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dhisais52
Friday, Apr 30 2021

I'm in a very similar situation. I have a 174, but was pting an average of 176.4 with several 179s. Ultimately, I don't think I'm going to retake the test. Instead, I'm going to focus on writing the best personal statements I can.

As far as retaking goes, I've heard three T-14 deans say that they would question someone's judgment for retaking a 173+ score. Even Mike Spivey (law admissions consultant) said something similar.

In the end, it's up to you. But realistically, unless you're aiming for Harvard/Yale, you're going to be at or above the median for EVERY law school next year. I don't think a higher LSAT score is going to help you get in anywhere.

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dhisais52
Monday, Oct 26 2020

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Hey! If you decide to delay, I would probably base the decision on yourself and whether you think you can get the strongest application ready in time for this cycle.

Thanks for the comment... I think I was just getting really fixated on the idea of applying this year. But you're right, I should definitely just wait to apply with a stronger application.

Sincerely, thank you very much for talking some reason into me!

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dhisais52
Monday, Oct 26 2020

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These are interesting stats. Where did you hear them?

Apologies, I didn't proofread my post well enough. The stats are from this source: https://report.lsac.org/VolumeSummary.aspx

I accidentally inserted State-level figures, not national figures (I've deleted the error). That said, the national figures tell the same story—more applicants with higher lsat scores this year.

In any case, I've decided that I will probably just wait to apply next year.

Hello all!

I am trying to decide whether to apply this year or next year. I'm hoping for some feedback.

Considerations for Applying Next Year:

The main reason that I'm thinking about applying next year is that I would have to RUSH to get everything done to submit this year. Although I'm currently PTing around 165, I won't be taking my first LSAT until November. Realistically, I won't be able to get my applications submitted until mid-December. With that in mind, part of me wants to just wait and apply early next year with an application that I spent more time on.

HOWEVER...

I'm really worried that next year will be even more competitive than this year.

According to this Data from LSAC https://report.lsac.org/VolumeSummary.aspx applications are up 50.7% this year compared to last year. On top of that, it seems that the number of applicants scoring in the 165+ range is WAY up. I'm worried that if I wait another year, the competition will be much greater.

Anyway, I apologize if this is somewhat of a rant. Ultimately, I am really interested in what you guys think and would greatly appreciate any feedback.

P.S. Congrats to everyone who hit their target scores in October!

Hello All!

I've been working on my statements for the next cycle (2021-2022). I think I have a decent 2-page rough draft for a PS, but I would love to get feedback on it. I'm not that concerned about my grammar/spelling. Rather, I want to make sure that the tone and content are persuasive.

Of course, I'm totally willing to read your PS statement in return!

So if you're interested, just PM me with your email and I'll send it over (and send your PS too if you want me to look at it).

In case it matters, my stats are 3.9X and 17low.

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dhisais52
Wednesday, Oct 21 2020

I'm in a very similar situation to you! My GPA is 4.2 and I'm taking my first LSAT in November (my PT average is 164.4).

Ann Levine just published a short blog in which she predicts that this is going to be an incredibly competitive cycle. Current applications are up 52.7% compared to just last year!

Personally, I think I'm only going to apply to my dream schools this year. If I don't get in, I'll re-apply next year along with applying to some back-up schools.

In case anyone is interested, here are the stats I referenced.

https://report.lsac.org/VolumeSummary.aspx?Format=PDF

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dhisais52
Sunday, Jun 21 2020

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I think speed normally comes with practice.

Thanks for the feedback BeastMode! I'll keep what you said in mind.

Hello all! I’m having trouble bringing my timed score up to my BR score. Based on my scores and studying history, how do you guys think I should continue to study in order to bring my scores up?

Studying Background:

I scored 152 on my diagnostic on May 1st. Since May, I’ve completed the LSAT Trainer and the LG Curriculum from 7Sage.

The Problem:

Today, I took my first PT since the diagnostic and only scored 157. I think the problem is that I'm too slow. In literally every section, I run out of time around question 20 and am forced to quickly guess on the last few.

For context, I was only able to complete 3 games and it takes me about 4 minutes to read a passage in RC.

The reason that I think this is a “timing” issue instead of an “understanding” issue is that I have 85% accuracy on the questions that I do answer and because my Blind Review is solid (178). I only spend about 30 minutes on the Blind Review, so it’s not as if I spend all day to bring the score up to 178.

My Questions:

Based on my studying background and the problems I seem to be having during the exam, what would you guys recommend I do to bring my score up?

Is my problem a timing issue that can simply be resolved with more PTing? Or does my low score suggest a fundamental lack of understanding? Should I be doing multiple timed PTs a week or continue to focus on fundamentals?

As you can tell, I am at a loss and would appreciate any help.

Sincerely,

A fellow LSATer.

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dhisais52
Wednesday, Jan 13 2021

I was afraid of losing time during the scan process. So instead of asking for a bathroom break between sections, I just kept an empty bucket underneath my desk. As long as you don't miss and p!ss on the floor (which I accidentally did during a practice PT), then you should be good.

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dhisais52
Thursday, Mar 11 2021

Ehh... Honestly, I just wouldn't do it. Just learn the rules in advance and don't worry about reading them on test day. Seriously, you should reserve every single ounce of mental energy on the actual test, not its rules.

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dhisais52
Tuesday, Feb 09 2021

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I will point out that it is not possible for a strictly curved test to have higher scores than another with an identical curve regardless of whether the test is longer or shorter with more variability or less. It doesn't even matter if it is easier, it is a curve. The only logical explanation is that there are more people taking more tests. That or they decided to completely destroy the validity of the LSAT for no reason.

Hey Verdant, I actually think you might be mistaken. From what I understand, the test is NOT "curved." Rather, it is "equated" in advance of anyone actually taking a specific test, which is to say that LSAC creates a scale for anticipated scores in order to approximately achieve a bell curve. The key word here is "approximately.* Since the test isn't curved, but equated, it is actually possible to have a test administration with a distribution of scores that does not fit a bell curve.

In other words. If the test were curved, then there would be a distribution of scores resembling a "bell curve" for every test administration. But because it is equated, the distribution of scores will not necessarily resemble an ideal bell curve every administration. In fact, since it is equated, you could have test administrations in which there are a disproportionate number of 170+ scorers. From what I understand, that is what is happening this year.

If I'm wrong about any of this, then please correct me.

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dhisais52
Monday, Feb 08 2021

Thank you in advance to everyone who contributes to this poll!

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Wednesday, May 06 2020

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Score Associated with Correct Answer Choice

When reviewing a question in 7Sage, we are told what percent of people selected each answer choice for a problem. E.g. "92% selected AC 'B'"

My question is: What is the LSAT score that hovers above each answer choice?

Is that the average score of the person who selected a given answer?

Hello All!

I am considering applying for accommodations based on severe panic attacks that I often get while testing (in addition to other situations). I have a few questions regarding the requirements:

Question 1: Do I need an official diagnosis?

My primary doctor has been treating my condition. She understands that I have General Anxiety and panic attacks, but she has never given me an official diagnosis. Instead, she just keeps refilling/monitoring my two prescriptions—one for the general anxiety and one for the acute panic attacks.

Do you think that I could get accommodations without a diagnosis based on a letter from my primary doctor supporting my request? Or, is an official diagnosis necessary?

If it helps, I also have a therapist who has been treating me and she has agreed to write a letter on my behalf.

Question 2: Is a diagnosis from a Psychiatrist better than a diagnosis from a Psychologist?

If I do end up needing an official diagnosis, does it matter whether I have one from a Psychologist VS a Psychiatrist? Do you think that either of them might be seen as more authoritative?

Thank you all in advance for any input!

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