholarships and/or get into a more desirable school I think it is worth it. Any thoughts? Have any of you paid for a service? And if so, what are your thoughts?

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Thursday, Jun 06 2019

Nothing. No speeding it up. Just making them like you and think of you whenever they do get to waitlists. Or whenever they do get to the waitlist and are in a position to take a “who do we like” person vs. if they are targeting something specific that you aren’t.

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Thursday, Jul 05 2018

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Test Day Strategy

Do you look at all the answer choices if you know you are 100% certain on an answer choice before getting to E? There are many LR questions that I know are 100% right at choices A, B, or C (if I get to answer D I will go to E regardless, even if it goes against what this question is asking). I was thinking of just circling these questions and going back to them if I have time. Any thoughts would be much appreciated it.

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Saturday, May 04 2019

How often do you practice RC? I find it’s waaaay easier to practice LG and LR. It might be the case where you just have to do it more.

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Tuesday, Apr 03 2018

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Going Local First on Logic Games

How have those who have gone for local questions first in Logic Games found that strategy? I am about to try it out, however, I feel like the act of looking for them might cause a scattered feeling which might have a negative affect. And do you think the time it takes to hunt the local questions is worth it?

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Thursday, May 02 2019

@ What did you decide?

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Sunday, Dec 01 2019

i took it like 5 times. not a problem. got close to a full scholarship. no one really cared.

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